The other side of our ancestry, the proto-Nilotes, were clearly not a hairy lot either once you look at groups like Dinkas:
I don't think this was selection for the most part. I think it's mostly just the result of being descended from groups that were not that hairy to begin with. Our pre-historic Egyptian ancestors were probably, similar to Western Arabians and Nilotes, not very hairy.
My dad is like that. Not hairy on most of his body but a full Indian beard as you put it.
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I've always thought of this as nature vs nurture. In this case it would be reasonable to assume that it's nature since a hairy body is impractical in a hot climate even somali goats have light hair that they shed every now and then unlike other sheep's with woolly hair. On the other hand a hairy body would be ideal for a cold climate. The actual answer might be a lot more nuanced than this.The other side of our ancestry, the proto-Nilotes, were clearly not a hairy lot either once you look at groups like Dinkas:
I don't think this was selection for the most part. I think it's mostly just the result of being descended from groups that were not that hairy to begin with. Our pre-historic Egyptian ancestors were probably, similar to Western Arabians and Nilotes, not very hairy.
I do think you're probably right and it's a mix of being descended from hairless groups but also even on our own exacerbating hairlessness via selection due to the high irradiation of Somaliweyn and its heat. Most Somali livestock and wildlife are indeed short-hairs as are most Arabian and Saharan livestock for obvious reasons. They are also often similarly built in frame to us, Nilotes and Central-West Arabians; lithe and sometimes quite tall like with us and the Nilotes. It's a beneficial body type in such climates. Anthropologists even refer to it as being "heated adapted", I believe.
Not Reer Shanshio but partly different banadiri
I pray to one day have a beard as thick as his
My beard has been a slow developer. At 20-22 I could not grow much more than a wispy mustache, soul-patch and goatee yet by 25-27 my mustache, goatee and soul-patch had thickened, I could grow a patchy and wispy neckbeard and my mustache and goatee were begining to connect.
I however got impatient and began using topical liquid minoxodil last year and now I have quite a bit of cheek hair and I can see my french beard area has become quite dense alongside the neck area. I've become very mildly hairier elsewhere (still a stereotypical hairless Somali with not even chest hair) but overall not really any serious side effects so far. Gonna keep at it alongside derma rolling and insha'Allah have a full beard like my father's in due time. I can already tell that we genetically have the same beard pattern. Mine was just taking its sweet time or wouldn't develop to be nearly as dense without minox.
I know it seems odd and silly to put any time into such a thing but I always admired the oday's gar iyo gafuur since my wee one days and I'd like to realize that goal.
I wouldn't take this as an accurate estimate, because most Somalis during that period had a cultural custom of shaving and plucking their beards and body hair. They actually describe in detail in those colonial era writings and pictures.
Most of it was done to maintain it because of the extreme heat and to avoid lice from it , they would also shave their heads either completely or in parts and even amongst the children.
Its funny how nowadays you are seeing a reverse trend of letting it grow out, all you see walking through Somali areas, especially in Africa is old Somali men with big bushy beards died in Red Henna. It's become a form of a cultural trademark/identifier for travelers
THE RED BEARD THAT SOMALIS WEAR
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Body hair amongst Somalis is highly variable. Some have a lot of hair (by African standards) and some have very little. So i sometimes see other Africans accuse Somalis of being on the harrier side of things compared to them.
It's related to why Somalis and Horners vary between bushy afros to curly/wavy hair. because they are adapted to a hot dry tropic climate so they have blend of both dry and tropical climate traits. Other Africans have exclusively just tropical climate traits.
Dry climate looser/softer hair texture , increased growth and tropical climate coarser thicker hair and reduced growth.
Probably explains why some Somali men can grow thick full beards but on the other hand have sparse body hair. And vice versa
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I am hairy all over even on my back, fingers , hands, on top of my foot, toes , a big carpet of hair all over chest down to my stomach and hair from my thighs to my legs and and i got bushy eyebrows.
My dad on the other hand has a big a beard but no other body hair except for a little fuzz on his chest.
Our MENA side asserted itself in you. Kekekekkeke. Truth be told, I think you're like my dad in his younger days. He's pretty hairless now but I somewhat suspect that's due to his age and poorer health nowadays. He even has thinning and sparse hair on the back and sides of his head which is rare. Male pattern baldness is primarily on the scalp, afterall. When I was a little boy and teenager I distinctly recall him having lots of chest and overall body hair. He was like Saddam Hussein, kekekekeek.
I hate it, i have like hair on the weirdest places and when it's get hot n sweaty out, i get itchy.
My dad said says i got it from my Awoowe because he was like that had hair all over.
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Same I have all over expect my chin but my mustache genes did not disappoint
Me during the pandemic when I didn't have to go to school or workI bet you be rockin that Johnny Depp moustache
Some of us are hairy and some are not, Iβm so hairy that I got hair on my fingers and toes
It varies
It varies
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This was a professional study where the authors personally examined Somalis in the hospitals and prisons of Mogadishu, not some random estimation as you put it sxb and I'm pretty sure they took Somalis shaving their beard into consideration when doing this broad and extensive study.I wouldn't take this as an accurate estimate, because most Somalis during that period had a cultural custom of shaving and plucking their beards and body hair. They actually describe in detail in those colonial era writings and pictures.
Most of it was done to maintain it because of the extreme heat and to avoid lice from it , they would also shave their heads either completely or in parts and even amongst the children.
Its funny how nowadays you are seeing a reverse trend of letting it grow out, all you see walking through Somali areas, especially in Africa is old Somali men with big bushy beards died in Red Henna. It's become a form of a cultural trademark/identifier for travelers
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