Somalia wins its airspace control battle ,ICAO to hand over in Rome

[embarassing]

she is crying about SL while her folk are working for Ethiopians and Kenyans. do you know the president of Kenya can go to Jubbaland without telling the gov in Mogadishu forget about asking permission with the full support of maamulka jubbalaband. These are the same folk talking and crying about SL all the time

She can talk about it what's the problrm. I think all ethnic Somalis can/should talk about things effecting ethnic Somalis regardless of where they're from. Yeah all those things are horrible and tragic and we can discuss them too I think SL just came up because of one guys comment about moving it to garowe or hargeisa.

I understand why it came up here but I agree from what I've seen on here in general it comes up too much.

I said what I said because based off the comments of yours I've read you seem very hateful.

 

[waraabe]

She can talk about it what's the problrm. I think all ethnic Somalis can/should talk about things effecting ethnic Somalis regardless of where they're from. Yeah all those things are horrible and tragic and we can discuss them too I think SL just came up because of one guys comment about moving it to garowe or hargeisa.

I understand why it came up here but I agree from what I've seen on here in general it comes up too much.

I said what I said because based off the comments of yours I've read you seem very hateful.

nope I am just a truth teller...

 

[Steamdevolopment]

you don't know about law

it was like the union between Egypt and Syria which was then dissolved

United Arab Republic

I only studied international law and it is subject to a presumption against statehood combined with strict criteria for recognition of statehood.

So far no state has recognized you in 26 years without a competing government. I fail to see how your claims have mereits.

For as far as the world knows your are an autonomous region of Somalia, and de-facto independence doesn't mean independence or guarantee that you'll ever get there.

 

[embarassing]

I have no clue, but some kind of Darood.

Because Puntland has been a major disruptive element in Somalia politics. Somaliland has always kept a wary distance from Xamar. So to say Somaliland can't be trusted only means she's a typical Fake nationalist.

Does it make her a fake nationalist to say that when we're specifically talking about Somalia's airspace though?

I don't see it, but mind you I don't know about maybe if you hold something she said in the past against here. Here I think it makes sense on this topic.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Somalia will never unite when it has fifth column fake Nationalists. They sell their land, honour and resources off to the lowest bidder then go "Look everybody, Somalidiid are against Somali interests."

It will take more than platitudes and fake sincerity to convince us.

I guess you'll see what you want to see. Like May who expected a 20 % landside

 

[Mohsin]

I agree so therefore SL should have air space in its own territories.

The Eritreans had a 40 year war with many casualties until they eventually had a referendum and independence. 26 years is nothing in the grand scheme of things. It's gonna be a hell of a fight. Perhaps in your lifetime you will see an independent Somaliland and the president of Somalia is gonna have to have talks with y'all instead of hearing around the bush.

ERITREA is different .They speak 9 Languages but Somaliland only one clan (Isaq) wants recognition ,Samaron and Darod are Unionist

 

[Prince Abubu]

Does it make her a fake nationalist to say that when we're specifically talking about Somalia's airspace though?

I don't see it, but mind you I don't know about maybe if you hold something she said in the past against here. Here I think it makes sense on this topic.

This thread has nothing to do with Somaliland. Why mention us?

 

[embarassing]

Somalia will never unite when it has fifth column fake Nationalists. They sell their land, honour and resources off to the lowest bidder then go "Look everybody, Somalidiid are against Somali interests."

It will take more than platitudes and fake sincerity to convince us.

You've just described the vast majority of our politicians regardless of region so don't say that as if it's the people of the region it's none of our faults.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

This thread has nothing to do with Somaliland. Why mention us?

You are only competing for control of air-traffic and protesting that the federal government gain control? It is directly relevante and one of the reasons it took so long to get here.

 

[Prince Abubu]

You are only competing for control of air-traffic and protesting that the federal government gain control? It is directly relevante and one of the reasons it took so long to get here.

Competing for what is already ours? Airspace is the last of your problems, nobody's scrambling to travel to Somalia. I'd be more worried at the depletion of your oceanic resources by foreign fishing vessels.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Competing for what is already ours? Airspace is the last of your problems, nobody's scrambling to travel to Somalia. I'd be more worried at the depletion of your oceanic resources but foreign fishing vessels.

Now who is brining issues that are irrelevant into the discussion?


All those things are important but not relevant expect for deflection, nice try though You see this @embarassing?

You don't have an established air-traffic control authority, which is governed by International convention which a unrecognized region is not subject too. Therefore you are competing for something that has yet to even be established as yours, you thinking it is yours and international society agreeing is two different things.

 

[embarassing]

This thread has nothing to do with Somaliland. Why mention us?

Someone said something about moving the base to garowe or hargeisa and she responded why she disagrees on both but people jumped on the one about SL .

Also something about Somaliland vying for control of it.

 

[Prince Abubu]

Semantics don't concern me. Just as Somaliland is an "imaginary country", our air traffic control is also fantasy. Yet we have full control of every inch of our land and Cheeseboy can't leave one district of Xamar.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Semantics don't concern me. Just as Somaliland is an "imaginary country", our air traffic control is also fantasy. Yet we have full control of every inch of our land and Cheeseboy can't leave one district of Xamar.

Then I guess you won't mind Somalia have control of the air-space, I guess your planes can do without :siilaanyosmile:

 

[Lordilord]

This means absolutely nothing as Somalia can't enforce that airspace. If they want to land in any of the government controlled airports in Somaliland they will be denied without the approval of the aviation authorities in Hargeisa.

There has been a previous UN flight that wanted to land in Somaliland, Egal International Airport with authorization from the Somalia federal government-SFG in Mogadishu. They were refused landing by the Somaliland government and they went back to Djibouti. Any and every flight to Somaliland receives authorization from the Somaliland aviation authority.

Somalia has no control over Somaliland whatsoever. You think Somalia can enforce Somaliland on anything let alone Somaliland airspace??? With what army? The puny 12k soldiers in Mogadishu that is having trouble fighting al-shabaab? Somaliland alone has 7+ times larger army than Somali Armed Forces. Yaaaaab!!


Every day there is fake propaganda bullshit against Somaliland on this forum. Keep taking L's.

 

[Abdalla]

So what are the consequences of this new development? This is a charade for the public, SL and SFG are in bed with each other. The Berbera deal proved their intimate relationship.

 

[Gambar]

Puntland basically acts as an independent country by negotiating foreign deals and visiting other heads of state and refusing to pay into the Federal government, and also being non-constructive with creating a constitution as they want an out-seized representation, and they are also a major stopping block to recognize other new states because it is not in their interets.

Mogadishu needs to get its shit together until then

Stop scapegoating Puntland. Puntland puts Puntland interests first because the government is still a mess. If you don't have your house in order don't expect us to wait around.

Stop being xasid and expecting us to be in the messy pot too. We can all come together when each individual region gets itself in order.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

So what are the consequences of this new development? This is a charade for the public, SL and SFG are in bed with each other. The Berbera deal proved their intimate relationship.

I see this as a positive move to reclaim sovereignty back to Somalia, a first step in many.

The consquence is that Somali authorities can soon charge a fee for use of air-space instead of having another forreign body do it.

 

[Gambar]

ERITREA is different .They speak 9 Languages but Somaliland only one clan (Isaq) wants recognition ,Samaron and Darod are Unionist

I hear this thrown a lot. Are Samaroon really unionist? Wasn't the second president and Vice President Samaroon? Do they not play a major role in Somaliland? Some of them said they were pro union i.e. Ahmed Samatar but he went back to being a lander.

 

[Lordilord]

I see this as a positive move to reclaim sovereignty back to Somalia, a first step in many.

The consquence is that Somali authorities can soon charge a fee for use of air-space instead of having another forreign body do it.

What sovereignty??? This means nothing, it doesn't affect Somaliland in the slightest as they are still in control of who can land there?? There is no enforcing this.