Somalia’s Galmudug rejects deployment of AMISOM troops in region

[Mckenzie]

So you speak the same language, dialect, have the same cultural norms, perform the same duties in farms, have the same religion and your telling me their was no mixing? even arabs had sex with their slave girls. You are viewing a Somalia in the lenses of colonialism, reading from colonial texts. You need to view a Somali when there was no 'colonialism' and how they interacted.

Waad isku buuqday again you mental nutjob. Somalis are an extremely puritanical people, if the Madhibaan, Tumaal, Yibir etc were ostracised, refused inter marriage and left to their own, what makes you think Madow was accepted? Atleast the others were nasab Somali. There has always been a clear distinction between Somali and Madow, waa Jileec iyo Madow, Bilis iyo Boo.n etc. If anything, it was the Colonialistis banned slavery and made them equal. Only in your world is it acceptable to dismiss a primary source of evidence in favour of hearsay, hypothesise and "Aabo wuxuu yiri". What a loser.

You have tried to go off-track again but i will remind you that it was a HG politician that established the first Pan African movement in Somalia, Mohamed Sheikh Osman 'Edmundo' founder of Somali National African Union (SANU) before even the likes of Kwame Nkrumah. Once said to be the smartest politician in Italian Somaliland, he was touted to be the first President but died in the 50s.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Waad isku buuqday again you mental nutjob. Somalis are an extremely puritanical people, if the Madhibaan, Tumaal, Yibir etc were ostracised, refused inter marriage and left to their own, what makes you think Madow was accepted? Atleast the others were nasab Somali. There has always been a clear distinction between Somali and Madow, waa Jileec iyo Madow, Bilis iyo Boo.n etc. If anything, it was the Colonialistis banned slavery and made them equal. Only in your world is it acceptable to dismiss a primary source of evidence in favour of hearsay, hypothesise and "Aabo wuxuu yiri". What a loser.

You have tried to go off-track again but i will remind you that it was a HG politician that established the first Pan African movement in Somalia, Mohamed Sheikh Osman 'Edmundo' founder of Somali National African Union (SANU) before even the likes of Kwame Nkrumah. Once said to be the smartest politician in Italian Somaliland, he was touted to be the first President but died in the 50s.

We are a muslim people you nacala shaydhan ku yaal using colonial texts. The reason madhiban, midg22 groups are rejected is we don't know their 'ab tiris' we could be marrying our brother or sister who got lost from the family and forget their father and awoowe name. This how somalis recognize each other as family, based on people name and father name and his father name and they see an automatic correlation and know their the same father if the names matches. You can't marry your brother or sister in Islam, without abtiris, you won't know if this person is related to you. Bastar yahow Gaalka kuffar yahow, ashahado waryaa iska naar waxani colonialism yaysan diinta ka saarin.

The quran said tribe is used for recognition purposes, what u think that recognition purpose means? it's to identify who is family and who isn't and obvious blood relation laws and marriage laws or else you could be in a marriage of HARAM. That's why you can't change an 'adopted' child name or your kaffir in Islam as that kid could marry his brother who he never met who has his father and awoowe name still in his head.

The Madow were slaves so their fathers may have not been known and this may have caused discrimination but not because of their nose size or hair texture. Many somalis have nose size and hair texture like that, Somalis are not about racial similarities. They don't care how u look, as long as you prove your father and awoowe lived in puntland or has links to majerten or harti or darod tribes. Nothing else matters.

 

[Mckenzie]

We are a muslim people you nacala shaydhan ku yaal using colonial texts. The reason madhiban, midg22 groups are rejected is we don't know their 'ab tiris' we could be marrying our brother who got lost from the family and forget this father and awoowe name. This how somalis recognize each other as family, based on people name and father name and his father name and they see an automatic correlation and know their the same father. You can't marry your brother or sister in Islam, without abtiris, you won't know if this person is related to you. Gaal kuffar yahow.

The quran said tribe is used for recognition purposes, what u think that recognition purpose means? it's to identify who is family and who isn't and obvious blood relation laws and marriage laws or else you could be in a marriage of HARAM. That's why you can't change an 'adopted' child name or your kaffir in Islam as that kid could marry his brother who he never met who has his father and awoowe name still in his head.

Ma anagaa diin noo tilmaamee? The same people who claim Xaaji Cali Majeerteen was their first ever pilgrim

War Madow aa sheegte, Daarood laftarkiis kuwo badan oon la guursan bay leeyihiin. Ask the Abgaal how the Gaalgale (Nuux Maxamuud Mj) were treated as sub humans because they were seen as unclean refugees and parasites from the North East.

The Madow were taught our language and adopted our Muslim faith. They still have many pagan traditions such as sorcery but that is slowly dissapearing.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Ma anagaa diin noo tilmaamee? The same people who claim Xaaji Cali Majeerteen was their first ever pilgrim

War Madow aa sheegte, Daarood laftarkiis kuwo badan oon la guursan bay leeyihiin. Ask the Abgaal how the Gaalgale (Nuux Maxamuud Mj) were treated as sub humans because they were seen as unclean refugees and parasites from the North East.

The Madow were taught our language and adopted our Muslim faith. They still have many pagan traditions such as sorcery but that is slowly dissapearing.

So your saying muslims can't marry muslims. So must annul all muslim marriages around the world who are from different countries or tribes? nice one, a Madow is muslim, if he ashahado, that's it. They cannot be restricted from marriage or else your no longer a muslim following the diin itself. You become GAAL and thru that you get kicked out of the Somali tribal system anyways. So your racial purification nonsense has no place in Somali, it's all neo-colonialism.

I am neo-traditionalist. Watch how my idealogy wins all somali hearts n minds while they tell you 'adeer' go to africa and u go look for ppl who have tima jilec an and small nose and call them your wallalo, but they won't without knowing his ABTIRIS and where his father is and then they interrogate his father about his father, they interrogate his brothers to ensure they are from the same father. They find their cousins and interrogate further. They keep going up the chain of the ancestors to find 'relatives' alive from them and correlate. Nuux Maxamud is Majerten why would he keep his abtiris, he has to keep it or else it's not islamic to change your name, you become KUFFAR. He is majerten, I don't care how he was treated. My Bah dubays relative who disappeared from us and has erigavo family with isaaq found our family in garowe.

 

[Mckenzie]

So your saying muslims can't marry muslims. So must annul all muslim marriages around the world who are from different countries or tribes? nice one, a Madow is muslim, if he ashahado, that's it. They cannot be restricted from marriage or else your no longer a muslim following the diin itself. You become GAAL and thru that you get kicked out of the Somali tribal system anyways. So your racial purification nonsense has no place in Somali, it's all neo-colonialism.

I am neo-traditionalist. Watch how my idealogy wins all somali hearts n minds while they tell you 'adeer' go to africa and u go look for ppl who have tima jilec an and small nose and call them your wallalo, but they won't without knowing his ABTIRIS and where his father is and then they interrogate his father about his father, they interrogate his brothers to ensure they are from the same father. They find their cousins and interrogate further. They keep going up the chain of the ancestors to find 'relatives' alive from them and correlate. Nuux Maxamud is Majerten why would he keep his abtiris, he has to keep it or else it's not islamic to change your name, you become KUFFAR. He is majerten, I don't care how he was treated. My Bah dubays relative who disappeared from us and has erigavo family with isaaq found our family in garowe.

Warka badan aad daldalaysid iska dhaaf, Madowta inantaada udhiibo haday dhab kaa tahay.

Neo-traditionalist my arse, you are a neo-retard.

 

[Dues Ex Machina]

@Reiko why is this guy making Osman Mohamouds out to be bantus? subhanallah

 

[DR OSMAN]

Warka badan aad daldalaysid iska dhaaf, Madowta inantaada udhiibo haday dhab kaa tahay.

Neo-traditionalist my arse, you are a neo-retard.

I don't have to give Madow marraige this is 'consentual' If I do not consent for some reason because I don't like his job, his lifestyle, his not practising muslim, or whatever my likes and desires are not a problem. But don't 'switch' allah law and say it's unlawful for them to marry Somalis, that is corruption brother. Is-gabo adigu. Yaa ku yiri jeclow, lakin ha oran illahi ma fasixin in lays gursado.

That's why I am saying, their would've been many times people married Madow in the past in the south, yes it may not have been common, but it wasn't ILLEGAL either as far religion wise. Maybe someone who liked a girl or boy would've happened and their family were 'religious' types and didn't care for tribal nonsense. As long as their family can be identified and they have an abtiris somewhere, these people are not haram to marry, do not make haram what allah has made halal. Ma jecli dheh Madow your personal choice but don't interwine it with the religion of islam. Waan ku saxaya keliya, Waan ka badiya dhinaca diinta iyo dhaqanka somaliyeed. Your naabnaab habar gedir, you live in Somali properties and you think your a fkn muslim or somali? your salat is haram, tuug yahow tuuga dhashay oo guri islameed lagu soo koriyay, adigo oo dhan ayaa nijaas ah, adiga ayaa uu bahan in dalka midg00 laga dhigo.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Warka badan aad daldalaysid iska dhaaf, Madowta inantaada udhiibo haday dhab kaa tahay.

Neo-traditionalist my arse, you are a neo-retard.

@Mckenzie you want real talk? why don't u take an eritrean who looks Somali with nice thin nose and thin lips and thin hair and nice beautiful golden color skin. Take him to Galmudug and tell them, 'walalo' aan ka dhigno kan waan isku eek nahaye. Then tell them he will have a qori in our land and have exact same rights as habar gedir meesha ab illa ab uu joggay. They will slap you in the face and say waxani muxu ahaa niinkan waalan oo dadka ku midaynayo isku eekansho, ma wuxu na mooday gaalo oo wax kasto la arko isku raca even to the point of two men fucking each other and marrying. They won't accept it since they know niinka awoowe iyo saldhig magac ku leh iyo relatives ku leh galmudug ayaa ka dhow kan eritreanka oo racialism dhinacisa uu doodaysid. He will be treated like shisheeye and guest no matter how much he looks like the locals. Learn Somali culture deeply and there is parts that are interwined with Islam also which you require a good understanding of.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Mckenzie just because you look like a Puntlander, doesn't mean you are one sxb. You will never recieve the same right as wiil degaanka ah ama wiil asliyan ah oo awoowahisa iyo relativekisa meesha joggo for centuries. Just deal with it. You will never be treated in the same way a darod would who is linked from ab to ab to the same father as Puntlanders. U need to stop selling your 19th century racialism dreams, it is fake science, ka har, it doesn't work anywhere sxb. Waxani waxaa abuurtay niin adigo oo kale ah oo isku maskax la'eg tihin and you worship it but u can never demonstrate it will work ever in Somalia. Somalispot and their racialism isn't Somalia, you will have a culture clash and end up returning to the diaspora following your psuedo science of the 19th century.

 

[Mckenzie]

@Mckenzie you want real talk? why don't u take an eritrean who looks Somali with nice thin nose and thin lips and thin hair and nice beautiful golden color skin. Take him to Galmudug and tell them, 'walalo' aan ka dhigno kan waan isku eek nahaye. Then tell them he will have a qori in our land and have exact same rights as habar gedir meesha ab illa ab uu joggay. They will slap you in the face and say waxani muxu ahaa niinkan waalan oo dadka ku midaynayo isku eekansho, ma wuxu na mooday gaalo oo wax kasto la arko isku raca even to the point of two men fucking each other and marrying. They won't accept it since they know niinka awoowe iyo saldhig magac ku leh iyo relatives ku leh galmudug ayaa ka dhow kan eritreanka oo racialism dhinacisa uu doodaysid. He will be treated like shisheeye and guest no matter how much he looks like the locals. Learn Somali culture dmeeply and there is parts that are interwined with Islam also which you require a good understanding of.

Madow anagaa Muslim ka dhignay, maxaad wax ka ogtahay. You are the biggest dhaandhaan oo meel walba Bah Dubays la orda, what can a reer baadiyo like you tell a reer magaal Sacad.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Madow anagaa Muslim ka dhignay, maxaad wax ka ogtahay. You are the biggest dhaandhaan oo meel walba Bah Dubays la orda, what can a reer baadiyo like you tell a reer magaal Sacad.

Your psuedo science has no working model. That's what I am showing u. You can't prove it works, you know it doesn't why you stick to such nonsense. You want someone to reject their brother, like my brother in my family, because I found an eritrean who looks like me? but I reject my brother who doesn't look like me even though we are the same father and we don't share any same father me and this eritrean who looks similar to me? Get the f*ck outta here you naabnaab, this isn't islamic. Tribe is islamic because if you don't your tribe and your fathers you could end up marrying people who are brothers and sister and your marriage is NIJAAS.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Madow anagaa Muslim ka dhignay, maxaad wax ka ogtahay. You are the biggest dhaandhaan oo meel walba Bah Dubays la orda, what can a reer baadiyo like you tell a reer magaal Sacad.

War iga tag. PL imow keliya you will see that you are same right as Madow u fall under somalinimo card you and him, you will never enjoy tribal rights in PL, jeclow ama diid. Somalinimo hosteeda imanaysa weliga sida kan Madowka, isku xaquuq dhinaca puntland. U will never hold a gun in pl, or president or power in our state like the Madow, isku xaquuq ba tihin, you will always be resident who is tolerated based on somali card. Your sacad and I am Osman mahmoud. Different name, different awoowe, different tribe baan galayna aniga iyo adiga sida Madowka uu meel kale galayo. You will only be accepted in PL thru somali card iyo xaquuq somalinimo ba helaysa keliya sida kan Madowka. You are not different to Madow to me, you as shisheeye as Madow hadi somalinimo la burburiyo