My favourite isaaq subclan is the Garxaajis. They should leave successionists and join us.
Garxaajis Kablalax is their new abtirsi
Garxaajis Kablalax is their new abtirsi
Somaliland and Somalia should be one from a lander
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Look what you're saying, filled with ignorance, do you know how life was like under afweyne in Somaliland.
The insurgency of the SNM was the last straw of the people. While people in xamar were enjoying their secular lives, in the North:
- you couldn't build more than a single storey
- anything you brought from outside was taken to Xamar
- recurring arrest for going out at night
- police and army harrasing people and taking their belongings
I'll give you one account and many can confirm
During the bombing of Burco, the army called out to all non isaaq residents to flee the city putting them all on buses and cars. Once the last resident was evacuated the bombing began leaving no building
When they saw people who remained fleeing they focused fire on where the people were.
Another extract:
When the people left their homes, they left in stock a haste b that some were barely clothed some with one sandal or no - they had to bury their possession Infront of their house and when the army found it they stole it and planned land mines in its place. Allot more people lost their lives simply trying to digup their belongings
There's many more incidence recorded but I haven't the time.
Eid Mubarak my brother
Does Somalia have a border dispute with SL or is it claiming Somaliland as a whole. Don’t mix your darood goals with national goals.
Nobody did. We're all hopefully well aware of the small minority who unfortunately do.
I'm not Warsangeli but whatever you say
Im Garxajis
The alchemist
VIP
'Somalia' is an illusion of unity. People's true loyalty is within the internal division, i.e. qabil. This ideology of kinship corrupts everything we try to build, Somalis know this, but they don't know how to change because they see it as a vital part of their traditions and would rather regress coping with reality than evolve to something more functional.
Somali clans operate exactly like different ethnic groups, making this "one people" notion, a false statement. Somali nationalism only relied on the opposition to colonialism and was never built properly, and miscalculated the divisive power of traditional political heritage, which explains why it fragmented so easily.
In other words, the whole thing was reactively strengthened by an external entity, and Somalis never bothered to forge an ethnic identity to sustain the nationalistic aims. I don't understand why people think genetically based political identities can function under the same roof and expect it to run smoothly. It's delusional.
What we need to understand is all this is social engineering that we've conditioned ourselves with, there are no visible markers between people from different clans, and despite its powerful construction, it's very easy to solve.
Despite clan affiliation, Somalis speak the same language, believe in the same religion, and relied on the same subsistence for millennia, and have the same culture.
I think we'll have fewer dependants on segmentary affiliation as economic growth improves people's lives, but there needs to be an active process of indoctrination through education to tackle it from different dimensions.
Somali clans operate exactly like different ethnic groups, making this "one people" notion, a false statement. Somali nationalism only relied on the opposition to colonialism and was never built properly, and miscalculated the divisive power of traditional political heritage, which explains why it fragmented so easily.
In other words, the whole thing was reactively strengthened by an external entity, and Somalis never bothered to forge an ethnic identity to sustain the nationalistic aims. I don't understand why people think genetically based political identities can function under the same roof and expect it to run smoothly. It's delusional.
What we need to understand is all this is social engineering that we've conditioned ourselves with, there are no visible markers between people from different clans, and despite its powerful construction, it's very easy to solve.
Despite clan affiliation, Somalis speak the same language, believe in the same religion, and relied on the same subsistence for millennia, and have the same culture.
I think we'll have fewer dependants on segmentary affiliation as economic growth improves people's lives, but there needs to be an active process of indoctrination through education to tackle it from different dimensions.
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Everyone make this pledge, to never make any post that in any way offends another or use language to imply and insha'Allah it will be reciprocated and will return this forum into something positive rather than what it is now just tribal talk and pointless back n forth arguments which in all honesty benefits know one.
Horta change your dp pleaseIm Garxajis
so what is your solution to this problem
Horta change your dp please
Also you know these niggas aren’t nationalists but just tribes that are competing with other tribes. If you’re saying things like why don’t we all secede then you’re not a nationalist. On what grounds would you secede you never united with anyone you’re from Somalia your independence is 1st of July and why do you even want to secede. If you want to Why is that based on Somaliland. People just see it as isaaq want to secede so why don’t we. Nigga if you want to secede just say it no ones forcing you
Neither will somalia. They will never get of the arms embargo. They will never be able to take out a loan. And a plethora of other things they need. We have peace atleast and we are industrialising now. We can wait 100 years but somalia will be wilting soon as the money on the table for a comprehensive agreement will be too tempting for their politicians.
Walaal I’ve lost hope to be honest for years I fought for Union, but I recently acknowledged that we have deep rooted issues with qabiil that we can’t look past no matter which direction we go. Too much has happened in the last 30 years.
Hargeisa looked like shit 30 years ago, still looks like shit today. You had no independence 30 years ago you still have no independence, learn when to throw the towel in. The biggest problem with Somalis in general is arrogance and stubbornness. South or north y’all have nothing to be proud of, waa qaashin wherever you go! We are last in every list in the world, poverty, safety, corruption etc but If Rwanda can overcome its genocide so can we but it will take healing and educating our people to overcome this
ibn Yahya Al-Sooli
Anti-Qabiilism & Anti-Nationalism
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Well if you don't know you shouldn't make this thread. SLAND has supporters in all 6 regions.
Lord Flacko
VIP
"Investment plan"
They would own everything and it will trickle down to a psuedocolonialism under the guise of corporatism and Khaleejis trying to look good. Local Somali rulers are both inept and corrupt, and you along with them.
You should have seen Hobyo and their port. First off they were in bed with the Chinese, and my fucking sides I've seen people defending the ugly and useless star design put forth. But instead, Hobyo got in bed with the Qatari which is equally bad. Mind you I'm reer Hobyo but not a blind bootlicker.
I fucking despise any indhoyar or Khaleeji business in any part of Somaliweyn. It's all evil, and I don't trust any leader to not be used and fucked like a prostitute as long as they look good to the gullible public while lining their pockets.
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