Somalia Aint Fighting Terror

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How is it terrorism happens over and over in our nation yet the response is the same. Cops arrive, investigate, and that's it? have you noticed that's all that happens. Why aren't they finding out the parts needed to make these explosives and where it needs to be sourced. Is it within our market place? or outside of it? if it's outside of our country, then start building up security around airports, ports, border areas.

If it's within our market place, put a person in each area those components are needed and identify suspicious behavior and purchases. For example if you need battery, then in the battery stores and where-ever it's sold, have an inside person there monitoring any purchases of such material. Do the same for each component needed and put an inside man at those points. If an explosion ever happens again, cops will come identify where it was bought by the serial numbers or whatever identifier there is and link it back to our market and store sold and blame the inside man for not doing his job if he starts to get clannish or overlook a purchase because of friend, family, tribe or even bribes.

These materials aren't just made out of the sky, their is linkages and points that are needed which is the supply of such things. We need to write down each attacker, his clan, age group, and if he is local or not. We can then review each person who does such thing and start seeing is there a pattern in age, tribe, city, poverty levels, where was he trained and which mosque, and start focusing efforts around that district or age group or city the mosque.

We ain't doing shit to stop this except respond when it's too late. No prevention happening but only RESPONSES. Responses ain't gonna stop it. If the attackers are all sharing a common mosque or common imam or common idealogy, you need to kill it there so nothing below can happen. There has to be some commonality because their doing the same common thing, explosions and killing. Note down the commonalities and begin ending it once and for all.
 

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What makes one guy blow himself up yet everyone else from his tribe, gender, age bracket, town, and wealth level doesn't do it? what is it that separates him from the others who are identical and same situation and then start seeing the others because there has to be something in common because you cannot get the same response over and over again with explosions if their isn't something in common between these people. Once we know what's in common, you need take the head of the snake there.

I have noticed one common fact, they always come from areas controlled by Shabab and send him on a mission, they have control over a specific area. So one way is to remove that control. The army focus should be total removal of control.

Then there are other stuff that need answering finance and logistics the actual materials are critical and money to buy it. We need to monitor the market places for materials used in bomb making and have plans there also. The money is critical, you ain't doing shit if there is no money so we need to know who gives them money and Bakaraha is big one for multiple reasons is my assumption.

They dont wanna see a govt ever come and make it peaceful and bring competitors to the land and strip them of their prestige and influence in the community. Why would anyone wanna work harder to make money by supporting an entity the government who will make it peaceful and thru that bring more competition? So we need to answer them also.

Plus we need to answer the brotherhood especially qatar and turkey and egypt and just accept their foreign policy in return they leave us alone internally to do what we want. We need to fight these terrorists over many dimensions. Idealogy, Money, Where they control, and Logistic suppliers. These need REAL answers that are about preventing not responding.
 
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Or are you guys satisfied that we been fighting this mob since 2004, it's 15 years for goodness sakes, are we going to apply the same shitty responses we have been doing in the past and expect some miracle to happen? it shouldn't take this long to eliminate these guys if it's done properly and actually planned and evaluated what each plan will do and it's end result. This responding with cops isn't good enough it's a waste of our time to come when it's to late.
 

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The peron from burco berbera and hargaysa blow them selves up for icitiraaf and a person from cadaado dhuusomareeb and mogadhisho will blow themselves up cause of hatred they have for darood they figured if theres bombing and anarchy everyday in mogadhisho then those whos properties they have stolen won't come back to mogadhisho to reclaim it plus many of them gain from lawlessness due to the black market, they profit of setting up isbaaro, selling drugs, medicine and food thats expired...
 

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Or are you guys satisfied that we been fighting this mob since 2004, it's 15 years for goodness sakes, are we going to apply the same shitty responses we have been doing in the past and expect some miracle to happen? it shouldn't take this long to eliminate these guys if it's done properly and actually planned and evaluated what each plan will do and it's end result. This responding with cops isn't good enough it's a waste of our time to come when it's to late.
If the people of mogadhisho wanted peace mogadhisho would have been peaceful a long time ago. In hargaysa its hargaysa people that make hargaysa peaceful likewise in garoowe its the people of garoowe that make garoowe peaceful no outside force can bring you peace if you dont want peace
 

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The peron from burco berbera and hargaysa blow them selves up for icitiraaf and a person from cadaado dhuusomareeb and mogadhisho will blow themselves up cause of hatred they have for darood they figured if theres bombing and anarchy everyday in mogadhisho then those whos properties they have stolen won't come back to mogadhisho to reclaim it plus many of them gain from lawlessness due to the black market, they profit of setting up isbaaro, selling drugs, medicine and food thats expired...

AHHHHHHHHHHHH the war economy, yeah it's a aint it. Eliminates competitors and leaves you as the only big boy in town cause everyone else is afraid to operate there and u got the market for yourself. Heck it's even worse if people with more money and expertise enter the marketplace who can out-do and beat you and close u down.

I don't think it's those isbaaro boys who are causing it though, it's the bakaro boys they have the money not the isbaaro boys to fund whatever demon is walking around town that is anti government!!! dano ishelay, some nutter who is mad anti govt and pro some idealogy and bakaro boy who dont want his business disturbed by any govt or knock on effect that comes later like new business men.
 

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AHHHHHHHHHHHH the war economy, yeah it's a aint it. Eliminates competitors and leaves you as the only big boy in town cause everyone else is afraid to operate there and u got the market for yourself. Heck it's even worse if people with more money and expertise enter the marketplace who can out-do and beat you and close u down.

I don't think it's those isbaaro boys who are causing it though, it's the bakaro boys they have the money not the isbaaro boys to fund whatever demon is walking around town that is anti government!!! dano ishelay, some nutter who is mad anti govt and pro some idealogy and bakaro boy who dont want his business disturbed by any govt or knock on effect that comes later like new business men.
The people shacab are more powerful than any corporation or company, if the people of mogadhisho really wanted peace they would kickout the terrorists overnight but its due to tacit consent that al shabaab still operates unabated in mogadhisho do you know why theres no al shabaab present in hargaysa or garoowe? Cause the inhabitants of those cities wouldnt allow it.
 

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Lets not beat around the bush and call a spade a spade do you think those who still call for a return of 91 civil war when threatening prime minister khayre and president farmaajo and the federal government want peace? Anarchy for them is the order of the day.
 

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Both of you take your daily recommended prescription properly please.:farmajoyaab:
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They operate in Somalia and Amisom contributing countries only.
Why doesn't al shabaab operate in burco hargaysa and berbera? Why is there a bombing everyday in mogadhisho do you think reer hargaysa would ever allow daily bombing to occur in their city daily indiscriminately targeting civilians?
 

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Why doesn't al shabaab operate in burco hargaysa and berbera? Why is there a bombing everyday in mogadhisho do you think reer hargaysa would ever allow daily bombing to occur in their city daily indiscriminately targeting civilians?

I heard somaliland pays shabab away not because the people wouldn't do it. There is a difference, somaliland is as fragile or even more then mogadishu as clan runs far deeper into society then most places in the nation. Just a little clan effect can send that place into civil war and it's in their interest to pay shabab to stay away. Heck many notable shababis live in somaliland, their is a relationship that's for sure, the question is what will happen if somaliland doesnt allow them to reside there? it's damn ON is my question.

Puntland doesn't allow them to operate at all and won't be held hostage because the longer they hold you hostage, the more others will try that approach. We don't believe in giving them or anyone an excuse to follow their path and see it as beneficial path to take. We want them to see bullets in heads basically if they try that shit over there.
 

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Somaliland is gonna be held ransom by everyone in the future because it has tolerated to be held ransom by shabab, others will see this and say hey I will do the same thing also using another excuse and it will forever be in that situation. Puntland has refused that approach and so has most of the world dealing with terrorism, it's a short-term answer taking somaliland route but it just means more will adopt that approach and become unfeasible and never-ending in the end
 

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Shabab can work far more easily in a somaliland that isn't compliant then in other regions because clan animosity is so deeeeeeeeeeeeep over there, it would be a field day basically. But there is no denying they live in burco and erigavo many shababi affiliates, it's not even hidden and they are openly seen. Somaliland and Shabab basically the same thing bro so obviously shabab wont attack them as they ALREADY OWN THEM. you dont attack who u already own, you attack those YOU DONT like mogadishu and puntland and jubbaland.
 

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Cognissance you have to much hawiye hate, the real es are in hargeisa maynnnnnnnnn not hamar or bosaso or kismayo or baydhabo cause who in the world would attack somewhere they OWN? you attack places u dont own or where there is stiff resistance. Somaliland is a TERRORIST STATE and Puntland called them out for it and I believe it's true cause Puntland don't throw shit like that around publicly if it can't back it UP with names of known shababis in erigavo and burco.

Do you see terrorists attacking QATAR? I highly doubt they ever will, cause it's in bed with them. Where-ever attacks happen in the world it's because they are not yet OWNED well not fully anyways or else why would you attack them if you own them? attack your own base and support? that is new and must be some wild ganja shit @Cognitivedissonance is smoking
 

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I heard somaliland pays shabab away not because the people wouldn't do it. There is a difference, somaliland is as fragile or even more then mogadishu as clan runs far deeper into society then most places in the nation. Just a little clan effect can send that place into civil war and it's in their interest to pay shabab to stay away. Heck many notable shababis live in somaliland, their is a relationship that's for sure, the question is what will happen if somaliland doesnt allow them to reside there? it's damn ON is my question.

Puntland doesn't allow them to operate at all and won't be held hostage because the longer they hold you hostage, the more others will try that approach. We don't believe in giving them or anyone an excuse to follow their path and see it as beneficial path to take. We want them to see bullets in heads basically if they try that shit over there.

Busy never no Al shabaab is in somaliland doesn't mean they could they pay them..v Somaliland got attacked once in 2008 heavily and after that they upped their security. Well if you've ever traveled throughout you would know that you can't go anywhere in Somaliland without paying through a checkpoint.

Don't cite bullshit if you can't provide proof.
 
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