Somali politics is a dead end

[bluebird]

I'm getting kind of tired of the optimistic news every few months cause in the end its the same story -_- the only real hope for somalia is abandoning this colonial ship going back clan networks lol. I hope everyone comes to their senses, the somali government can't protect them from harm or hunger

 

[Abdalla]

And what's your gobol?

In order to follow Somali politics you need to have a tough skin. You shouldn't be distracted by the fads or be disheartened by the L's. Nor feel victorious by the wins and enthusiasm, because they are always short lived. Somali politics is like a long distance marathon, it needs a long term commitment.

 

[Apollo]

Only fobs and/or old people follow Somali political news.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

I'm getting kind of tired of the optimistic news every few months cause in the end its the same story -_- the only real hope for somalia is abandoning this colonial ship going back clan networks lol. I hope everyone comes to their senses, the somali government can't protect them from harm or hunger

I've come to the realisation that everybody should develop their gobol. Its the best way forward. Care about your lands.

Federalism ftw.

 

[bluebird]

And what's your gobol?

In order to follow Somali politics you need to have a tough skin. You shouldn't be distracted by the fads or be disheartened by the L's. Nor feel victorious by the wins and enthusiasm, because they are always short lived. Somali politics is like a long distance marathon, it needs a long term commitment.

When I say politics I mean any political aspect of saving somalia is a dead end. The only thing that will save it now is business initiative, helping the locals start businesses to bring jobs and order to the community and clan elders/ militias can take care of the law enforcement. The somali government is useless

 

[bluebird]

I've come to the realisation that everybody should develop their gobol. Its the best way forward. Care about your lands.

Federalism ftw.

Me too. But federalism is just a smaller step on the scale. Qabilism is the only way forward

 

[Somali Legend]

I'm getting kind of tired of the optimistic news every few months cause in the end its the same story -_- the only real hope for somalia is abandoning this colonial ship going back clan networks lol. I hope everyone comes to their senses, the somali government can't protect them from harm or hunger

Clannism will never end in Somalia. As a matter of fact every African Nation practices clannism. Somalis just take it to an extreme.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

I've come to the realisation that everybody should develop their gobol. Its the best way forward. Care about your lands.

Federalism ftw.

Nice, i see u have graduated from Puntland state university : larry the puntite school of concentrate on ur gobol.

I was getting tired of muh qabil bs

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Nice, i see u have graduated from University of nugaal: larry the puntite school of concentrate on ur gobol.

I was getting tired of muh qabil bs

Well, lets just say those days are long gone.

 

[bluebird]

Clannism will never end in Somalia. As a matter of fact every African Nation practices clannism. Somalis just take it to an extreme.

Clannism is good. It was ending it and forcing everyone under one blue banner that caused all our problems.

 

[bluebird]

Nice, i see u have graduated from Puntland state university : larry the puntite school of concentrate on ur gobol.

I was getting tired of muh qabil bs

Larry is a smart man. The private sector and focusing on your gobol is really the only solution

I don't understand why somalis waste years discussing qashin dead end politics that won't solve the hunger problem or unemployment any time soon

 

[RasCanjero-]

If you go the clan route you'll end up with subclans squabbling over the same thing larger clans are on the national scale.

Doesn't matter who governs if there is no rule of law.

Today's agreements might be overruled by a competing subclan tomorrow but in a Gobol system you can't take them to a federal court.

 

[bluebird]

If you go the clan route you'll end up with subclans squabbling over the same thing larger clans are on the national scale.

Doesn't matter who governs if there is no rule of law.

Today's agreements might be overruled by a competing subclan tomorrow but in a Gobol system you can't take them to a federal court.

Clan fighting is overblown. reason why is so bad now is because the government causes so much tension, add to that the host of problems from hunger, to illiteracy to getting airstrikes from every which way attacking your city. It's no wonder that would happen. But do you think they would be quick to risk their safety over petty disputes that can be resolved if they weren't already in a constant state of misery? The only reason they do now is because there is no peace

 

[RasCanjero-]

Clan fighting is overblown. reason why is so bad now is because the government causes so much tension, add to that the host of problems from hunger, to illiteracy to getting airstrikes from every which way attacking your city. It's no wonder that would happen. But do you think they would be quick to risk their safety over petty disputes that can be resolved if they weren't already in a constant state of misery? The only reason they do now is because there is no peace

I didn't mean all out clan wars but political obstructions and subtle business sabotage like they do in the Galbeed.

The port in Puntland is a good example... one group of clan elders though they weren't eating as well as the other group so they decided to shut the place down.

This will keep on happening unless you run on a rule based system instead of thinking you'll live in kumbaya in a clan based system.

Just look how far that got us in the past millennium... Anyone that wanted to start a kingdom was over run by other clans within decades.

 

[bluebird]

I didn't mean all out clan wars but political obstructions and subtle business sabotage like they do in the Galbeed.

The port in Puntland is a good example... one group of clan elders though they weren't eating as well as the other group so they decided to shut the place down.

This will keep on happening unless you run on a rule based system instead of thinking you'll live in kumbaya in a clan based system.

Just look how far that got us in the past millennium... Anyone that wanted to start a kingdom was over run by other clans within decades.

True, but it's at least better then what we have now which is essentially anarchy + getting colonized

 

[Mercury]

Banning khat or just putting an High tax on it is good step

 

[Ferrari]

Somali politics is a circus show with clown maamul leaders putting on shows.
ideally, breaking into little qabiil towns will make us weak and easy to rule, not that we are doing that good today. No matter how shitty we look trying to run a country with these misfit odayaals in charge, it's still better than clan networks. waxaan maqli jiray ceebtaada kun baa maqashay koow looguma daro. just because we are a mess and the future looks bleak doesn't mean we should surrender and give up. I'd rather we are forced into that position rather than making it easy for those who want that for us.

with that said, somali politics will make u pessimistic.

 

[emptyheartsflow]

It's been dead ever since they ran out all the intellectuals from the country. It's a cultural problem, not political. The culture is qabilistic, anti-intellectual and that means there's not a competent person in sight. Also these odayaal are only focused on exploiting the vulnerabilities of the country.

Somalia is one of the few places where it's worse to be an intellectual than a leper probably.

 

[bluebird]

Somali politics is a circus show with clown maamul leaders putting on shows.
ideally, breaking into little qabiil towns will make us weak and easy to rule, not that we are doing that good today. No matter how shitty we look trying to run a country with these misfit odayaals in charge, it's still better than clan networks. waxaan maqli jiray ceebtaada kun baa maqashay koow looguma daro. just because we are a mess and the future looks bleak doesn't mean we should surrender and give up. I'd rather we are forced into that position rather than making it easy for those who want that for us.

with that said, somali politics will make u pessimistic.

We can keep the puppet leaders as figure heads but the clan networks can be a social security network. Imagine if just 100 people from each community in the diaspora and somalia pledged a certain amount each month in taxes/donations and put in some time to build wells, support farmers and help create jobs how much hunger and poverty would decrease in the country instead of relying on an incompetent government and aid.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Gobalism or muh Qabiil village will never work and has never worked, the more you divide each other in small clan fiefdom the overall weaker you become as a group and the more you begin to quarrel within sub-clan's which is already happening, you become ripe for exploitation as well as divide and conquer strategies, becoming weaker and weaker to the point we will be wiped of the map.

The British colonialist set up these small tribal fiefdom as a strategy to control large lands and populations, they knew these fiefdoms would each compete against each other for servitude while further dividing themselves over petty local stuff, and as a result they could never collectively challenge the British and they could be wiped out with absolute ease, this is the classic bull story.

History never lies, the Israelite's divided themselves into 12 tribes and different fiefdoms, this allowed the Roman's to conquer them with ease who were all united, it allowed the romans to appoint their own puppets to the point they came after Nabi Isa to kill him because one of their own ratted him out, and as a result they were wiped off the map.

The whole reason why we are in this shit hole in the first place is because of this division which allowed Kikyu, Xabashi's and the Europeans to control us from A-Z with absolute ease, and people are advocating for more disunity in response which is what I got us in this shit hole in the first place, you couldn't make this stuff up.

Even the 4 million Tigrays ruling the 80 million hordes with a iron first understand this unity concept better then us, utterly disappointed reading some of these comments from people I didn't expect.

Today is the closest Somali's have ever been to unity in the 30 years that passed and you see this wherever you go, hence why you have all these parasite countries interfering in ways they never did before, the youth by unanimous consensus despise muh qabiil, so does all the middle/upper class people, and especially more so those who suffered the most back home from this (Koonfur)

I was reading the other day how one of Baileh own clan's men were outing him out on twitter for corruption by delaying payment to the SNA and as a result jeopardised the security of the capital, he will be forced to resign over this as a result, this was unheard of before because the majority of our people used to blindly support our corrupt people because of qabiil without ever challenging them, that's no longer the case today.

Politics is a reflection of the collective state of a people, if they are filth, their leaders will be filth, if they are good, their leaders will be good.