Somalia Economic Model What Can Work?

[Tukraq]

@Teeri-Alpha East asians are like Ogadens niyahow. First security weeye, they lost the war, all their ppl study physics, chemistry, etc. The old generation I mean, maybe new generation will be different. But it doesnt look like it with their focus on 'cyber security'. North korea is identical, he dont give a f*ck about sanctions and being shut out from the world, he wants to come with a gus not a dirac first. Their not bad ppl as long as their not living in a world of hostage. China is next level shit to that but they also greedy though not as strict as north koreans who will prefer starving before losing their warrior status. Mongoolia waa aragta geesinimada kama tagayo awoowe buu lee yahay MONGOLS. He lives poor also, he doesnt care bro, it's about XINIYO FOR THEM FIRST AND THEN HORUMAR.

MJ ARE NOT AS STRICT AS OGS, WE WILL NEGIOTATE BEFORE WE DIE, WE WOULDNT ACCEPT HIROSHIMA WALLAHI BUT WE ALSO WANNA BE FREE, BUT NOT TO THE POINT OF 'XASUUQ' I SEE MY DAD FACE THEIR NOT INTERESTED IN WAR IN OFFENSIVE WAR ANYWAYS. PL IS PURE DEFENCE I KNOW THAT BY HISTORY AND EVEN NOW, WE DONT VENTURE OUT

They lost the war to america, Remember japan defeated Russia soundly pre WW1, in WW2 the US had far more trouble with them then the nazis in Europe, infact once America got involved in Europe it was basically an easy takeover, Japan however was far stronger than any European nation and was a far harder foe to beat (had to create a new technology in nukes to be able to do this), this is why I’m exposing the balance of power to you, Japan and China are in the top 3 technologically in the world as well as economically, US is on a race with China as we speak in terms of 5g and quantum computing

 

[DR OSMAN]

Trust me in the near future Australia will be a Chinese colony lol

Their all over the place they say now in Australia in the construction market and building high rises, but their also taking over companies, I haven't looked deeply but it's not the big banks or natural resources companies. They tend to be small business owners here I see them as 'rahanwayn' in PL who do small trading in PL cities, but they're foreign business men are coming into our market and taking over key areas of the market but it's still small in wide scale but it's creeping up.

I know the market now is saturated with their buildings of high rises and they own electricity companies which is 'quite' un-usual but they do. I predict the same will happen with rahanwayn who will creep up and dominate our market place like Australia. I see it as the same just 'different scaled' economies bro. Ogaden is no different to East asian just 'scaled' differently and arena and technology, their 'principles' are the same wallahi no 'surrender' type. If u gave ethiopia and ogaden the same tools and education the east asians had, the shit wud just 'scale' nothing else and become a world problem. I see this stuff quite clearly at the 'low level' areas, I study low level areas to 'gouge' the world powers tactics.

Ogadens wud prefer 'east asian' culture and should read their literature it suits their personality @Teeri-Alpha those niggas DONT SURRENDER untill HIROSHIMA HAPPENS. Look at north korea it still wont surrender, they follow the principle adigo bahan bakhti lama cuno

 

[Tukraq]

Their all over the place they say now in Australia in the construction market and building high rises, but their also taking over companies, I haven't looked deeply but it's not the big banks or natural resources companies. They tend to be small business owners here I see them as 'rahanwayn' in PL who do small trading in PL cities, but they're foreign business men are coming into our market and taking over key areas of the market but it's still small in wide scale but it's creeping up.

I know the market now is saturated with their buildings of high rises and they own electricity companies which is 'quite' un-usual but they do. I predict the same will happen with rahanwayn who will creep up and dominate our market place like Australia. I see it as the same just 'different scaled' economies bro. Ogaden is no different to East asian just 'scaled' differently and arena and technology, their 'principles' are the same wallahi no 'surrender' type. If u gave ethiopia and ogaden the same tools and education the east asians had, the shit wud just 'scale' nothing else and become a world problem. I see this stuff quite clearly at the 'low level' areas, I study low level areas to 'gouge' the world powers tactics.

They have more power though, right now they’re just thinking peace and colonizing economically through debt traps, but like I said if there were ever any war y’all would be first ones taken out remember japans control of that South Pacific region in WW2? Only US could stop them

 

[DR OSMAN]

They have more power though, right now they’re just thinking peace and colonizing economically through debt traps, but like I said if there were ever any war y’all would be first ones taken out remember japans control of that South Pacific region in WW2? Only US could stop them

Yes those east asians needed a nuclear bomb telling u on the ground their not defeatable and even reached 'pearl harbor' right? they penetrated 'America' and made her 'vulnerable' like a . Even Russians didn't get that far with their commie client states around the world in strategic areas like 'red sea' for oil trade, cuba next door to america, their old soviet colonial stomping grounds in afg-iran and those nations. They had the arab world under 'communist of pan arabism' but it still reported to them for everything like intel, weapons, policy advice on foreign nations, UN voting recommendations.

I fear the chinese but I also know their not offensive nation, they prefer to be left alone and respected that's what I tend to see, they had huge 'wall' around china due to invaders like mongols and shit and possibly other groups, I didn't read their history that deep. But when I saw the great china wall, it's obvious they were like 'harar' in ethiopia fearing the 'oromo' gashin outside oo aan xishood lahayn.

Plus Islam never went near them wallahi, no real battle at all and it was 'learning place' of the world at the time as the hadith says. I think muslims were 'wise' about that decision. But yeah god forbid china goes to war because we saw what japan did the world, china would be like 'ten fold' worse. Japan victory only happened cuz of an 'edge' and that's not a victory to me personally because u got an edge, u didn't use your brain or strategy to win on 'similar' capacity. Like two boxers, you can't give one 'knuckle duster' right and claim you 'won'? Nope. That's why I prefer ancient wars, the 'edge' was similar, you can tell who is 'real geesi' and who isn't and needs 'edge'. The one who needs 'edge' u need to focus on learning his 'edge' so u keep up to date at all times and bring him back down to 'even' and wallahi he is FULEY XAAR WAYN.

I also am impressed how vietnam held off the Americans and they were poor country kkkkk. Those asians defend themselves quite well, but the mongols wallahi when I read genghis khan, nigga humiliated them. I admire genghis khan, his one I read alot thru documentaries, I just loved the bravery and I don't care if he is pagan or not, u don't mock a man if he is stronger then u regardless of your views or his. But he was wrong for throwing all that knowledge into river, he shud of taken it back to mongolia why waste it. Its like Somalis invaded America in 100 years, we aint gonna massacre harvard and shit, that shit coming to Somalia

 

[Ras]

Indhoyaars make more money then cadaans, they should be number two at the least (asians versus ashkanazis is debatable)

In the states yh but only the best indoyhar get to immigrate.

GDP per capita in indhoyar land is a lot lower than cadaans on average.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Tukraq there doesn't seem to be huge china friendly policy by either side of parties here, there was one guy who was paul keating, he loved them. Sxb Australia is like 'sool' in PL, they are protected by PL as long as their united in the first place. If Australia divides on china, I can see America saying we aint gonna defend u, cause mjs pulled out of sool when dhulos joined SL. Majerten ku dhex dhimanayo dhulos on two sides, and u cant expect america to send soldiers to australia with half fighting for china and half america. Well who knows they may, but i know we didnt.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Tukraq I study third world countries as testing ground, cause it's same as second or first world, just different 'scale'. U don't apply what u couldn't apply in third world to larger nation ma garatay? it's kinda like my 'testing' ground to see if my idea is right or wrong, I don't go to books other then ancient documentaries also where it's proven to be 'applied' and the 'result'. It's all quite similar politics no matter at what scale of it your on, just the capacity and arena is different, not much else. The tactics are 'identical'. China is creeping up on Australia just like SL did in PL and how Islamists do in Bosaso economic lifelines as we told them to take it after ssdf war and stay out of politics as apart of the peace agreement maybe australia did the same for china who knows

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Tukraq what works for niggas and sorry yes they are niggas and I mean 3rd world and 4th world(finally definition exists) cause it's not the same to say Kenya and Somalia at the same level, I don't like injustice like that. It's like saying two workers in a company are equal, yet one shown a considerable 'difference' even though it may not be MUCH in large scale, it's a bloody improvenement and needs to NOTED or else there is no point for him to continuing improving if he is thrown into same category as SOMALIA, it actually unfair in all honesty. It's like throwing PL into same Category as the South, that's what offended me, I can imagine other nations are offended also that 4th world countries are given the same categorization as 3rd world.

Cause the GHETTO of the world can scale just like mathamatics teaches. Doesn't things scale to -1 -2 -3? you can DROP lower then normal nation which is ZERO level that is middle income nations who have system, continue in old trades, and have plans to move onto the next phase of their development. First world countries who are above. But they neglect white ppl the 'below zero' nations they don't undesrstand that it 'scales' also as they see it as one not knowing 'hell has levels too'.

PL is fourth world but South is 4th world but even lower. So you could argue their is categories inside the fourth world and that's where I want to see distinction between PL and South, but I know where I am in the fucking order of the world. I don't claim I am first, second, third world. But I am doing better then south is all I claim.

 

[Ras]

I fear the chinese but I also know their not offensive nation, they prefer to be left alone

Chinese are the scariest thing to walk upright on this planet sxb.

The walled hermit state is a thing of the past. Their new strategy is to control the whole world to ensure that their interests are kept safe.

In South East Asia and Africa it would be rare to see a corporation or even a government say anything bad about them.

A decade ago in America and Europe they used to disparage China a lot but now things are starting to change with more companies staying in line.

They all want a piece of that huge Chinese economy.

Australia became their already with Chinese taking over their major industries.

Soon the world world would be under their influence and gradually we'll all be emasculated like the indhoyar living in hive cities.

They have this long game planned and it's a lot more sinister than the US big moves where you see them coming.

Today your country signs some development or trade deal with them and tomorrow your elites and government are dependent on them.

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[DR OSMAN]

Chinese are the scariest thing to walk upright on this planet sxb.

The walled hermit state is a thing of the past. Their new strategy is to control the whole world to ensure that their interests are kept safe.

In South East Asia and Africa it would be rare to see a corporation or even a government say anything bad about them.

A decade ago in America and Europe they used to disparage China a lot but now things are starting to change with more companies staying in line.

They all want a piece of that huge Chinese economy.

Australia became their already with Chinese taking over their major industries.

Soon the world world would be under their influence and gradually we'll all be emasculated like the indhoyar living in hive cities.

They have this long game planned and it's a lot more sinister than the US big moves where you see them coming.

Today your country signs some development or trade deal with them and tomorrow your elites and government are dependent on them.

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One has to understand a culture before u understand the politics, I am not that familiar with it yet but I will learn it. It's like Somalia if u don't understand the culture of gobanimo, no matter what policy u enact, no-one will accept it. Gobanimo is like my 'dignity' in english or worth. They may have different value system chinese because it's definitel not 'desert' culture and 'settled' and a civilization for as long as pharoahs but the catch is their actually STILL HERE. Pharoah aint

 

[Tukraq]

Chinese are the scariest thing to walk upright on this planet sxb.

The walled hermit state is a thing of the past. Their new strategy is to control the whole world to ensure that their interests are kept safe.

In South East Asia and Africa it would be rare to see a corporation or even a government say anything bad about them.

A decade ago in America and Europe they used to disparage China a lot but now things are starting to change with more companies staying in line.

They all want a piece of that huge Chinese economy.

Australia became their already with Chinese taking over their major industries.

Soon the world world would be under their influence and gradually we'll all be emasculated like the indhoyar living in hive cities.

They have this long game planned and it's a lot more sinister than the US big moves where you see them coming.

Today your country signs some development or trade deal with them and tomorrow your elites and government are dependent on them.

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I would say japan past Europe around 100 years ago, took a while for China to catch up but now they have even passed japan and competing hard with the US, US is also sinister and there’s easily exploitable weakness in China within, expect the cia fbi to create a real uprising

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Tukraq @RasCanjero I am not sure why Somalis love 'foreign' nation information, your opinion won't even count as they point to 'gurigaga'. So it's like pointless focusing outside your own home. But if you want my examination about Australia. Their not like America, it's not the same history. These people do like each other, they have this thing called 'mateship' which is similar to our 'tolnimo' in PL. Do they have differing views yes, it's kinda like when Islamist and SSDF clashed those were two cousins clashing on Islamist idealogy vs SSDF Majerten first.

Can Australia clash in the future over china first and america first? it's very possible. Is China setting up economically following the Islamist model in Bosaso, yes. What can that lead too? infilitration of their politicians with 'donor funds' for parties, it's obvious. But I think they banned 'foreign donors' to close that loop hole in the future. The story of Australia is one found in chains and convicts and thrown from britain, they exported the british culture to 'asian' region ma garatay?

It's similar to how MJ N DHULOS are. Dhulbahante argue they feel closer to Isaaq due to colonial borders right? well there are some Australians who feel their region and neighborhood to Asia is more important then the 'tolnimo' of 'white anglo saxon' nation of britain, australia, new zealand, america, canada. So their in struggle between that but it's not 'extreme' and I don't think the things that binds them the most 'mateship' will allow for what happened in PL between Two Majertens fighting over tolnimo and islamism.

But is it a possibility, who knows, anything can happen. Plus they have strong state in terms of check n balances and queen head of state and they got strong institutions as f*ck that isn't shakeable as u think by some 4 year president. They built those institutions over a hundred years, u think their gonna allow some 4 year prime minister mess around with it?

So yeah Australia is like Dhulos and America is Like MJ and saying we HARTI(anglo saxon), and dhulos saying f*ck u america we hate u, the aussies do hate america deep down so that could be 'factor' wallahi ma jecla as they feel overshadowed by them, cud they pull of a dhulbahante and join china like dhulos did with SL because of MJ overshadowing them in PL yes. But when the SHIT hits the fan though, their HARTI and they know it. And when the shit hits the fan and the ships start coming and jet fighters and tanks, I know australia will choose it's anglo saxon ally.

Tribalism or whatever u wanna call it seems to 'win' in the end. MJ threw out the Islamist and chose SSDF to run the state and told Islamist locals to work on the economic lifeline. Maybe Australia in a war may negiotate with China it's economic lifeline like we did, sometimes u need to negiotate between two bad options ma garatay like PL had too with Islamist. It's the same thing we are in bad spot bro, u wanna survive so u can get to the next stage and if u make unwise decision now you could become hiroshimo.

 

[DR OSMAN]

That's why I don't want PL divided as we are vulnerable then like the Anglo Saxon nations are like Australia who is being treated like SOOL by China and America. It's like fkn disputed zone in 'political' terms not like in Somali terms cause our shit is quite direct, they hide their disputes thru diplomacy. China wants all it's axis to report to beijing as it begins it's expansion project. Their like SL without the 'violence' cuz it's not the right time for that now. PL is like America trying to preserve the anglo saxon nations on HARTI card, saying Somalis wanna kill us. Where-as America saying the world wanna kill us, lets unite. It's got some truth tho but not all aussies buy it and question america alot which is where china may penetrate on who knows like SL did on Dhulbahante @Darwiish97 arguing harti wax la yirah ma jire, the china may argue that to anglo saxon aussies saying america just wants to take it all the power come with me and I give u power kkkkkk and larger responsibility globally, they may pull it off chinese as their asttute politicians according to my father, their very very good when it comes to politics and far better then western world

 

[DR OSMAN]

I study Somalis to see their weakness and how to exploit or cover it so other nations don't. Listen we are people who believe in 'gobanimo'. Have u seen how our leaders love 'women singing in the street' and they love 'igu sawirs' and shit. That's following 'gobanimo' principle, this is quite a potential hole in us as they find out how much u 'sell' for because your not 'grounded' in principles. That's why I argue I am Puntite or Harti like the Anglo Saxons argue about their shared history, culture, and origins. I know what 'wins' in the end, 'TRIBE' over 'regionalism' or 'globalism'. It's happened so many time over history, it's pretty 'strong principle' to stick by if you want to survive in the long run. Somali can just be bought with igu sawir or being told 'come sit with me' so your people think your important and here is bonus payment to buy a house. The sad thing is it's a house kkkk not 'technology' kkkkk not 'inventions' waa 'something' xitaa shacabka haystan ayaa lagu iibsan kara, and that's not how the rest of the world is. We are like 'ghetto kings' u know those ghetto niggas in america who love to limelight, rims, and talking about how good they are but the second he steps out of the ghetto 'wala wasi kara' and the same case happens to those type of somalis who have the african culture of 'guri baan raba ama lacag' because u will only be given 'lacag' based on your 'economic climate' in Somalia, they will never allow u to have anything more then few business shares and property kkkk as they laugh in the ministries how they 'traded' your whole leader like the slave trade days. They focus on your leader because it's the leadership, it shows the world hadu isaga laga guulaystay, shacabkina aint shit either

Even if u buy their leaders in Australia, they have machine called institutions it's like a fucking 'army' of the best minded people for 100 years oo gadaal ka shaqaya, adigu uma dhigantid, waxad tahay hal niin awood leh iska dhigayo, your not built like these nations inaad la hadashid ayaa gar dara ah, u shud be zoned in with ethiopia, kenya inaad la janqaado oo ku daysato markeedi hore oo ku dhaamo runti lakin iyaguna waa iska xaarka aduunka lakin it's not 4th world, its 3rd world, u need to follow jaranjarada kow waryaa before u speak to strong nations. Strong nations waxaa la dhaha 100 year institutions of their best ppl in positions oo iska dhaxlay cilmi, not AFRICAN STRONG MEN.

NAGA FARISO @Teeri-Alpha I FEEL LIKE SLAPPING U FOR BEING A NIGGA

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Chinese are the scariest thing to walk upright on this planet sxb.

The walled hermit state is a thing of the past. Their new strategy is to control the whole world to ensure that their interests are kept safe.

In South East Asia and Africa it would be rare to see a corporation or even a government say anything bad about them.

A decade ago in America and Europe they used to disparage China a lot but now things are starting to change with more companies staying in line.

They all want a piece of that huge Chinese economy.

Australia became their already with Chinese taking over their major industries.

Soon the world world would be under their influence and gradually we'll all be emasculated like the indhoyar living in hive cities.

They have this long game planned and it's a lot more sinister than the US big moves where you see them coming.

Today your country signs some development or trade deal with them and tomorrow your elites and government are dependent on them.

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even shythole Europe is already their

in 1978 EU had 38% of world GDP, today 14% of world GDP,

they are broke and are desperate for ch*nk market, massive youth unemployment, shrinking markets, massive debt, Europe is doomed thanks to their nanny state massive government

 

[Tukraq]

even shythole Europe is already their

in 1978 EU had 38% of world GDP, today 14% of world GDP,

they are broke and are desperate for ch*nk market, massive youth unemployment, shrinking markets, massive debt, Europe is doomed thanks to their nanny state massive government

just look at chinas massive rate of growth since then, while Europe was declining economically china and Japan are defiantly a level above Europe, militarily Japan embarrassed Russia pre WW1 and was the 2nd strongest country in WW2 after the US, these asians are formidable tbh, US was smart in getting Korea and Japan under them far more useful then all the money they spent on Europe during the Marshall plan since Europe is a negative investment

 

[DR OSMAN]

I wish I could 'draw' my vision because sometimes words doesn't capture it fully. I see 2 dollar niggas all over somalia like a huge 'pool' and I see 'second rate' leadership in front of the 'pool' and they form alliances to win parliament using 'charity donations from qatar or saudi' who is fighting over the 2 dollar nigga pool and how to 'slave' them. Your leaders actually have no institutions behind them with 100 year 'capacity' like the rest of the world, it's all NGO capacity, they don't even send you 'real academics or real govt experienced guys' from their 'institutions' kkkkk. It's up to you to set your nation up right. Your not set up like 'defence in depth' principle, your defence is 'first line' of elites and once gone your like Baghdad bob on TV, weak institutions taas bay keenta and the problem with strong man principle. They learned this the west after reading history of all strong men in europe and it all collapsed. They prefer the 'defence in depth' and spreading out the power in the instituion with 'light official elite' so if u get rid of them the front line their 'defence layers' are going to replace it in a second without any disruption. Where-as you will go into 'fowdo' cause the institutions are weak and no capacity because you all fight for tribal spots and you never add 'capacity' u leave after 4 years and they call that 'net loss' and they measure it over 100 years and your always a NIGGA to them and they dont even mention your name cause your not even competition.

 

[DR OSMAN]

This was your president for 4 years. Quranic teacher kkkkk. It's sunday school teacher sxb that u made president.

That's not bad idea if you had 'real institutions' like stron countries, but you don't since u follow the strong man principle or 'party' principle of elites, but the parties in australia are sitting on 100 year institution of the best minded, best trained, and best suited people for all their institutions, it's nothing like Somalia, your institutions are selected on clan reasons, you never get the best person for the job, u always leave 4 years with nothing like sharif. Farmajo will be no different. The problem is the lack of institutions, the president realizing his role is limited and LIGHT for security reason and to stock up in 'capacity' inside. Then 'spread' it thru federal structures so your now even more 'secure' then one point of collapse. Farmajo wants the siyad barre days, have you read his thesis, sxb ninkani hadu meel fican ka gaadhay america waxasi ma sheegeen. I work foreign affairs in technology space and security and SOMALIS have long way to go. U can't even agree on federalism, u still want the strong man shit which is what the whole world is running from due to security flaws of that system, they want everyone with 'limited' powers and spread thru local, regional, federal, thru institutions at each layer. Farmajo waxan uu roon iyo beesha sade sxb inay siyasada iskaga tagan 50 sano, and go build up capacity and knowledge not waste Somali time with 'sidad' jeceshay

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Teeri-Alpha East asians are like Ogadens niyahow. First security weeye, they lost the war, all their ppl study physics, chemistry, etc. The old generation I mean, maybe new generation will be different. But it doesnt look like it with their focus on 'cyber security'. North korea is identical, he dont give a f*ck about sanctions and being shut out from the world, he wants to come with a gus not a dirac first. Their not bad ppl as long as their not living in a world of hostage. China is next level shit to that but they also greedy though not as strict as north koreans who will prefer starving before losing their warrior status. Mongoolia waa aragta geesinimada kama tagayo awoowe buu lee yahay MONGOLS. He lives poor also, he doesnt care bro, it's about XINIYO FOR THEM FIRST AND THEN HORUMAR.

MJ ARE NOT AS STRICT AS OGS, WE WILL NEGIOTATE BEFORE WE DIE, WE WOULDNT ACCEPT HIROSHIMA WALLAHI BUT WE ALSO WANNA BE FREE, BUT NOT TO THE POINT OF 'XASUUQ' I SEE MY DAD FACE THEIR NOT INTERESTED IN WAR IN OFFENSIVE WAR ANYWAYS. PL IS PURE DEFENCE I KNOW THAT BY HISTORY AND EVEN NOW, WE DONT VENTURE OUT

Bro if my people surrendered easily, we would have have expanded massively over huge space, more than any tribe or ethnic group actually in Africa properly, i think we have more land than any ethnic single group or tribe, even in egpt and other arab nations in north africa are classed into many tribe, like bani hassan, bani tamimi etc across north africa, greeks, romans, even turkish blood, many masri have turkish blood,

we persevere a lot the Ogaden/Absame, if Ogaden was in puntland i think we would have conquered central somali and somaliland by now,

Allah tells us he doesn't burden one with problems they cannot handle, only what we can handle, i dont think any somali group would have survived being divided into 3 nations by the British and still fighting on,

yes MJ likes to make peace easy and negotiate, and Ogaden is by nature aggressive, expansionist, pushes on and willing to last longer,

but how did two cousins from sanaag develop such totally world philosophies?

one thing i am most proud of is how Ogaden is always willing to go to the last mile, keep pushing no matter what, like koreans, japanese,

certain groups are just more willing to push to last mile, Russians pushed massively against the nazi, the germans respected them, deep down the habahsi respect Ogaden, they know we are willing to push

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro if my people surrendered easily, we would have have expanded massively over huge space, more than any tribe or ethnic group actually in Africa properly, i think we have more land than any ethnic single group or tribe, even in egpt and other arab nations in north africa are classed into many tribe, like bani hassan, bani tamimi etc across north africa, greeks, romans, even turkish blood, many masri have turkish blood,

we persevere a lot the Ogaden/Absame, if Ogaden was in puntland i think we would have conquered central somali and somaliland by now,

Allah tells us he doesn't burden one with problems they cannot handle, only what we can handle, i dont think any somali group would have survived being divided into 3 nations by the British and still fighting on,

yes MJ likes to make peace easy and negotiate, and Ogaden is by nature aggressive, expansionist, pushes on and willing to last longer,

but how did two cousins from sanaag develop such totally world philosophies?

one thing i am most proud of is how Ogaden is always willing to go to the last mile, keep pushing no matter what, like koreans, japanese,

certain groups are just more willing to push to last mile, Russians pushed massively against the nazi, the germans respected them, deep down the habahsi respect Ogaden, they know we are willing to push

The Habashi haven't been Conquered, u never acknowledge this. Accept for some little couple of years by Italy, they kicked them out again. That is the only 'stain' on their history. PL was conquered from 1927, we lost the kingdom, it came down. Thru Italy attacking the capital at the sea and using Eritrean foot soldiers for coastal MJ.

While the interior niggas were paid off omar/hg marched towards Interior. That's why Hersi Boqor and my Awoowe were, after the defeat, they went to Ogadeniya and till today we still have some family I heard there, I am not sure. We tend to fight the hardest in 'defence' mode in PL, to protect PL from Invaders like Darawish, USC, Recently it was 'Shabab' at Suuj/Garmaal/Garacad.

But in all honesty they were on 'foot' and with 'ak.47' and we went in with an 'edge' armed vehicles, so I don't boast about that victory. I think they broke down maybe Shabab, insane coming to PL armed less then who you are attacking. I was very suspicious what happened there. They must of been trying to 'reach' somewhere else and found themselves in PL.

I don't consider shabab a military really, their more designed now for arab xafadaha hit n runs due to low support on the ground and people being 'strong tribalist' first and muslim second only. It's clearly not a Somali inspired project, it may have been by a Somali but his using foreign idealogy forth wat-ever purpose who knows but it's definitely not about securing victory, but maintaining the status quo. That's where I suspect HG as they have the most to lose with a government in the south noone else really as their in barawa, marka and farm lands that isn't there.

Plus with their bad history in civil war they may have fears of disempowerment and other clans becoming stronger. I just know their not interested in government, if so look at GM why is it still a vacuum like it was in 91? it hasn't changed since the americans last battled them kkkk in black hawk down, their still exactly where they are in terms of holding somalia down to 'chaos' disorder.