Somalia isnt developing...what to do...

[Shushue]

Its pretty easy to achieve rising living standard.

They simply import western technology in production. They take loans by IMF or markets, or issue shares.

They dont have to invent the wheel or fertilizer, you simply copy somebody else. Thats how China got rich.

First, Somalia is poor because of old technology.

Secondly, the people are uneducated, they dont understand advanced technology, management and production.

They can achieve this by inviting Asian workers, in construction and business management and otherwise.

Both Somaliland and Puntland can achieve this, its very easy. There is no excuse.

 

[Ras]

What if the elites in charge don't want to develop?

Chaos suits them well.

 

[Shushue]

What if the elites in charge don't want to develop?

Chaos suits them well.

As i said there is no excuse.

 

[King Khufu]

As i said there is no excuse.

You don't live in Somlia, so you can't understand the understatement of how arrogantly this pisses me off.
Sure everybody can have cellphones but not industrial imports because entertainment through your phone is the new escapism that's making bank instead of using it as a proper tool to unify industrial needs.

What if the elites in charge don't want to develop?

Chaos suits them well.

Exactly!
If the elites in charge wanted a peaceful change that modernized the land they would invest into it. I pray for that day!
However, I don't want the western filth that comes from their idealism of industrial modern world to be an excuse for foreign invasion economically either.
We must modernize our technology for economic development while keeping the culture pure.

They dont have to invent the wheel or fertilizer, you simply copy somebody else. Thats how China got rich.

First, Somalia is poor because of old technology.

Secondly, the people are uneducated, they dont understand advanced technology, management and production.
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However I will highlight this part of the sentence because these points are PART of the problem / solution situation. So we do have some agreement.

 

[yaanyuur]

mining is the key to their success

 

[Mr.Haggis]

Have you seen dubai 30 or 40 years ago?

 

[Silky]

What if the elites in charge don't want to develop?

Chaos suits them well.

Depose them, but we won't do that because qabilism and traditions trap us with elders as leaders even if those elders are uneducated and dumb.
Before there was probably long line of traditional knowledge passed down that was a sort of institution, although the kacaan prolly destroyed that aswell so we're in an even worse posiion.

Fortunately we live in the information age so our potential for technological leapfrogging is there and one can only hope the youth can break through the obstacles of the old

 

[Western4Life]

Have you seen dubai 30 or 40 years ago?

The Gulf Arabs lick Western ass and worship their feet. This is why they are developed and rich. They are low IQ and the West took advantage of them.

Licking Arab ass only gets you terrorism.

 

[tumal]

The Gulf Arabs lick Western ass and worship their feet. This is why they are developed and rich. They are low IQ and the West took advantage of them.

Licking Arab ass only gets you terrorism.

Somalia needs to cut all contact with Arabs

 

[Ras]

Depose them, but we won't do that because qabilism and traditions trap us with elders as leaders even if those elders are uneducated and dumb.
Before there was probably long line of traditional knowledge passed down that was a sort of institution, although the kacaan prolly destroyed that aswell so we're in an even worse posiion.

Fortunately we live in the information age so our potential for technological leapfrogging is there and one can only hope the youth can break through the obstacles of the old

Depose them how?

Did you forget about the UN's weapon embargo on Somalia?

It isn't there to stop us from killing each other.

It's there to stop one of us from winning.

 

[Blade1]

http://amisom-au.org/2016/01/somali...nking-of-fastest-growing-cities-in-the-world/
The diaspora in the capital is making it grow very quickly. 2nd fastest growing city in the world.

 

[EDsomali]

The worst thing is that it's actually getting worse and were becoming poorer but our leaders and government and even ordinary people care more about Qabil then helping the people develop.

 

[Darawalka]

Have you ever thought you're average hooyo or awoowe who grew up in the colonial times or witnessed first hand how and what a modern somali state meant in the '70s-80s deep down don't want it back to that?

The truth is people back home are satisfied with what they have. They don''t want flashy cities, with boastful wealth, people back home who haven't been abroad, old generation that is, are satisfied with having enough to sustain themselves. A job to support their family, good health, and enough strength to pass on their culture on and see their grandkids. That's what most people don't get outside of Somalia, Somaliland, etc.

They are muslims, not perfect, but they know there is nothing to be gained from opening everything up like China and losing their proper culture. Remember, big part of being Somali is being a person satisfied with what they have and humble in their needs and wants. It's the nomadic way

 

[GeKo]

Norwegian somali you come across as snobby and pretentious in all your post. This is how I imagine you and most Somali scandinavians.

Majority of the time, ppl who live abroad can rarely fix the issues back home without creating other problems.

First love, live and learn with the ppl your always mentioning and get off your high horse.

 

[tesfey67n]

Its pretty easy to achieve rising living standard.

They simply import western technology in production. They take loans by IMF or markets, or issue shares.

They dont have to invent the wheel or fertilizer, you simply copy somebody else. Thats how China got rich.

First, Somalia is poor because of old technology.

Secondly, the people are uneducated, they dont understand advanced technology, management and production.

They can achieve this by inviting Asian workers, in construction and business management and otherwise.

Both Somaliland and Puntland can achieve this, its very easy. There is no excuse.

the main reason why the whole horn is broke is cuz people who live on the horn rely on the diaspora to send money, while they sit back and relax. nobody really looks for jobs or creates jobs, if you look in south Africa and the western world Somalis and Ethiopians are very successful.

 

[CangeeroBear]

What if the elites in charge don't want to develop?

Chaos suits them well.

Creative destruction, search it up saxib.
Elites never want progress however in Somalia the major inhibitor is the lack of centralisation.All innovation can't be secured as there is no guarantee of safety.

 

[Ras]

Creative destruction, search it up saxib.
Elites never want progress however in Somalia the major inhibitor is the lack of centralisation.All innovation can't be secured as there is no guarantee of safety.

It seems decentralised but it's actually controlled chaos.

Any large project would have to be green lighted by Addis Ababa or Nairobi regardless of what Tuulo you're in.

Otherwise some states would've started mining for iron or some other basic commodities by themselves.

Currently the biggest industry is tapping trees for Frankincense or livestock.

Either we haven't developed past the hunter gatherer stage or something is blocking any developments.

 

[CangeeroBear]

It seems decentralised but it's actually controlled chaos.

Any large project would have to be green lighted by Addis Ababa or Nairobi regardless of what Tuulo you're in.

Otherwise some states would've started mining for iron or some other basic commodities by themselves.

Currently the biggest industry is tapping trees for Frankincense or livestock.

Either we haven't developed past the hunter gatherer stage or something is blocking any developments.

Clans are blocking centralisation a lot of people don't understand this but every Somali person is pretty much an aristocrat , he has a say in the clan.We are on a higher inclusive portion then democratic governments.However Siad Barres government and regional governments tried to change it.Sufficient to say it didn't work.

 

[Ras]

Clans are blocking centralisation a lot of people don't understand this but every Somali person is pretty much an aristocrat , he has a say in the clan.We are on a higher inclusive portion then democratic governments.However Siad Barres government and regional governments tried to change it.Sufficient to say it didn't work.

Sure for small projects clan have a say in it.

However for this direct democracy in action you'll quickly learn that not every aristocrat is equal.

What happens when another larger sub clan is envious of what you have and wan to take it?

Both our local and national power structures are preventing development.

Not calling for a specific solution...Just pointing it out.