Somali man shot dead in Toronto

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There were people in the apartment when he died. You're right; Somalis don't talk.

A few years ago a Somali was killed in a shisha spot in Edmonton, filled with dozens of Somalis. His murder is still not yet solved after about 5 years. They don't even know how the killer looks like. The police said the Somali community was uncooperative and said they'll close the file and Somali community leaders cried racism and demanded an apology.

Now that I think of it; of the 100 Somalis murdered in the past 10 years in Alberta, maybe less than 5 were solved.

It's far, far worse now than before sxb. You can be shot and killed for practically no reason these days. These kids aren't anything like dudes in my age group. Back then you only used to hear about people dropping over gang politics. These days, be at the wrong place and the wrong time and not known by those around, and you're an "opp" and thus a target. Even the fobs/qaxootis are getting stuck up these days. All of these kids have lost their minds and are on some kind of combination of mollies, xanax, pain medication, and alcohol all of the time. You aren't dealing with people who even understand the consequences of their actions anymore or even care about it to begin with.


But the community will say its the government and police's fault that this is happening. Or outright deny it and claim their son is a good boy who is not involved with any crime and attends university. :francis:
 

Kanye

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My condolences to the family and the people that know him on here.

But, @AbdiJohnson do you have any stats on Somali murders and violence on the U.S and Canada? It's hard to get stats as Somalis are put as Black in the stats here in the U.S. I wonder if Somalis are killed more often in Canada than the U.S, even though our Somali population is larger.
Afaik, Canada has the largest Somali population outside Africa. Followed by the UK, and then America I think. Also I'm pretty sure Canada has more Somali-on-Somali crime. Can't recall the last time I heard of someone getting killed in Minnesota or wherever. Then again, American homicide rates might've drowned them out.
 

OmarLittle

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Afaik, Canada has the largest Somali population outside Africa. Followed by the UK, and then America I think. Also I'm pretty sure Canada has more Somali-on-Somali crime. Can't recall the last time I heard of someone getting killed in Minnesota or wherever. Then again, American homicide rates might've drowned them out.
The official Somali population in the U.S is 145,000 - what is it in Canada?
 
My condolences to the family and the people that know him on here.

But, @AbdiJohnson do you have any stats on Somali murders and violence on the U.S and Canada? It's hard to get stats as Somalis are put as Black in the stats here in the U.S. I wonder if Somalis are killed more often in Canada than the U.S, even though our Somali population is larger.

I'm clueless about America. It would be harder to know there since that country is massive and Somalis are more spread out in random cities and towns.

When we hit 2017, I will do an analysis on Somali murders for 2016 in Canada.

I don't think the cops here identify the murdered by race or ethnicity, the media does.
 

OmarLittle

Not your typical Farah
I'm clueless about America. It would be harder to know there since that country is massive and Somalis are more spread out in random cities and towns.

When we hit 2017, I will do an analysis on Somali murders for 2016 in Canada.

I don't think the cops here identify the murdered by race or ethnicity, the media does.
I tired myself, it's difficult to get direct sources from the government, the FBI doesn't collect anything outside terrorist related. What's the latest Somali-Canadian population according to census?
 
So they have the same "no snitch" code as in the black ghettos?

Yup

It's far, far worse now than before sxb. You can be shot and killed for practically no reason these days. These kids aren't anything like dudes in my age group. Back then you only used to hear about people dropping over gang politics. These days, be at the wrong place and the wrong time and not known by those around, and you're an "opp" and thus a target. Even the fobs/qaxootis are getting stuck up these days. All of these kids have lost their minds and are on some kind of combination of mollies, xanax, pain medication, and alcohol all of the time. You aren't dealing with people who even understand the consequences of their actions anymore or even care about it to begin with.


But the community will say its the government and police's fault that this is happening. Or outright deny it and claim their son is a good boy who is not involved with any crime and attends university. :francis:

One murder this year was simply because a guy was speaking to his sister at a club. The sister was from a clan that does not intermarry other clans. Murderer was in his 40s.
 
I'm telling you, every single one of those killers are known by the community. They boast about who they fatally karbashed. It's openly talked about and everyone knows what Farah or Abdi did and why they did it. Somalis are very good in keeping secrets or there are reprisals.

There are quite a few walking around freely who at least are responsible for 5+ murders and brag about it to the point they are looking for their next victim. They have learned there are no consequences for their actions and know they can continue on and get away with it. You see how quick they found the killers of that Baltimore man? That should tell you something.
 
@OmarLittle

The census says we are 44,900 in 2011

http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm/...ins&SearchPR=01&A1=All&B1=All&Custom=&TABID=1

But here is the former Foreign Minister saying we are over 300,000 in 2013

I think it would be certainly be a goal and objective of mine in the coming years to see the Canadian flag flying over Mogadishu. I think one of the ties that bind us are the 300,000 plus Canadians of Somali descent,” said Baird.

Both numbers are incorrect. It's around 150-200K

The correct information we can gather is that Somalis are breaking the law by not filling out the census. But I just did the census a few months ago and they did not ask me for my ethnicity.

Who knows our true numbers.
 

OmarLittle

Not your typical Farah
@OmarLittle

The census says we are 44,900 in 2011

http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm/...ins&SearchPR=01&A1=All&B1=All&Custom=&TABID=1

But here is the former Foreign Minister saying we are over 300,000



Both numbers are incorrect. It's around 200K

The correct information we can gather is that Somalis are breaking the law by not filling out the census. But I just did the census a few months ago and they did not ask me for my ethnicity.

Who knows our true numbers.

Yeah, that's what I saw. So I guess for now, we got the larger population @Kanye. But, according to that data, their are 2,000+ Somali females in Canada, I guess less competition for the dudes :siilaanyolaugh:
 

Kanye

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The official Somali population in the U.S is 145,000 - what is it in Canada?
It's consistently 150k+ in Canada, likely 200k+. I'm shocked there are 145,000 Somalis in the U.S. though. There are 125k in the UK supposedly but other sources estimate as much as 200k. There are several factors at play over here though. I'm not sure whether they're counting Somali-born, British-born and European Somalis as one. I think the order is still Canada > Britain > the U.S.
 
80,000 in North Etobicoke. z3zrULC

No wonder it looks like such a rundown part of the city. I bet you most of the other 20,000 are @merka and his Somalilanders living at those buildings on Brimley Rd. :lolbron:
 
According to the 2011 National Household Survey, 44,995 people in Canada reported Somali ancestry. Of those, 37,115 were Somali language speakers and 4,315 were recent immigrants.

I think they only counted those born in Somalia. Those under 30 can't speak Somali and they make up the majority of Somalis
 

Kanye

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OK it seems that the number is Somali language speakers, not background
I don't think you're going to find a solid number. I'm not sure what it's like over in Canada but in the UK there are loads of non-Somali Africans registered as Somalis to make their asylum process easier.
 

Kanye

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I think they only counted those born in Somalia. Those under 30 can't speak Somali.
99% sure language is counted by household. So anyone underage is thrown in with their parents as 'Somali-speakers'.
 
AUN. 2 Somalis shot dead within a week. :jcoleno:

80,000 in North Etobicoke. z3zrULC

No wonder it looks like such a rundown part of the city. I bet you most of the other 20,000 are @merka and his Somalilanders living at those buildings on Brimley Rd. :lolbron:
I moved out of that place years ago. I had some great childhood memories though.
 
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