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Somalis and the black / African identity
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Chaseyourdreamzz
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Pan Africanism works In the west where Africans/black people are minority but it doesn’t work in Africa where tribalism comes first my advice is to work with other Africans but always look out for your own best group interests especially as Somalis
Hamzza
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Pan-Africanism and Pan-Somalism on JSTOR
I. M. Lewis, Pan-Africanism and Pan-Somalism, The Journal of Modern African Studies, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Jun., 1963), pp. 147-161
www.jstor.org
I believe pan-Africanism back home is futile until African nations are comfortable economically.
The wealthier more nations become, the more educated populations become and the more comfortable they are with “globalisation”.
In the West as diaspora, I do see the benefits to having some ties to a larger African community. After all, strength in numbers.
The wealthier more nations become, the more educated populations become and the more comfortable they are with “globalisation”.
In the West as diaspora, I do see the benefits to having some ties to a larger African community. After all, strength in numbers.
That video is stupid, only Mogadishu was benefiting you think the entire country was like that ? Kkkkkkk we been gaajo way before the civil war don’t let this vids fool you
Laagite
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The "golden" age of Somalia 1980 is a quarter of Xamar
I changed the title this ain’t about pan africanism but identity
King Khufu
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Somalis are still tribalist.
Nilotic
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Hasn't this topic (Somalia's racial identity) been done to death?
You are the result of an extremely old admixture event and are therefore distinct from both constituent components of your ancestries, but get lumped in with full SSA populations due to some shared physical traits.
Waa sidaas oo kale runtii
You are the result of an extremely old admixture event and are therefore distinct from both constituent components of your ancestries, but get lumped in with full SSA populations due to some shared physical traits.
Waa sidaas oo kale runtii
reer
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pan africanism will never be something somalis will swallow because it is anti somaliweyn by leaning to ethiopia. and glorifies menelik and selassie (and to a smaller extent jomo kenyatta). somalis/hararis/arsi are the black sheep of sub saharan africa.
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Hasn't this topic (Somalia's racial identity) been done to death?
You are the result of an extremely old admixture event and are therefore distinct from both constituent components of your ancestries, but get lumped in with full SSA populations due to some shared physical traits.
Waa sidaas oo kale runtii
no this isn’t about genetics but history
Nilotic
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Hasn't this topic (Somalia's racial identity) been done to death?
You are the result of an extremely old admixture event and are therefore distinct from both constituent components of your ancestries, but get lumped in with full SSA populations due to some shared physical traits.
Waa sidaas oo kale runtii
If Somalis want a greater identity it's frankly right fucking there. It's not like we're utterly unique in our region. There's like a dozen different neighboring ethnic groups who speak languages related, sometimes quite closely, to ours who are like 70-90% genetically identical to us with whatever's left being the same basic components anyway. We're Horners. We do actually belong to our own historical culture and region that actually extended beyond the Horn and into northern Sudan and parts of Chad as well as what is now southern Egypt.
I remember some cadaan anthropologist saying that if you went from around the south of Upper Egypt down to Koonfur you'd basically see the same basic culture and people with just some noticeable regional variations and he's not wrong as Burton notes with the clothes alone:
Ja'alin Arabs of Sudan a century ago:
Dongolawi Arab a century ago:
People at the court of Sahle Selassie a century ago:
Somali nomad a century ago:
Even the bloody tents were the same and were spread southward by South-Cushites:
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I'll get attacked by some of my brethren but, seriously, Somalis are basically just coastal Ethiopians, rofl. Somalis are what you get when you take a group like Oromos, remove some of the extra mixing with Omotics and Xabashis and just tack-on Islam and Arabian architectural and cultural influences but even as recently as the early 1900s Somalis were still believing in things like trials by fire and sacred trees and telling stories like the "Black Crow" while passing on cultural implements like this. Our culture is flat-out continuity with the rest of the Horn. Even the popular crops of Koonfur, contrary to what many hooyo mataalos probably think, aren't Bantu crops but from Central Ethiopia:
www.jstor.org
Not to mention they were the people we were mostly warring and trading with the most since time immemorial. Even despite the Muslim Vs. Christian and ethnic beef there were always busy trade routes connecting all of Ethiopia with Koonfur and Woqooyi going back centuries.
I'll get attacked by some of my brethren but, seriously, Somalis are basically just coastal Ethiopians, rofl. Somalis are what you get when you take a group like Oromos, remove some of the extra mixing with Omotics and Xabashis and just tack-on Islam and Arabian architectural and cultural influences but even as recently as the early 1900s Somalis were still believing in things like trials by fire and sacred trees and telling stories like the "Black Crow" while passing on cultural implements like this. Our culture is flat-out continuity with the rest of the Horn. Even the popular crops of Koonfur, contrary to what many hooyo mataalos probably think, aren't Bantu crops but from Central Ethiopia:
The Durra Complex in the Central Highlands of Ethiopia on JSTOR
Clarke Brooke, The Durra Complex in the Central Highlands of Ethiopia, Economic Botany, Vol. 12, No. 2 (Apr. - Jun., 1958), pp. 192-204
www.jstor.org
Not to mention they were the people we were mostly warring and trading with the most since time immemorial. Even despite the Muslim Vs. Christian and ethnic beef there were always busy trade routes connecting all of Ethiopia with Koonfur and Woqooyi going back centuries.
