Somalia Ethiopia war

Som

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Nah, Of course it is not the same as the 2006 but Ethiopia was in worse place to defend itself. Ethiopia was in a civil war, victims estimated from 50k to 700k. You can't also compare the two armies, except the air force, the Soviets supplied the Somali army with modern weapons prior to the war. Ethiopia was caught fully unprepared and with a chaotic government which is kiling each other and in the middle of a civil war. EPRP that was the main rival of the government was highly popular. The government was in disarray when Somalia invaded. In fact Siad Barre's invasion ended the civil war because all Ethiopians stood behind the government when they see an outsider is invading. Mengistu should thank Siad Barre in that.
Yes , Ethiopia was going through extremely hard times but you guys also had a modern military that could be compared with the somali army.
Both countries were supplied by Soviets, Ethiopia also had yankee equipment from the Haile Selassis era. The soviet and the cuband intervened when they saw that somalia was about to win. Without the Soviet and Cuban intervention Somalia would have won the war, both countries suffered severe casualties and Ethiopia certainly fought well despite many difficulties but Somalia was on a stronger postion untill the Soviet-Cuban intervention. It's a fact. Anyway I'm not trying to be a nationalist here, despite being a supporter of greater somalia I believe Siad Barre did a very risky thing by starting the war and infact our country started to crumble when somalis became disillusioned after the conflict. Many generals turned against Siad Barre specifically because they were disappointed . At the end of day we lost the Ogaden war, no question about it
 

Som

VIP
Anyway guys the '77 war is the past
Ethiopians are conquering us as we speak.
Our martyrs who died for our people in 1977 would be rolling in their graves if the saw us right now.
The days when somalia was respected will come back , but we need unity and somalinimo not qabil politics.
 
Yes , Ethiopia was going through extremely hard times but you guys also had a modern military that could be compared with the somali army.
Both countries were supplied by Soviets, Ethiopia also had yankee equipment from the Haile Selassis era. The soviet and the cuband intervened when they saw that somalia was about to win. Without the Soviet and Cuban intervention Somalia would have won the war, both countries suffered severe casualties and Ethiopia certainly fought well despite many difficulties but Somalia was on a stronger postion untill the Soviet-Cuban intervention. It's a fact. Anyway I'm not trying to be a nationalist here, despite being a supporter of greater somalia I believe Siad Barre did a very risky thing by starting the war and infact our country started to crumble when somalis became disillusioned after the conflict. Many generals turned against Siad Barre specifically because they were disappointed . At the end of day we lost the Ogaden war, no question about it
No, Soviets started the supply after the invasion. Ethiopia was with the US but the US refused to supply arms because Jimmy Charter was angry that the Emperor was deposed. We were in no man's land without any backer until Barre's invasion and his expulsion of Soviets from Somalia. Anyway it is all the past and have a good night!
 

ibn Yahya Al-Sooli

Anti-Qabiilism & Anti-Nationalism
No, Soviets started the supply after the invasion. Ethiopia was with the US but the US refused to supply arms because Jimmy Charter was angry that the Emperor was deposed. We were in no man's land without any backer until Barre's invasion and his expulsion of Soviets from Somalia. Anyway it is all the past and have a good night!
Bro why you even on this site?
:umwhat:
 

Yahya

2020 GRANDMASTER
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What a imbecile.:dead:
You're missing the point. He knew he could without western support. Ethiopians wa naago.

I'd be embarrassed everyday if I was them knowing midget Cuban soldiers had to defend my land for me.

What happens if Europe is too busy to help and America is in a world war like they want with China and Iran recently? Who defends them then?

:mjlol: :heh:
 
The soviets wanted to start negotiations between Somalia and Ethiopia but Somalia rejectex
Yeah but It was the Soviets that said take the land you currently have and don't towards the highlands and Addis which Barre ignored, they switched to supporting Ethiopia with billions later
 

Som

VIP
Yeah but It was the Soviets that said take the land you currently have and don't towards the highlands and Addis which Barre ignored, they switched to supporting Ethiopia with billions later
Why would Siad Barre conquer the whole of Ethiopia? Somalia didn't have the resources to reach Addis and subjugate all of Ethiopia. Siad Barrd wasn't even interested in the highlands and his plan was to annex only the Somali speaking areas plus Harar.
The USSR joined Ethiopia when they realised somalia was about to win the war, their main concern was that Menghistu was at high risk of being overthrown if he lost Ogaden, he was also about to lose Eritrea so it was a very risky situation for him.
 

Diaspora ambassador

''Dagaalka gala'' Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali
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The fact that ahmed gurey reached their mountainous terrain so easily and made the emperor run naked for his life. Proves we always bested them without intervention.

:drakelaugh: :pachah1:

Let me add to the humiliation, after the conquest was over they shipped thousands of Ethiopians to be sold in india.

They did not only fight them raw meat eaters, the somali business sense kicked in and they made an fortune selling them.

I only got to this information when i saw a video about east african rulers in a part of india. They habesha journalist asked the researcher about the ethiopian connection to the east african rulers. (The ethiopians went to great lengths to uncover the possible ethiopian ancestry of the east african rulers in india, only to find out that they had Somali clan names)

The researcher told him no they where somali and they where the same people who sold thousands of ethiopian slaves to india kkkkkkkk.
 

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''Dagaalka gala'' Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali
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The us is since the year 2006 looking into two possibilities for the horn. Or a strong us ally or Somalia bordering the nile(meaning bye bye ethiopa as we know it).

If Ethiopia falls into civil war we might get that us support after all.
 

Yahya

2020 GRANDMASTER
VIP
The us is since the year 2006 looking into two possibilities for the horn. Or a strong us ally or Somalia bordering the nile(meaning bye bye ethiopa as we know it).

If Ethiopia falls into civil war we might get that us support after all.
Yamamoto already stated he needs our rare earth minerals. Trust me the US needs us or it's bye bye us and hello China and Russia.

The US needs a better ally than Saudi and more competent. Without our resources they only have the option of war, which currently does not favour them against the rising superpower alliance of China and Russia.
 
He gives victory to whom He wills, and He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful.

-Surah Ar-Rum, Ayah 5

The muslims will have the last laugh in this world and the hereafter.
 

Diaspora ambassador

''Dagaalka gala'' Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali
VIP
Yamamoto already stated he needs our rare earth minerals. Trust me the US needs us or it's bye bye us and hello China and Russia.

The US needs a better ally than Saudi and more competent. Without our resources they only have the option of war, which currently does not favour them against the rising superpower alliance of China and Russia.

It looks like that when somalia uniteds the west will officially support us.

This also explains why our neighbour's are butt hurt about the progress in somalia.

Our future forgein policy towards kenya must be the following: we help the nfd somalis rise to power in kenya.

I think that the ethiopian state will have been fallen when somalia is rebuild again. We must keep them in economical submission to realy rule east africa.
 

Yahya

2020 GRANDMASTER
VIP
It looks like that when somalia uniteds the west will officially support us.

This also explains why our neighbour's are butt hurt about the progress in somalia.

Our future forgein policy towards kenya must be the following: we help the nfd somalis rise to power in kenya.

I think that the ethiopian state will have been fallen when somalia is rebuild again. We must keep them in economical submission to realy rule east africa.
Depending on how egypt will react, then ethiopia will be busy for a while. Kenya we have a greater birth rate than them, so they will be overrun in a few decades if they cling onto NFD.

We will inshallah make progress. I will pray for it on laylut al qadr tonight.


:rejoice:
 

Diaspora ambassador

''Dagaalka gala'' Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali
VIP
Depending on how egypt will react, then ethiopia will be busy for a while. Kenya we have a greater birth rate than them, so they will be overrun in a few decades if they cling onto NFD.

We will inshallah make progress. I will pray for it on laylut al qadr tonight.


:rejoice:

One of the main reason why where are in this paralysed state, is because we have a backbone when united and we are all one ethnicity aka somali.

The west has been keeping kenya and erhiopia togheter, with the hope that the somalis will decimate their own population and their clan structures.

Little did they know that quite the opposite was bound to happen.

Now we are rising and ethiopia declining into an civil war and kenya sold herself to mama asia and dadda europe and can't keep up with her debt same goes for ethiopia. While almost every nation doesn't invest in somalia because of the instability.
 

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