Somaliland Second President - Mustafa Martin Insults Puntland

[DR OSMAN]

I am qabilist kulaha kkk who is not qabilist in this forum. I asked you simple question show me an other self hater from the daarood community or the hawiye then I will diagnose your symptoms. Why would I accept that isaaqs have EBOLA virus when all other communities in this forum are very health in somali standard .

I suspect your very oromo because you don't seem concerned the 'somali' race is in jepordy which 'any' somali regardless of any clan they are from will open their eyes and pick up their guns. We drop our beef when oromo is in the neighborhood and you seem to be carrying the tribal beef, are you an oromo agent?

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Saalax Bidaar I know your a true Somali, cause you hate Oromo like any pure blooded Somali would. Look at this shit, this is going to happen to our territories soon if we don't do something now.

 

[Karim]

@Saalax Bidaar the new guy is insane. Kulahaa "From now on I decide who is isaaq in this forum and who is not"
Who the f*ck does he think he is?!!! The arrogance in his ignorant statement is appalling. @Theyuusuf Sit your ass down boi and let the veterans talk.

 

[SilentE1001]

@Saalax Bidaar I know your a true Somali, cause you hate Oromo like any pure blooded Somali would. Look at this shit, this is going to happen to our territories soon if we don't do something now.

I don't believe in your statement, poor people from wherever move were they think they'll have opportunities to work. So far because of Hargeisa's development and etc people move there, when I was there last I saw people from a bunch of places as the l saw this Asians Orientals Africans Europeans Multi Cultural cities always trump's homogeneous ones

Why do you think London New York & Frankfurt are the richest been to all 3 they all look kinda the same as their multi cultarism blends well everyone just ways to succeed... That's what Hargeisa is gonna be all we need is the right local gov just gotta see in next year's election

 

[DR OSMAN]

I don't believe in your statement, poor people from wherever move were they think they'll have opportunities to work. So far because of Hargeisa's development and etc people move there, when I was there last I saw people from a bunch of places as the l saw this Asians Orientals Africans Europeans Multi Cultural cities always trump's homogeneous ones

Why do you think London New York & Frankfurt are the richest been to all 3 they all look kinda the same as their multi cultarism blends well everyone just ways to succeed... That's what Hargeisa is gonna be all we need is the right local gov just gotta see in next year's election

You do realize they are like 40-50 million oromos in the region and they are like 3-4 times our population size? This isn't europe, but Africa. Co-existance isn't possible, what people do is migrate, depopulate the other race and claim the land. Are you an oromo agent yourself? Please don't tell me your an oromo hiding under Somali and causing friction among somalis so you try to break our unity? You do realize the doctor changed a-lot about Somalinimo after I saw these vicious political strategies these vile oromos are doing in Somalia

 

[SilentE1001]

I must bite my tongue and say he is correct, politics in Puntland is very vicious and goes to deep levels. I mean just the discussions between Puntlanders on somalispot in comparison to other clan should tell you a-lot and the level of depth our discussions goes too!!!! Infact it's even worse with our seniors and elders who take it a-lot further.

The thing about Puntland is, you won't even know he is tricking you because they use diplomacy really well and understand how to influence you. It's not similar to 'fadhi ku dirirs' of other clans which is just 'my clan karbashed your clan'.

How are you saying PL has more vibrant politics were it essentially is a clan dictatorship where no opposition is allowed and everyone has to tow the party line.

Whereas in Somaliland despite all its flaws has an admin despite wielding allot of power and think thereth untouchable the are certain scenarios where they're held back and gotta change there approach just look at most recently the sexual offences bill I may not agree with the Guurti but his work with the system. Democracy is hard work and takes decades to progress

 

[SilentE1001]

You do realize they are like 40-50 million oromos in the region and they are like 3-4 times our population size? This isn't europe, but Africa. Co-existance isn't possible, what people do is migrate, depopulate the other race and claim the land. Are you an oromo agent yourself? Please don't tell me your an oromo hiding under Somali and causing friction among somalis so you try to break our unity? You do realize the doctor changed a-lot about Somalinimo after I saw these vicious political strategies these vile oromos are doing in Somalia

Nah, full blooded HY reer Burco my folks are heavily invested in WADANI & Cirro the last election and this coming one, we're working in our flawed system to register new electoral districts to get more MPs in Parliament and local councils.

But I'm not about that, there needs to be something fresh new and dynamic to reset & reform Somaliland to ensure that every region gets an equal share.

DR OSMAN from all of your post I've noticed that you see Puntland as perfect and don't recognise its flaws. In order to get better you gotta recognise all the flaws so to find a solution

 

[DR OSMAN]

Nah, full blooded HY reer Burco my folks are heavily invested in WADANI & Cirro the last election and this coming one, we're working in our flawed system to register new electoral districts to get more MPs in Parliament and local councils.

But I'm not about that, there needs to be something fresh new and dynamic to reset & reform Somaliland to ensure that every region gets an equal share.

DR OSMAN from all of your post I've noticed that you see Puntland as perfect and don't recognise its flaws. In order to get better you gotta recognise all the flaws so to find a solution

I do recognize Puntland's flaws, firstly it is the OROMO problem. Secondly, I am not saying Puntland system is perfect but I love how it's traditional and answers local needs(not perfectly, some clans complain) but the majority of clans-men are satisfied. I don't support democracy for Somalia as it's not suitable for our people who are tribal and will only foster competition and competition is not what tribes need, they need a system that fosters cooperation.

You need to first stabilize the tribes, educate them, develop their economy before you transition them to an individual democracy. You can't take them from 'poor, 3rd world jahil to democracy over night' life simply doesn't work like that.

 

[SilentE1001]

I do recognize Puntland's flaws, firstly it is the OROMO problem. Secondly, I am not saying Puntland system is perfect but I love how it's traditional and answers local needs(not perfectly, some clans complain) but the majority of clans-men are satisfied. I don't support democracy for Somalia as it's not suitable for our people who are tribal and will only foster competition and competition is not what tribes need, they need a system that fosters cooperation.

You need to first stabilize the tribes, educate them, develop their economy before you transition them to an individual democracy. You can't take them from 'poor, 3rd world jahil to democracy over night' life simply doesn't work like that.

Why not democracy, doesn't everyone deserve a say...

Yes, Somaliland is going through a rough patch right now with an incompetent adminstration but there is hope that someone better can take over come next election...

The Guurti needs to go in my opinion and would only be consulted in tribal matters

 

[DR OSMAN]

Why not democracy, doesn't everyone deserve a say...

Yes, Somaliland is going through a rough patch right now with an incompetent adminstration but there is hope that someone better can take over come next election...

The Guurti needs to go in my opinion and would only be consulted in tribal matters

Democracy requires 'free thinking and independent thought' and you can't free think when your poor and will always think through the 'collective or group mind-set'. The only reason your free thinking today is because you have 'wealth' and can support yourself plus you been educated.

The Somali at home simply hasn't gone through the same process you did, he is poor(no wealth) and he is un-educated, democracy cannot flourish in such 'environment', no matter what you do or how many fake elections you hold. Do you honestly think someone who has no job, no income, barely educated will form 'independent thought'? it's ludicurous, Democracy isn't even suitable for all Africa let alone Somalia.

 

[Theyuusuf]

Why not democracy, doesn't everyone deserve a say...

Yes, Somaliland is going through a rough patch right now with an incompetent adminstration but there is hope that someone better can take over come next election...

The Guurti needs to go in my opinion and would only be consulted in tribal matters

Dadkan are 30 years behind us we defeated them to the point they rely on our minor isaaq feud. They hAve no hope to stop us . They pray for our destruction every time we are quarrelling over nothing. Mark my words.

 

[SilentE1001]

You do realize they are like 40-50 million oromos in the region and they are like 3-4 times our population size? This isn't europe, but Africa. Co-existance isn't possible, what people do is migrate, depopulate the other race and claim the land. Are you an oromo agent yourself? Please don't tell me your an oromo hiding under Somali and causing friction among somalis so you try to break our unity? You do realize the doctor changed a-lot about Somalinimo after I saw these vicious political strategies these vile oromos are doing in Somalia

Bro it's all about economics... Competition drives innovation, the best barbers in Hargeisa are the Ethiopians so proffesional and the best service with clean/new equipment, whereas the Somali one messed up my hair and doesn't know how to do hair

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro it's all about economics... Competition drives innovation, the best barbers in Hargeisa are the Ethiopians so proffesional and the best service with clean/new equipment, whereas the Somali one messed up my hair and doesn't know how to do hair

Please go to dire-dawa and see what your asking for? your asking for Somalis to end up a minority if the flow of oromo isn't stopped. That's how they penetrate usually through migration, go read their history, then they settle with you, then they outbreed you and finally you become another dire dawa and they claim the land as majority. They know their strength is their numbers and they shape their politics around this by swallowing up neighbouring groups. You should always support a Somali barber even it's bad and boycott the oromos so they go home and find no benefit to stay in hargeisa.

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

I am qabilist kulaha kkk who is not qabilist in this forum. I asked you simple question show me an other self hater from the daarood community or the hawiye then I will diagnose your symptoms. Why would I accept that isaaqs have EBOLA virus when all other communities in this forum are very health in somali standard .

Waar there is no such thing as Isaaq around here. Everyone is out for himself. Either defend your Porcus or get the f*ck out

Isaaq kulahaa


Besides Isaaq is equivalent to Darood, Hawiye

MJ fend for themselves so do Dhulos and Warsangeli

Mareexaan also do the same
And do OGs

In Hawiye every single sub clan is on their own.

And yes they are constantly competing at every level

Yet you expect Isaaq to have one mentality. What an idiot

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

@Saalax Bidaar the new guy is insane. Kulahaa "From now on I decide who is isaaq in this forum and who is not"
Who the f*ck does he think he is?!!! The arrogance in his ignorant statement is appalling. @Theyuusuf Sit your ass down boi and let the veterans talk.

Kkkkkk this guy didn’t even get his dick wet in the FKD sessions and he is already trying to call shots ahaha

Confused Porcus waaxid

 

[Theyuusuf]

Let's make a deal, um ... any time you call me porcus I call you EBOLA. Kkkkkkkk the only difference is EBOLA is tailored for you personally since you are the self styled qabilist your case is unique indeed and it can never be viral through mult nicks . The only way it can be transmitted among humans is through close and direct physical contact from now I am the self styled Boss for the isaaq community in this forum only me and the distinguished comrades will decide who is fit for service and who is not . I demand discipline !

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

Let's make a deal, um ... any time you call me porcus I call you EBOLA. Kkkkkkkk the only difference is EBOLA is tailored for you personally since you are the self styled qabilist your case is unique indeed and it can never be viral through mult nicks . The only way it can be transmitted among humans is through close and direct physical contact from now I am the self styled Boss for the isaaq community in this forum only me and the distinguished comrades will decide who is fit for service and who is not . I demand discipline !

Ebola came from the consumption of bushmeat like Porcupine, bats and monkeys. Only people to eat bushmeat are your folks.

Ebola Virus and Porcupine are both suited for your people. Embrace it.


Since you are new let me bring you up to speed on the famed Porcupine thread

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...n-of-aynabo-resort-to-eating-bush-meat.25814/

 

[SilentE1001]

Please go to dire-dawa and see what your asking for? your asking for Somalis to end up a minority if the flow of oromo isn't stopped. That's how they penetrate usually through migration, go read their history, then they settle with you, then they outbreed you and finally you become another dire dawa and they claim the land as majority. They know their strength is their numbers and they shape their politics around this by swallowing up neighbouring groups. You should always support a Somali barber even it's bad and boycott the oromos so they go home and find no benefit to stay in hargeisa.

not gonna happen, its 2018 this way of thinking is ancient and very far right. People just wanna live their lives for however many long and feed their families. politics is not really on the mind of people only during election time, when non ethnically somalis register as a candidate or party in elections than you may say something but i would welcome it just look at western democracies.

the world is becoming more homogeneous because we're all people in the end

 

[Abdalla]

I agree. Puntland politics is far more intense and militarilised than other administrations. Historically veterans like AY, former commander of the armed forces Gen. Muhammed Abshir, and former PM Abdirizaq Haji Hussein were vying for the leadership of the northeast. Compare facing such rivals to what other administrations faced. No other region had former heavyweights facing each other.

This is a good thing because it keeps things in balance. Gaas can't do as he pleases

 

[Cumar]

Somaliland sucks. That is true
Xaargeysa because of all the Zinna and filth that is being tolerated there. I am conservative guy and I despise liberal towns
Wrong I don’t love Farmaajo. But he is legitimate a president of Somalia, whilst Muuse Biixi is local.
Ever heard of the saying there are no permanent friends or enemies but permanent interests.
Wrong I don’t booty shake for anyone. If someone doesn’t align with your way of thinking doesn’t mean they are booty shaking. That is very shallow way to look at things.

Finally i am qabalist. I love my tol garxajjis and first and foremost. Everything else is a fair game.

Reer Hargeisa are noble people. Let's not insult them but the charlatans that prey on the weak and uninformed.

Other than that I agree with most of what you said. Only langaabs cling to others and can't tolerate difference of opinion or thought.