Somaliland Petitions for Statehood
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Because their not delusional. all they see is somalis claiming their different from other somalis based on fairytales of them being low-key arab.
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WHY SOMALILAND HAS NOT BEEN RECOGNIZED BY A SINGLE COUNTRY FOR A QUARTER CENTURY
The situation surrounding SL has arguably been one of the most contentious issues in Somali history since the Northern Somalia territory self declared it's independence amidst the Somali civil war which came as a surprise to many,A surprise because prior to SL separatism movement no other Somali territory harbored separatism tendencies quite contrary Somalis believed the horn of Africa was a single country so strong was this feeling Somalia invaded Ethiopia in 1977 to reclaim the Ogaden region which was wrongfully put under Ethiopian rule by the British colonizers this is a whole different topic altogether so i wont get much into it but moving on to the topic at hand these are some of the most crucial reasons SL will not be achieving recognition anytime soon.I will use the youngest nation in Africa South Sudan as a reference and how it was able to gain international recognition immediately after it's formation so bear with me;
1.PEOPLE
This is arguably one of the most important factors a separatism movement has to fulfill in it's quest for international recognition in the sense that it has to convince the international world they are completely different from the people they wish to separate from by race,religion,language etc SL does not full fill this condition because all ethnic Somalis generally make up one tribe that speaks the same language and furthermore share a religion on the other hand South Sudan managed to fulfill this condition perfectly because they were of a different race,religion and language from the Sudanese people which made their road to recognition a smooth one.
2.ACT OF UNION
This is another important factor a separatist movement can use in their quest for secession by simply proving they never signed an act of union from the region they want to separate from or were even forced or pressured to sign it but in the case of Somalia this is a very different scenario as both North and South Somalia willingly and unilaterally signed an act of union without any military pressure whatsoever amidst pomp and celebrations so once again SL falls short in this category NOTE some people might try to find faults in the act of union to work it on their favor but these can be rightfully termed as being opportunistic or fanatics but the main point is an act of union exist which the international world used to recognize Somalia as a single country after the union.Union:
1. (a) The State of Somaliland and the State of Somalia do hereby unite and shall forever remain united in a new, independent, democratic, unitary republic the name whereof shall the SOMALI REPUBLIC.
(b) The Capital of the Somali Republic shall be Mogadiscio.(Take note of the word ''FOREVER'')
3.DIFFERENCE IN POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES
This is one of the easiest routes a separatist movement is usually founded on this led to breakup of the USSR,a separatist movement simply needs to prove they have very contrasting political ideologies with the region they wish to separate from and wait to be recognized by other countries which share a common political ideology for instance SL might argue it's a communist state and wish to separate from Somalia a capitalist state this would see SL being recognized by other countries that are communist such as North Korea Lol this assumption is not true of course in reality the whole of Somalia regions believe in a capitalist ideology and mix of secular and sharia law as the basic political foundation so once again SL fails to differentiate itself from the rest of Somalia making the international world look at it as just another autonomous region in Somalia.
These are some of the most basic facts as to why SL has never been recognized by a single country since they self declared independence although this might hurt some people i can categorically tell you SL will never be recognized call me a ''hater'' or a ''pessimist'' but that is the simple unedited truth and is backed by SL consistently getting 00% recognition for a quarter century.
What Somali people need to realize is reconciliation is the best way forward Somalia is not Muqdishu or Bosaso alone it's a collection of great Somali cities such as Hargeysa,laascanod,Bosaso,Kismayo etc and most importantly our historic and ancient capital city Muqdishu for Somalia to come back to what it was it has to get back to it's roots that is a strong centralized country that was built on love,Somalinimo and unity and we prosper moving forward side by side
WHY SOMALILAND HAS NOT BEEN RECOGNIZED BY A SINGLE COUNTRY FOR A QUARTER CENTURY
The situation surrounding SL has arguably been one of the most contentious issues in Somali history since the Northern Somalia territory self declared it's independence amidst the Somali civil war which came as a surprise to many,A surprise because prior to SL separatism movement no other Somali territory harbored separatism tendencies quite contrary Somalis believed the horn of Africa was a single country so strong was this feeling Somalia invaded Ethiopia in 1977 to reclaim the Ogaden region which was wrongfully put under Ethiopian rule by the British colonizers this is a whole different topic altogether so i wont get much into it but moving on to the topic at hand these are some of the most crucial reasons SL will not be achieving recognition anytime soon.I will use the youngest nation in Africa South Sudan as a reference and how it was able to gain international recognition immediately after it's formation so bear with me;
1.PEOPLE
This is arguably one of the most important factors a separatism movement has to fulfill in it's quest for international recognition in the sense that it has to convince the international world they are completely different from the people they wish to separate from by race,religion,language etc SL does not full fill this condition because all ethnic Somalis generally make up one tribe that speaks the same language and furthermore share a religion on the other hand South Sudan managed to fulfill this condition perfectly because they were of a different race,religion and language from the Sudanese people which made their road to recognition a smooth one.
2.ACT OF UNION
This is another important factor a separatist movement can use in their quest for secession by simply proving they never signed an act of union from the region they want to separate from or were even forced or pressured to sign it but in the case of Somalia this is a very different scenario as both North and South Somalia willingly and unilaterally signed an act of union without any military pressure whatsoever amidst pomp and celebrations so once again SL falls short in this category NOTE some people might try to find faults in the act of union to work it on their favor but these can be rightfully termed as being opportunistic or fanatics but the main point is an act of union exist which the international world used to recognize Somalia as a single country after the union.Union:
1. (a) The State of Somaliland and the State of Somalia do hereby unite and shall forever remain united in a new, independent, democratic, unitary republic the name whereof shall the SOMALI REPUBLIC.
(b) The Capital of the Somali Republic shall be Mogadiscio.(Take note of the word ''FOREVER'')
3.DIFFERENCE IN POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES
This is one of the easiest routes a separatist movement is usually founded on this led to breakup of the USSR,a separatist movement simply needs to prove they have very contrasting political ideologies with the region they wish to separate from and wait to be recognized by other countries which share a common political ideology for instance SL might argue it's a communist state and wish to separate from Somalia a capitalist state this would see SL being recognized by other countries that are communist such as North Korea Lol this assumption is not true of course in reality the whole of Somalia regions believe in a capitalist ideology and mix of secular and sharia law as the basic political foundation so once again SL fails to differentiate itself from the rest of Somalia making the international world look at it as just another autonomous region in Somalia.
These are some of the most basic facts as to why SL has never been recognized by a single country since they self declared independence although this might hurt some people i can categorically tell you SL will never be recognized call me a ''hater'' or a ''pessimist'' but that is the simple unedited truth and is backed by SL consistently getting 00% recognition for a quarter century.
What Somali people need to realize is reconciliation is the best way forward Somalia is not Muqdishu or Bosaso alone it's a collection of great Somali cities such as Hargeysa,laascanod,Bosaso,Kismayo etc and most importantly our historic and ancient capital city Muqdishu for Somalia to come back to what it was it has to get back to it's roots that is a strong centralized country that was built on love,Somalinimo and unity and we prosper moving forward side by side
Maybe because the people in SL want to be part of Somalia, the journalist in the video got arrested
Maybe because there are people in Khaatumo still don't want to be part of SL
waraabe
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Why do you quote the same comment 10 times.
Khatumo wants to be somaliland which is why their malitia is surrendering to somaliland
it already is apart of somalia tho....
waraabe
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Somaliland is actually getting closer to international recognition, I was speaking to a international relations PhD student who focuses on Africa and he said state to state trade deals like dp world (where uae and somaliland govs signed an agreement) indicates that somaliland is moving closer and closer to international acceptance. We just need smart leaders
I'm not gonna continue repeating the same Somaliland vs Somalia debate. According to international law Somaliland has every right to be its own country. The only reason why there's no progress is because Somaliland has no functional negotiating partner in Somalia. The sooner Somalia gets their shit together the sooner we can be finally free of this nonsense.
Do not quote again liar, I don't care about 200 soldiers but people of Khaatumo wants only Somalia
waraabe
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it already is apart of somalia tho....
No it ain't my puntlander. That is why your little joke state tries so hard to be somaliland. Even your president begged to join somaliland
waraabe
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Can't pick and choose
that was petty
i honestly truly don't think it will happen though. I'm pretty y'all would be like "somalia tooso" in a couple years when you get over this delusion. (ps are you ogaden? aren't they like darod?)
I concur it's a damn shame the international community has remained suspiciously silent while Isaac commit horrendous injustices against Samaroon & Dhulbhante.
We had a tribal war in Somalia & one of the most important lessons we've learnt as a people is no tribe is stronger than a next tribe & no tribe can force another. Unfortunately it seems that the Isaac tribal militia of SNM haven't learnt this valuable lesson, it's seems inevitable that they will learn it the hard way.
Don't worry SL will come to negotiate with Somalia in 2020 peacefully
waraabe
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