Somalia's foreign ministry connects Somaliland to Al-Shabab: Somaliland responds

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BANTU

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@Abdalla

You're speaking from a qabilist point of view. I can no longer continue this topic with you. Until you bring better proof.
Read the pdf he linked earlier.

The former leader of ASNE was Harti (his cousin)

The head of Intelligence is Majeerteen

There's another Harti leader

A leader that's "a native of Puntland"

A Warsengeli

And a couple other Darood

BREAKING NEWS: Darood fund Al Shabaab
 

Abdalla

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Let the record show that I've defeated @Gucci mane like Chelsea defeats the weak Yids.

Yesterday I made @Salaah Bidaar cry to the point he wished Al-shabaab nuked Puntland :icon lol:

Who's next?
 

Abdalla

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@Gucci mane this is for you

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Somalia Business Law Handbook Volume 1 Strategic Information and Basic Laws page 54.

 

Thegoodshepherd

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You're giving way to much credit to an autonomous nation sxb. You think a country like somaliland can afford funding al shabaab?

Somaliland does not fund Alshabab. it simply looks the other way when its members transit through its territory or when its people go over to join Alshabab. Somaliland sees it to be in its interest to shunt its radicalized youth into Puntland and South Central. It occasionally even sends its highest tribal leaders to get their terrorists freed.

The over representation of people from Somaliland in Alshabab is no coincidence, it is a result of this tactic. Btw this does not end well, ask Saudi Arabia.
 
Puntland releasing suspected Alshabab members.
Puntland catch-and-release policy 39.
In its final report for 2014, the Monitoring Group described the systematic policy adopted by the Puntland Administration of arresting suspected Al-Shabaab members only to be released, and in some cases where overwhelming evidence had strongly suggested a credible Al-Shabaab link (S/2014/726, annex 1.4, footnote 48).

40. During the current mandate, the Monitoring Group uncovered documentary evidence, corroborated by observations from secondary sources, that the Puntland authorities continue to employ a “catch-and-release” policy, whereby detained individuals are set free, notwithstanding credible evidence of ties to Al-Shabaab. The Group has obtained copies of release orders for seven Al-Shabaab suspects and convicts dated between June 2015 and 16 April 2016, signed by various senior Puntland officials. The Group also has in its possession internal notes from within the Puntland Intelligence Agency profiling each individual and outlining his affiliation with Al-Shabaab.

According to Puntland officials, the Al-Shabaab convicts had been freed after legitimate court processes and the suspects had been released either owing to a lack of evidence or on account of an amnesty announced by the Puntland President, Abdiweli Mohamed Ali “Gaas” in August 2015.20

ISIL IN PUNTLAND COMPOSED MOSTLY OF LOCALS

However, it is difficult to disentangle the strength Mumin’s ISIL movement from Puntland clan dynamics, namely the longstanding opposition of his Ali Salebaan clan to the traditional ruling clans in Puntland. By remaining in the Ali Salebaan homeland in Bari region, Mumin has effectively shielded his small pro -ISIL faction from the reach of the central authorities.

7. In addition to Mumin, the Monitoring Group has identified two other leaders in Puntland’s ISIL faction. Mahad Moalim (Majeerteen/Ali Salebaan) is currently serving as Mumin’s deputy in Bari region, having defected from Al-Shabaab in December 2015.8 Moalim is perhaps responsible for facilitating the arrival of fighters from Yemen into Somalia, as well as the importing of arms. 9 Prior to joining Mumin’s ISIL faction, Moalim had been assigned as the deputy head of finance for Al-Shabaab Northeast (ASNE) in the Golis Mountains, under thenemir Bashir Shire Maxamed.10

8. Another high-ranking member of Mumin’s faction is Abdihakim Dhuqub (Ali Salebaan/Ismail Ali), a former schoolteacher. In its 2013 report, the Monitoring Group identified Dhuqub as a cousin of Abdulqadir Mumin and a member of Al-Shabaab operating in Bari region.11 It also reported that Dhuqub was involved in the creation in 2004 of the first Bosaso cell of Al-Itihaad al-Islamiya (AIAI), an ideological forerunner to Al-Shabaab.12
(a) Omar Mohamed Aden (Issaq/Haber Jaalo): Emir of ASNE
(b) Mohamed Abdullahi Batar (Dir/Gadabursi): Aden’s deputy and overall head of military operations of ASNE
(c) Bashir Shire Maxamed (Deshishe): former manager in Golis Telecom, 2002-2012, ex-MP, worked at Golis’ predecessor, Barkad prior to 2002
(d) Mohamed Ahmed Haji a.k.a. Kuwait (Majeerteen/Osman Mohamud): Leader of the Amniyat, director of intelligence for ASNE.
(e) Ali Ahmed Hassan “Ga’amey” (Harti/Tinle): involved in the creation in 2004 of the first Bosaso cell of Al-Itihaad al-Islamiya (AIAI), an ideological forerunner to Al-Shabaab.37As of February 2016, “Ga’amey” is reported to be based in the village of Madarshoon.
(f) Mukhtar Abdinur Ahmed a.k.a. Ahmed Guray: ASNE military commander; captured in Garowe 25 December 2014 while fleeing south from the Golis Mountains. 38 Puntland authorities reportedly later released Guray as part of an amnesty programme.
(g) Hassan Abdullahi a.k.a. Hamas (Hawiye/Hawadle) part of an ASNE tasked with eliminating Mumin’s faction in Qandala/ Beledediin, Bari region (h) Ali Macane (Issaq/Haber Jaalo): from Burao, Somaliland; other details currently unknown
(i) Yasin Mohamud Abdi: head of an ASNE force in Bari region (unconfirmed)
(j) Abdullahi Saxiibow (Issaq/Haber Yunis): leader of a logistics/ transportation team based near Erigavo (Daallo Mountain)
(k) Harun Dheere: native of Puntland; other details currently unknown
(l) Hassan Afgoye: Member of Al-Shabaab’s Shura Council and head of its Finance Department. On 20 November 2015, the US Department of State offered up to a USD 5 million bounty for information on the whereabouts of Afgoye.39 Although multiple SEMG sources have placed Afgoye in the Golis Mountains during this mandate, his exact role within ASNE is currently not understood.
(m) Yassin Khalid Osman “Kilwe” (Warsangeli/Dubeis/Hanif): close relative of former Al-Shabaab emir Ahmed Godane. Sent to the Golis Mountains in early 2010 by Godane with 40 fighters to assume the leadership of Mohamed Said Atom’s insurgency. 40 Since 2014 “Kilwe” no longe
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

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And? Are you going to ignore the other Harti members and the fact many were released by Puntland Authorities??
I don't give a f*ck if they are Chinese, it literally says the leader and deputy leader are from Somaliland how are you going to deny the obvious? At least be like @Saalax Bidaar and wish us harm, get over with it get it out of your system :jaynerd:
 
I don't give a f*ck if they are Chinese, it literally says the leader and deputy leader are from Somaliland how are you going to deny the obvious? At least be like @Saalax Bidaar and wish us harm, get over with it get it out of your system :jaynerd:


And the retarded underlings are Harti...What does that tell you about your clansmen? They're willing to take orders from a shisheeye to

blow up Bosaso and massacre their own people. What happened to that MJ loyalty I see some of you here boast about? :)

Fact is the ones facilitating their attacks and harboring these guys and crowning them as their leaders are Harti. It has nothing to do with

Somaliland just like the southerners took in Godane as their Emir and did his dirty work for him.

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BANTU

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Somaliland does not fund Alshabab. it simply looks the other way when its members transit through its territory or when its people go over to join Alshabab. Somaliland sees it to be in its interest to shunt its radicalized youth into Puntland and South Central. It occasionally even sends its highest tribal leaders to get their terrorists freed.

The over representation of people from Somaliland in Alshabab is no coincidence, it is a result of this tactic. Btw this does not end well, ask Saudi Arabia.
Maybe if you paid your soldiers you'd have better "national" defense and you wouldn't scapegoat a government that can and does :kanyeshrug:
 

Saalax Bidaar

Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
Let the record show that I've defeated @Gucci mane like Chelsea defeats the weak Yids.

Yesterday I made @Salaah Bidaar cry to the point he wished Al-shabaab nuked Puntland :icon lol:

Who's next?
:bell:

I retracted that statement about nuking your enclave. That would be waste of good nuke :chrisfreshhah:
 
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Abdalla

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I retracted that statement about nuking your enclave. That would be waste of good nuke :chrisfreshhah:

Kkkkkkkkk I retracted that statement kulaha. You got emotional in the heat of the moment. FKD is like chess, one bad move and your king is caught between the knight and the bisschop

The oday in the left caught his opponent slipping and his opponent realises he just fucked up.
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