Somalis and Horses

Shimbiris

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What's a price of a horse?

No need, walaal. There are still some wild/feral herds with no markings or claim on them wandering the wadan. If you capture them they're basically yours for free.

How much for a camel?

From what I've noticed it tends to be 600-1,500 USD each for the males and could be higher for females and depending on the breeder and how "well-bred" the camel is. If you breed distinguished enough camels and try to sell them to Gulf Arabs you could very well make tens to hundreds of thousands of US Dollars.
 

Shimbiris

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Livestock is good business, wallahi. It's an asset that will literally give birth to a new asset of equal or greater worth than itself. Plus, I just find hard assets so much attractive than stocks and such. Land, animals, gold, silver... the global economic system could collapse and you'd still be a wealthy individual in a Mad Max-esque future world.
 
lol The current status quo with these DNA studies showing MJ being the 3rd “lost” brother of Sabti and Forculus must have gotten to your head. Imagine the so- called mighty Majerteen has been proven to be equal and parallel to both his brothers Sabti and Forculus on the genetic tree who themselves are like 20+ generations younger than Murusade-Waadeere-Karanle. What makes it worse is that the 3 (Sabti, MJ, Forculus) are connected further up on the family tree to Gurgaarte tribes like Hiiraab and Madhibaan. Despite knowing all this I keep it humble and continue testing more clans unlike you who tries to escape the reality by comparing horses:mjlol:


I mean why else would you force this stuff on a horse thread? You do know fkd is not allowed on this sub forum right?

All Southern kingdoms used horses including the mighty Geledi and its predecessor Ajuuraan. The difference is that us Murusade have kept the culture of horse riding till this day. Even MJ don’t ride horses the way we do regardless if the horses were named after you. Heck even the Karanle’s from Iimey were recorded to have large numbers of horses View attachment 352288

All Hawiye have northern origins and we know this through oral history, written history (Al Idrisi mentioned them to live as far north as Ras Xaafuun), including burial sites of patriarchs like Abgaal and Gareen Ajuuraan. Heck you have Murusade tribes living in Baabili and Dir Dhabe till this day :mjlol:

Medieval Portuguese maps shows Hawiye (Aiaua) held an important polity where the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea converged. I can guarantee you any money that you are those Hawiye :mjlol:

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As for horses, you are showing me wild horses from your region while I am actually showing you the ‘oldest feral horses’ in SSA that so happen to be located at Qundhura the burial site of my ancient ancestors Karanle & Hawiye. Their poor stature is due to several reason. I will copy and paste from Wikipedia 👇

The population also shows low genetic diversity,[12] the lowest of all Ethiopian horse populations studied.[23] It is likely that these horses have undergone a phenomenon of genetic drift, due to the low number of founder individuals, isolation over a long period of time, and the absence of crossbreeding with horses of external origin.
Not fkd at all buddy. I even told you that in my post. I’m speaking about a specific type of horse, not some random feral horse that you keep bringing up for some reason. You clearly admitted this horse came from the north and I want to know how that happened. I’d also like to know the genetic history of all Somali horses and their relation to the migrations of Somali people as I think there is a lot to be learned there such as whether/how much Arabian ancestry the horses have and how Somalis as nomadic people migrated with their animals. It’s fine if it doesn’t interest you.
 
Not fkd at all buddy. I even told you that in my post. I’m speaking about a specific type of horse, not some random feral horse that you keep bringing up for some reason. You clearly admitted this horse came from the north and I want to know how that happened. I’d also like to know the genetic history of all Somali horses and their relation to the migrations of Somali people as I think there is a lot to be learned there such as whether/how much Arabian ancestry the horses have and how Somalis as nomadic people migrated with their animals. It’s fine if it doesn’t interest you.

I am with you brother if you want to learn more regarding Somali horses. I believe it’s an interesting topic. It was just the human dna stuff that came across a bit cringe 😬 . Us Somalis are all 1 giant family so I would expect our cattle, camels, donkeys and horses to be all related in some way or another. Unfortunately our nation is not ready for genetic testing of animals yet as we are still in chapter 7 and have more pressing issues to deal with lol
 
No need, walaal. There are still some wild/feral herds with no markings or claim on them wandering the wadan. If you capture them they're basically yours for free.



From what I've noticed it tends to be 600-1,500 USD each for the males and could be higher for females and depending on the breeder and how "well-bred" the camel is. If you breed distinguished enough camels and try to sell them to Gulf Arabs you could very well make tens to hundreds of thousands of US Dollars.
Have you seen feral horses? Those things are not majestic or fun, just anger issues and constant disrespect. We domesticated them out of spite.
 
@Step a side There is an amazing PBS documentary on horse domestication and how they were used in warfare as soon as they were domesticated leading to a massive shift in human history. It’s like 3 parts long, each an hour. I watched it several years ago. You should check it out.
 

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