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Bosaaso iyo Qandala
Mayb Ogaden from Jubaland
Somali Says She Will NEVER Identify As Black While Not Living In Her Homeland
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Nope western europe
I was watching that video about the Cuban lady I understand where she’s coming from , and can see why others feel disrespected. Culturally she’s a Latino but in America she’s forced to identify with African American culture, but at the same time no one forced her to take on acting roles meant for AA. she would like more representation for her people . It came across bad I suppose
either way IMO it’s only U.K. Somalis that are fighting the black identity tag for obvious reasons the rest of the diaspora are not .
Hamzza
VIP
Your whole argument is that; Black/African have negative meaning/stereotypes behind it, so it's better to not identify with such names.
It's like Scandinavians refusing to identify with other North-Western Europeans, as Europeans have a bad reputation of Imperialism and Slavery.
We are Genetically, Linguistically and culturally Black/Africans. Tunusians, Boers and South Indians are not it's that simple.
Tunisians are mostly Eurasian in their DNA.
Boers speak Indo-European languages.
South Indians have no relations with the people of Africa whatsoever.
We are 60%+ SSA.
We speak Cushitic, African language.
We are mostly Dhuxul.
You are shansi right or barwani right?
He’s mj
Hamzza
VIP
Why would you assume I'm Barawani or Shashi?
Still consider my self black but it doesn’t define me first, as being ‘black’ associates you with African Americans and I don’t consider myself with that.
I’m more African than ‘black’ but skin tone yes I’m ‘black’. I have pride in being Somali and African before being ‘black’.
If I were to list it it would be,
Somali
African
Black
British
I’m more African than ‘black’ but skin tone yes I’m ‘black’. I have pride in being Somali and African before being ‘black’.
If I were to list it it would be,
Somali
African
Black
British
I agree with this. “Black” is on the very bottom of my priorities
Black meaning slave is bullshit lol, its just a physical description that has been used thousands of hears
Prophet even said theres no difference between black and white skin 1,400 years ago, and many famous sahabas were described as having black skin
Hmm interesting read. Either way, our 'madow' ancestry is higher than our West Asian it seems.
Why are we so dark then? That includes Northern Habeshas as well.Not 60+ its 55
Northern Habeshas are 40-45% SSA
Skin colour is a very poor measure of African ancestry, think about South Asians and Australian Aboriginals, they can be very dark skinned whilst having practically no Sub Saharan African ancestry. Theres only really a handful of genes for skin colour and they are very sensitive to enviromental pressures. Skin colour is way too easily influenced by our environment to tell us anything meaningful about ancestry.
Whats considered "Non African" ancestry, is belived to have evolved anywhere from 70,000-100,000 years ago, genes most associated with lighter skin in Euros and West Asians evolved maybe 30,000 years ago, so theres a large discrepencay there which pretty much shows that for a certain period of time, no Non Africans in West Eurasia could have been pale/lightskinned, and even then, lightskin only spread to certain parts of Eurasia very recently, so Lightskin =/= Non African, nor does, Darkskin =/= Sub Saharan African
These people easily have way less Sub Saharan ancestry than palest pinkish white Berbers you can find.
I remember we had a conversation about Somalis Eurasian/Natufian ancestry, and I said its not really Natufian but Indigenous Egyptians Hunter Gatherers + Levantine Farmers. Well the Egyptians probably didn't have genes associated with lighter skin, due to the fact that other fossils during the pre-farming era of North Africa also don't show genes for lighter skin, as well as even most fossils in the Levant, which includes the Natufians, the genes for lighter skin have been found in little to no Natufian remains, they're still predominantly MENA/Eurasian but simply not light skinned/pale.
Anatolian/Aegean farmers spread into the rest of the Middle East/Europe around 9000 years ago and spread genes for lighter skin, they, alongside the Natufians are ancestral to Levantine Farmers, which is probably where Somalis got most of their light skin genes from, the Mediterranean descendents of these Anatolian/Aegean farmers also settled in the Maghreb, they can easily make up 30-45% of a Maghrebis genome, which is a big reason why (among other reasons) Maghrebis are so lightskinned despite being around 20% Sub Saharan African, because the source of their MENA ancestry happened to be lightskinned whilst ours simply lacked those genes.
There is no people in America or in the Caribbean who was a slave and whose parents and grandparents were slaves as well. Fyi, slavery in the USA ended 150 years ago. In the British empire, it had ended far beyond that.
Besides, Europeans came to Somalia and the rest of Africa and colonized it. So I don't know why you're hiding behind we were not subjected to "slavery". There were Somalis who were captured on the coastal lines and sold into slavery. You need to understand slavery occurred because the victims were overpowered, chained, and sent to other continents through ships. You really can't blame the victims. They found themselves in a situation that was beyond their control.
Finally, wherever African captives were taken to, they revolted and resisted whatever means that was available to them. State apparatus were always used to suppress their just uprising. And this should teach you as fellow Africans, we should not run away from being identified as blacks. Yes, in the American context, every Somali in the US is a black man or woman.
Not 60+ its 55
Northern Habeshas are 40-45% SSA
Wasn't it 60%?
