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[The Ash'ari]

You exposed yourself don't ever let me catch you speaking on Ogadenia or Dirr Dhabe ever again you qaashin.


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Ogadenia haa nolato

Dire Dawa belongs to me. Not one Ogadenian lives there.

Walahi, nobody likes them in Dire Dawa.

 

[ሕጊ።።]

A Ghanaian can never be that beautiful. It's haram.

Congratulations brother. Your very lucky you have such beautiful women Mash'Allah.

Canuck will make up any lie on the spot, this time it's this

 

[Assata]

Dirr Dhabe belongs to me. Not one Ogadenian lives there.

Walahi, nobody likes them in Dirr Dhabe.

Dirr Dhabe belongs to me and the rest of my Somali people.

Move to Addis Ababa.

 

[Bahal]

Damn, reading that thread made me realize I used to write a lot better back in the day

 

[Abdalla]

@dhegdheer became a full flegded qabiliste after @Duke of Bohol became a mod. I thought waraabe would be first to be triggered

 

[The Ash'ari]

Canuck will make up any lie on the spot, this time it's this

Ignore them, they are trolls. They are trying to provoke you. But you have done a good job so far.

Imagine, you haven't said one bad word about us Somalis, yet they've attacked you from left to right. Yet you stayed calm.

 

[Ferrari]

Whose bootyclapping for the Ethiopian government?

I can hate the government without hating the people.

I wasn't talking about you. you like to fight don't ya? You probably picked up that shaniqua character from attending so many blm rallies didn't you?


anyways, yes we shouldn't hate them but majority of them support their regime which makes them accessories to the crimes their regime commits. Now I wouldn't say let's hate them, but I'd consider each and everyone of them to be a supporter of the regime until they prove me wrong, then they can come of the list.

 

[Bahal]

I wasn't talking about you. you like to fight don't ya? You probably picked up that shaniqua character from attending so many blm rallies didn't you?

Ka daa

 

[Bohol]

@dhegdheer became a full flegded qabiliste after @Duke of Bohol became a mod. I thought waraabe would be first to be triggered

That is not the reason she is angry with me (since we both belong to the same klan). It is her feminist side.

 

[Ferrari]

Ka daa

i am joking with her and she knows it lol.
btw, I couldnt believe it when you said you were based because how you write on here.

 

[Abdalla]

That is not the reason she is angry with me (since we both belong to the same klan). It is her feminist side.

That explains why she never went after HY, instead she attacked miskeen ogadeens

 

[The Ash'ari]

Waad ni ceebeyseen si xun. Kulligiin nacalaa baad tihiin. Aniga oo gabdhaha xabishayadda jecel baad ninkii maanta Ilaahey ii keeney baad sidaad ogeyd u la hadasheen.

Qashin soomali rajo adduun kasta beey xumeyaan

 

[dhegdheer]

I didn't take it personal at all. I kept admitting and agreeing with you for the past two hours that we have coons like those who sold our seas and those who led AMISOM and kenya and Ethiopia into our lands. You couldn't admit that fact that Ethiopia is not blameless in the bigger picture. That's all I have been trying to say. How is that so hard for you?
Also, the way you think about the whole thing is a mess. If a community of us or a somali qabiil is subdued and their lands are stolen, you better believe the rest of us are going to meet the same fate some day. We are very small in number, so it doesn't help that we think like that. Now I don't really care for a somali unity, I'd like it but it isnt necessary. As long as we support each other and help each other, and keep somali lands in the hand of somalis and under the leadership of somalis, I am happy.

I can separate people from regimes, I was being sarcastic with the Ethiopian guy initially.

But I was agreeing with u too are we having two different bloody conversations nacala

I know Ethiopia benefits from a weakened Somalia and seeks to push their agenda further by medling with our affairs, no where did I absolve them of anything

Just because I don't insult them in every single post of mine and call them meat eaters doesn't mean I can admit they have their issues it's always all or nothing with you guys, it's frustrating lmao

I'm all for a united Somali even though I thinks it's a pipe dream at best, it's maddening when I see xoolo like @Duke of Bohol bringing up supposed genetic differences or whatever to further separate us.

Just because I have no intention of ever living there doesn't mean I want the place to burn up and vanish I'm not that xaasid

@dhegdheer became a full flegded qabiliste after @Duke of Bohol became a mod. I thought waraabe would be first to be triggered

Honestly, I think I should retire my short lived career as a troll it's not as fun as I thought it would be

 

[Rooble]

@The Ash'ari is probably fake Gurgura, but Gurgura and Isse are rightful owners of Dire Dawa.

 

[Galaeri]

I don't know if you guys remember that one communique from the Ethiopian Foreign Ministry that was later taken down after we posted it on somnet but to all those naysayers, here's the truth from the horse's mouth:

Ethiopia, for its part, rather than responding to the threat by respecting the right of Ethiopian Somalis and by fostering brotherhood between the peoples of Ethiopia, so Ethiopian Somalis could live in voluntary unity with their other fellow Ethiopians, resorted to dismantling Somalia to the extent possible. The policy was to respond to Somali aggression by taking the war to Somalia and, along the way, aggravating the contradiction between the Somali clans.

The situation has now fundamentally changed. The "Greater Somalia" ideology has been discredited. It is now over ten years since Somalia has become stateless. On the other hand, in Ethiopia, a constitution in which peoples' rights are guaranteed is being implemented. Ethiopian Somalis are living in brotherhood and voluntary unity with other Ethiopians in a newly defined, inclusive Ethiopian identity. Together with other Ethiopians, Ethio-Somalis are, in the spirit of equality, democracy, development and an Ethiopian identity, resting on strong foundations and contributing to the building of the country. Ethiopia's vulnerability to the "Greater Somalia" ideology has been greatly diminished .

Significance of the relations

There is no condition whereby Somalia could contribute as a source of investment and financial development or as a significant market for Ethiopia. After a process of some length, followed by peace and stability in Somalia, there is the chance that it could become a significant market, but this is difficult to imagine in the short and medium term. Regarding natural resources, all the big rivers in Somalia flow from Ethiopia. The irrigation schemes in Somalia which effectively served the people are in a poor state. On the other hand, as our country steps up its development, we will have to dam the rivers for irrigation purposes. The harnessing of rivers in Ethiopia can help Somalia resist floods, and so the benefit would be mutual. But on the other hand, these rivers could be used in Ethiopia - mainly in the Somali region - for development purposes. This could create a minor conflict but the problem can be tackled by the principle of give and take in a way that takes into account the national interests of the two countries.

As can be understood from the above, in the short and medium terms, Somalia does not have a positive or negative influence of note in the development of our country. And yet, in Somalia there are numerous ports that can provide services to Ethiopia. Starting from the port of Zeila which gave services to Ethiopia during its long history, all the way to Kismayo, there are no less than seven ports in Somalia that can be used by different parts of our country. These possibilities could significantly contribute to our development, but due to the "Greater Somalia"-driven conflict and national oppression in Ethiopia, they were never seriously considered (not to forget that Ethiopia had ports of its own). The current collapse of the state in Somalia makes it unrealistic to think of using the ports at the present time.

Even if the chances to use the ports were to arise, and though that would increase Somalia's relevance to our development, one cannot see a positive role that Somalia can play at this time. On the negative side, it is worth noting that the disintegration of Somalia has posed dangers for peace and stability in Ethiopia. This situation has spoilt the image of our sub-region, and the Horn is now perceived as an area of conflict. Our chances to attract investment have been reduced and the "Somalia effect" has contributed to the uncertainty about regional peace and the lack of economic linkages between the two countries.

Policy Direction

Our proximity to Somalia would be beneficial to our development if there were peace and stability in Somalia. Peace can come to our region if a government committed to fighting disorder, terrorism and extremism in cooperation with its neighbours is established in Somalia.Some circles say that the establishment of such a government in Somalia would once again resuscitate the ideology of "Greater Somalia" and that peace, democracy and development in Somalia would, in that case, not benefit Ethiopia. This view is fundamentally wrong and dangerous. First, of all, from now onwards, our country safeguards the unity of its peoples not by denying them options but by helping them recognise and confirm in practice, the option based on equality, mutual development and democracy.

Although the international community wishes to bring about peace in Somalia, it is evidently not ready to exert all its efforts to realise this. Thus, it appears to us that the condition of instability in Somalia is likely to persist for some time. Therefore, our policy should not be limited to contributing to the emergence of peace and democracy only and, based on that, to forging strong ties; rather, it should also address what we should do if instability and turmoil persist.

Our fundamental policy remains to persistently work towards the birth of a peaceful and democratic Somalia. But in light of the continuing instability, the policy we pursue should essentially be a damage-limitation policy to ensure that the instability does not further harm our country, the region and the people of Somalia. If the instability is not stopped, the only option left is to limit the damage that may be caused. There are three main options to limit the damage.

First, we have to try to help those regions which are comparatively stable and do not shelter extremists and terrorists in order that the relative peace they enjoy is maintained and even strengthened. Those that can be mentioned in this regard are the regions known as Somaliland and Puntland. In the spirit of damage limitation and to assist these regions maintain their stability, it is necessary that the links be strengthened in such areas as trade, transport and the like in the interest of our country and the people inhabiting the region. The question could be raised regarding the recognition of Somaliland as an independent state. Taking this initiative is not preferable to Ethiopia because it would create negative feelings on the part of Somalis living in the rest of Somalia and others would be suspicious of our intent. Therefore, our cooperation with these regions should not include recognizing the regional administrations as independent states. But we should continue to assist these regions in maintaining peace and stability, as it is to our advantage and the benefit of the peoples living in the area.

Secondly, we shall certainly continue to be exposed to various dangers as long as peace and stability elude Somalia as a whole. In recognition of this, we must create the capability to defend ourselves and foil any attack by forces of extremism, terrorism and other anti-peace elements originating in Somalia. In this regard we must always be vigilant.

Thirdly, we have to work in cooperation with the Somali people in the region, and the international community as a whole, to weaken and neutralize those forces coming from any part of Somalia to perpetrate attacks against our country. Obviously, the solution to all of this is the prevalence of democracy, and everything must be done to assist in reaching this solution. At the same time, however, we need to receive the understanding and support of the people of Somalia and the international community regarding what we are facing. While maintaining the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of Somalia, we have to ensure our right to safeguard our peace and defend ourselves.

They even referred to Somali Galbeed Somalis as Ethio-Somalis.


SomaliWeyne is dead.

 

[dhegdheer]

That is not the reason she is angry with me (since we both belong to the same klan). It is her feminist side.

You think I care about you because we come from the same clan huh

I'd take any ogaden, hawiye, darods anyday over you I don't give preferential treatment to people from my own sub clan let alone some next branch lmao

 

[Assata]

@The Ash'ari is probably fake Gurgura, but Gurgura and Isse are rightful owners of Dire Dawa.

Those are alternative facts.

Dirr Dhabe belongs to us the Somali people.

There's plenty of room for him in Addis Ababa and the regions surrounding Ogadenia.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

They even referred to Somali Galbeed Somalis as Ethio-Somalis.


SomaliWeyne is dead.

No it doesn't it live in all patriots, you saw the celebration from Mogadishu to Garissa and also privatly in Jiga Jiga

 

[Rooble]

Those are alternative facts.

Dirr Dhabe belongs to us the Somali people.

There's plenty of room for him in Addis Ababa and the regions surrounding Ogadenia.

Waa maxay Somalian people? Ma cunto baa?

 

[The Ash'ari]

Those are alternative facts.

Dirr Dhabe belongs to us the Somali people.

There's plenty of room for him in Addis Ababa and the regions surrounding Ogadenia.

Tell that to my clan who control half of Dire Dawa