Somaliland foreign minister: "Our children are dying because we don't have recognition"

[Prince of Lasanod]

-$350 million in aid between 2015-2017
-Airport, port and border revenues
-Taxes

And yet your children are dying because you don't have recognition? What would change if you got recognition other than more looting?

 

[Mercury]

Sure Independence is gonna open for more Aid money But I doubt it Will do any good with all the corruption going on and people taking funds without 0 Accountability as of now the only reason Somaliland politicians want aid is more for personal reasons

If they cared about the country they would postpone independcy and focus on developing the country

 

[Bohol]

Sure Independence is gonna open for more Aid money But I doubt it Will do any good with all the corruption going on and people taking funds without 0 Accountability as of now the only reason Somaliland politicians want aid is more for personal reasons

If they cared about the country they would postpone independcy and focus on developing the country

Bingo. Those politicians are only after filling their pockets.

 

[Mercury]

Bingo. Those politicians are only after filling their pockets.

Thats the truth people dont wanna realize Im suprised people praising them when they doing bare minimum

 

[Bohol]

Thats the truth people dont wanna realize Im suprised people praising them when they doing bare minimum

Yep. The difference is some people have woken up (no longer believe in delusions) while some are still stuck in the delusions. Somali politicians in general are out for themselves and not in the great interest of the civilians.

 

[Mercury]

Yep. The difference is some people have woken up (no longer believe in delusions) while some are still stuck in the delusions. Somali politicians in general are out for themselves and not in the great interest of the civilians.

People should wake up for instance if Somaliland did business with Somalia we could profit from it

And IF the Khat was Taxed 50% they could get alot from it But I bet the big khat dealers dont want that to happen so they bribe em

 

[Lordilord]

There has been a lot of improvements, there are roads. For energy solutions, UAE just finished the largest dam in the whole region which will provide energy for a lot of people. Many of the issues with energy will be solved when the GERD(Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam) starts generating. They will export electricity for very low costs so the high inflated energy prices that is currently within Somaliland will be much lower. Making it easier for many more people to have electricity. There will be up to $1bn of investments in development for the military base but primarily the port concession.

You can't mask your intentions with these threads you make about Somaliland, it is so obvious and you are so deep into your big fat lie you can't see it yourself. You talk a lot of bullshit and because no one has called you out doesn't mean I won't. If you were really addressing the issues of Somaliland would I be saying this then? You are making a fool out of yourself.

Yes, Somaliland is not perfect but it is in a far better position than Somalia. It must hurt you to read that but guess what I don't care. Face reality. If you want a productive thread talking about the bad things in Somaliland go ahead but you are not doing that. You make a thread and it's the same thing over and over again. Look at the threads you have made. You have issues.

 

[Lordilord]

@Prince of Lasanod It is not all about aid you are so dumb it almost spreads. You guys are still stuck on aid money. Recognition will help Somaliland be self sufficient. Recognition opens a new world of possibilities. Which is far better than your guys hope for "Greater Somalia". Who are you fooling but yourself?

Wishful thinking is the basis of your comments, it is pathetic. You think Somalia which is having trouble with maintaining peace in Mogadishu can take back the annexed areas in Ethiopia? You think Somalia can take back Djibiouti????? What is Somalia's excuse for not moving forward?
Somaliland as a country has surpassed Somalia in so many ways it is not even funny this is the case for Puntland as well.

This is what truly hurts you and even some of you pathetic haters are hating on Puntland.

Puntland which doesn't want to secede and wants to be a part of Somalia has made great improvements and you bash on them continuously. Maybe not specifically YOU but there is a special theme going on here in this forum. It's either Somaliland or Puntland so please STFU.

If you have something you want to discuss like a NORMAL human being and without clouded judgement then by all means let us have a productive thread.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

@Prince of Lasanod It is not all about aid you are so dumb it almost spreads. You guys are still stuck on aid money. Recognition will help Somaliland be self sufficient. Recognition opens a new world of possibilities. Which is far better than your guys hope for "Greater Somalia". Who are you fooling but yourself?

Wishful thinking is the basis of your comments, it is pathetic. You think Somalia which is having trouble with maintaining peace in Mogadishu can take back the annexed areas in Ethiopia? You think Somalia can take back Djibiouti????? What is Somalia's excuse for not moving forward?
Somaliland as a country has surpassed Somalia in so many ways it is not even funny.

This is what truly hurts you and even some of you pathetic haters are hating on Puntland.

Puntland which doesn't want to secede and wants to be a part of Somalia has made great improvements and you bash on them continuously. Maybe not specifically YOU but there is a special theme going on here in this forum. It's either Somaliland or Puntland please so please STFU.

If you have something you want to discuss as a NORMAL human being and without clouded judgement then by all means let us have a productive thread. It's pathetic.

The anti-corruption official for Somaliland resigned saying that nothing can be changed because corruption is so entrenched in the system where everybody steals from top to bottom.

https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2017/May/wararka_maanta5-141024.htm

The revenue+aid Somaliland received/made between 2015-2017 was around $1b, yet where is this money? Even 5 % of that money hasn't been invested inside Somaliland. Even the $3 million for droughts raised was stolen. Do you think that the hopeless citizens of Somaliland are fleeing and would rather die in the sea en route to Europe for nothing? It's time to get your head out of your ass and accept your government for what it is. Because if you won't, then I can't imagine how the millions of people suffering under these corrupt people will.

 

[Lordilord]

The anti-corruption official for Somaliland resigned saying that nothing can be changed because corruption is so entrenched in the system where everybody steals from top to bottom.

https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2017/May/wararka_maanta5-141024.htm

The revenue+aid Somaliland received/made between 2015-2017 was around $1b, yet where is this money? Even 5 % of that money hasn't been invested inside Somaliland. Even the $3 million for droughts raised was stolen. Do you think that the hopeless citizens of Somaliland are fleeing and would rather die in the sea en route to Europe for nothing? It's time to get your head out of your ass and accept your government for what it is.

Give me the sources for your claims. And no a fake somali website won't cut it. I can see through you with ease bro, you are full of it. There is some issues with corruption yes but Somaliland has still surpassed Somalia in so many ways. That he resigned is not news. Gtfo

 

[Bohol]

People should wake up for instance if Somaliland did business with Somalia we could profit from it

And IF the Khat was Taxed 50% they could get alot from it But I bet the big khat dealers dont want that to happen so they bribe em

All that will come but first we must crackdown on corruption (that is the root case
of most problems in Sland). Hundreds of millions of dollars are pocketed by some
politicians in Sland and now they cry "our children wouldn't die if you recognized
us". I guess greed has no limit with those people.

 

[Lordilord]

All that will come but first we must crackdown on corruption (that is the root case of most problems in Sland).

Yes because there is no fear to take money into their own pockets. The anti-corruption officials need higher authority to take them to court. As of now they don't have that which is sad. This will come in time. Although this does not justify their actions, our corrupt leaders have one thing in common they still make sure there is some development. Their head is in the game. This will have to do for now until there is a justice system in place for these individuals. It's better than nothing.

 

[Mercury]

@Prince of Lasanod It is not all about aid you are so dumb it almost spreads. You guys are still stuck on aid money. Recognition will help Somaliland be self sufficient. Recognition opens a new world of possibilities. Which is far better than your guys hope for "Greater Somalia". Who are you fooling but yourself?

Wishful thinking is the basis of your comments, it is pathetic. You think Somalia which is having trouble with maintaining peace in Mogadishu can take back the annexed areas in Ethiopia? You think Somalia can take back Djibiouti????? What is Somalia's excuse for not moving forward?
Somaliland as a country has surpassed Somalia in so many ways it is not even funny this is the case for Puntland as well.

This is what truly hurts you and even some of you pathetic haters are hating on Puntland.

Puntland which doesn't want to secede and wants to be a part of Somalia has made great improvements and you bash on them continuously. Maybe not specifically YOU but there is a special theme going on here in this forum. It's either Somaliland or Puntland so please STFU.

If you have something you want to discuss like a NORMAL human being and without clouded judgement then by all means let us have a productive thread.

Whats pathetic is begging for independency every year

These politicians dont care about the country if they believe in the education in the country than why are all their kids studying in Unis abroad?

The high unemployment can be lowered if they invest in factories and put High taxes on all imported food from other countries and instead grow our own food

Stop collecting aid whenever a drought occurs and instead of begging come up with solutions in case of drought happening


They should focus on doing their job as a politician instead of being Busy begging

 

[Bohol]

Well said @Mercury

 

[Lordilord]

Whats pathetic is begging for independency every year

These politicians dont care about the country if they believe in the education in the country than why are all their kids studying in Unis abroad?

The high unemployment can be lowered if they invest in factories and put High taxes on all imported food from other countries and instead grow our own food

Stop collecting aid whenever a drought occurs and instead of begging come up with solutions in case of drought happening


They should focus on doing their job as a politician instead of being Busy begging

"These politicians dont care about the country if they believe in the education in the country than why are all their kids studying in Unis abroad?"

Did you really just ask that? Peace out.

 

[Mercury]

"These politicians dont care about the country if they believe in the education in the country than why are all their kids studying in Unis abroad?"

Did you really just ask that? Peace out.

Its simple if someone believes in something than they Will support it

For example Theres a restaurant that gives people food But the owner never eats in his restaurant because he thinks it tastes shit

Its shady

 

[Lordilord]

Its simple if someone believes in something than they Will support it

For example Theres a restaurant that gives people food But the owner never eats in his restaurant because he thinks it tastes shit

Its shady

That people go abroad to study is not a bad thing, it further validates their education. An education from a western country holds more value in some cases compared to educations in Africa, South America and so forth. Not particularly because of the quality of education. If you don't understand that then how can we even have a discussion. Again, Peace out!

 

[Mercury]

That people go abroad to study is not a bad thing, it further validates their education. An education from a western country holds more value in some cases compared to educations in Africa, South America and so forth. Not particularly because of the quality of education. If you don't understand that then how can we even have a discussion. Again, Peace out!

Shows the education there holds no value why else do you think theres alot of incompetent people working in politics

Over there Qabiil paves ways

 

[Lordilord]

Shows the education there holds no value why else do you think theres alot of incompetent people working in politics

Over there Qabiil paves ways

OR because it is not a recognized state and because it's in Africa. Also do you think an education from Somalia or Nigeria will hold much value in western worlds???? I meant in general it's because of the white supremacist that view countries like that with low probative education.

You make absolutely no sense. I can't have a serious discussion with you.

 

[Mercury]

OR because it is not a recognized state and because it's in Africa. Also do you think an education from Somalia or Nigeria will hold much value in western worlds???? I meant in general it's because of the white supremacist that view countries like that with low probative education.

You make absolutely no sense. I can't have a serious discussion with you.

Whats the point of parents paying for their kids school and uni when they aint gonna land a job anyway