Somalis should adopt left wing thinking.

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You support Trump, hate Palestine, hate Arabs, hate Sunnis and are of the Alt-Right (I don't believe you are liberal).

Are you capable of rational thinking or human feelings.

Why would I support people who hate me and want me killed for being gay? Or treat me without decency for being a black man. Do you know how badly Somalis are treated in the Arab hellhole countries? I don't care about Palestine because they don't care about me.

I support the West because they gave my family a second chance at life and gave me opportunity. They treat me with dignity and have given me a very good life. I am not a traitor.

I love Trump because he supports my kind. I am alt-right liberal, not just liberal.

Please visit the following link to better understand the difference between alt right and alt right liberal.

http://www.somalispot.com/threads/w...etween-alt-right-and-alt-right-liberal.15757/
 

TheLibertarianQuiche

Quintessentially negroid: Your problem?
Why would I support people who hate me and want me killed for being gay? Or treat me without decency for being a black man. Do you know how badly Somalis are treated in the Arab hellhole countries? I don't care about Palestine because they don't care about me.

I support the West because they gave my family a second chance at life and gave me opportunity. They treat me with dignity and have given me a very good life. I am not a traitor.

I love Trump because he supports me. I am alt-right liberal, not just liberal.

Please visit the following link to better understand the difference between alt right and alt right liberal.

http://www.somalispot.com/threads/w...etween-alt-right-and-alt-right-liberal.15757/

1. Uganda hates gays, its a Christian country. The UK used to chemically castrate gays, your point....
2. I used to live in 2 Arab countries, I have never experienced racism. There are Arabs that are much darker than Madow Somalis and they are treated with utmost respect. Its like calling the Alt-Right wholly racist, some are but majority aren't.
3. Does it look like Palestine is or has been in a situation to care about anyone. They are oppressed, as poor as us and treated us second-class citizens and yet you degrade them.
4. Arab countries also gave Somalis a second chance at life. Imagine where you would be if Trump was elected in '91.
5. Yeah Trump would have totally supported your family when they were planning to come to the West.
6. Most Alt-Right liberal points are exactly either centrist or moderate Right-wing policies (Australian Liberal Party).
7. Don't you find it weird that you support Colonialism when that is what brought you and your family strife in the first place.

Please go over these points carefully and re-evaluate your stance.
 
1. Uganda hates gays, its a Christian country. The UK used to chemically castrate gays, your point.... Uganda is disgusting. I don't care about that country. UK has gay marriage today and it was legalized by a Conservative government. Your point?
2. I used to live in 2 Arab countries, I have never experienced racism. There are Arabs that are much darker than Madow Somalis and they are treated with utmost respect. Its like calling the Alt-Right wholly racist, some are but majority aren't. I experienced two racist incidents in "liberal" Dubai and Doha and I was only there for a few weeks. What you said was a lie. You're very dishonest. You're a big liar.
3. Does it look like Palestine is or has been in a situation to care about anyone. They are oppressed, as poor as us and treated us second-class citizens and yet you degrade them. Somalis are not in a position to care about them so why should we care about them? Somalis are worst off than them. Somalia is poorer than Gaza, has worse schools and health care. Somalis starve while Gazans eat. Somalis are permanently occupied by Ethiopia and Kenya in NFD and K5 and a dozen of other countries temporarily in the south. Gaza and the West Bank arent occupied by Israel. Just because Israel karbashes them once every 5 years doesn't mean they're oppressed. They get beat up if Hamas acts up.
4. Arab countries also gave Somalis a second chance at life. Imagine where you would be if Trump was elected in '91. Arabs have deported tens of thousands of Somalis. Almost none have their passports. Trump wouldn't be anti Somali if he were president in 1991. The Americans have seen how ungrateful and troublesome the Somalis are even after being very welcoming to them.
5. Yeah Trump would have totally supported your family when they were planning to come to the West. He would have back then. Read #5
6. Most Alt-Right liberal points are exactly either centrist or moderate Right-wing policies (Australian Liberal Party). Alt right liberalism is a mixture of both far right and liberal policies.
7. Don't you find it weird that you support Colonialism when that is what brought you and your family strife in the first place. Who said I supported colonialism? Thats ridiculous. How did colonialism bring us to the West? It ended in the mid 1900s. I am also one of the largest critics here of Ethiopia and Kenya who occupy Somali lands.

Please go over these points carefully and re-evaluate your stance. I think it is you who should and I think should be very ashamed of yourself.
 

The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
1. Uganda hates gays, its a Christian country. The UK used to chemically castrate gays, your point....
2. I used to live in 2 Arab countries, I have never experienced racism. There are Arabs that are much darker than Madow Somalis and they are treated with utmost respect. Its like calling the Alt-Right wholly racist, some are but majority aren't.
3. Does it look like Palestine is or has been in a situation to care about anyone. They are oppressed, as poor as us and treated us second-class citizens and yet you degrade them.
4. Arab countries also gave Somalis a second chance at life. Imagine where you would be if Trump was elected in '91.
5. Yeah Trump would have totally supported your family when they were planning to come to the West.
6. Most Alt-Right liberal points are exactly either centrist or moderate Right-wing policies (Australian Liberal Party).
7. Don't you find it weird that you support Colonialism when that is what brought you and your family strife in the first place.

Please go over these points carefully and re-evaluate your stance.

Your first point was highly fallacious. The UK USED to treat gays terribly, the keywords should be "USED TO". They realised their mistakes and gay marriage is now legal. Point is, the west evolves whilst the Somalis and Muslim countries stagnate.

The rest were answered by AJ
 

TheLibertarianQuiche

Quintessentially negroid: Your problem?
Your first point was highly fallacious. The UK USED to treat gays terribly, the keywords should be "USED TO". They realised their mistakes and gay marriage is now legal. Point is, the west evolves whilst the Somalis and Muslim countries stagnate.

The rest were answered by AJ

They still to this day refuse to apologise.
 

The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
They still to this day refuse to apologise.

They've done more than that for the gay community.

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They didn't have to do that, especially since many of them are dead today.
 

TheLibertarianQuiche

Quintessentially negroid: Your problem?
@AbdiJohnson you are a child.

1. Fair enough
2. How am I a liar if you experienced racism in Arab countries and I didn't !!! Just because some racist incident occur that doesn't mean they are all bad. There are blacks in Arab countries and they are treated as equals, I ask them about racism and they say they generally don't experience it 95% of the time.
3. There is a reason why Israel has been condemned more times in the UN than North Korea. Also I believe its called the occupied West Bank for a reason. Don't make me bring photos of kids being run-over on their way to school while the soldiers are laughing in their tanks.
4. How would Trump not be anti-Somali in '91. I want to hear this.
5. You support Israel therefore you are inherently pro-colonialism, just a different label.
 
@AbdiJohnson you are a child.

1. Fair enough
2. How am I a liar if you experienced racism in Arab countries and I didn't !!! Just because some racist incident occur that doesn't mean they are all bad. There are blacks in Arab countries and they are treated as equals, I ask them about racism and they say they generally don't experience it 95% of the time.
3. There is a reason why Israel has been condemned more times in the UN than North Korea. Also I believe its called the occupied West Bank for a reason. Don't make me bring photos of kids being run-over on their way to school while the soldiers are laughing in their tanks.
4. How would Trump not be anti-Somali in '91. I want to hear this.
5. You support Israel therefore you are inherently pro-colonialism, just a different label.


There are hundreds of other videos on YouTube that dismiss your outrageous lie.

The UN has 50 majority Muslim nations members. What do you expect? North Korea is only condemned by South Korea and the U.S.

Also, the U.N is despicable. Look at what they allow as admissible statements and look what they don't allow as admissible statements


Why would Trump be anti Somali immigration at 1991 when he had no reason to back then? Trump has only attacked Mexicans and Somalis. Did you see him attack Iranians? Ethiopians or the 100 other immigrant groups that number much larger than Somalis? Somalis are tiny in the U.S. but with massive problems.

The Jews were there for many thousands of years. Their language and history and culture predates the Arabs. How are they colonizers?

You are not an honest debater. You have an agenda.
 

TheLibertarianQuiche

Quintessentially negroid: Your problem?
The Jews were there for many thousands of years. Their language and history and culture predates the Arabs. How are they colonizers?

The book which Jews claim to be their reason for colonising Palestine says that they took Palestine (or Canaan as it was known) from pre-Islamic Arab nomads. They are colonisers in the fact that they occupied a country which didn't belong to them, they came to Palestine when it was Arab-majority, used genocidal tactics and lobbying as well as the sympathy card to systematically ethnically cleanse the area which is now Israel.

The majority of Muslim countries support Israel or are idle on the matter, the only people that have caused Israel real harm are the Europeans. Even whites, historic colonisers know what they are seeing is colonialism.

Here is quotes from people who suffered Apartheid themselves telling you what they think of Israel.

"I have been to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, and I have witnessed the racially segregated roads and housing that reminded me so much of the conditions we experienced in South Africa under the racist system of Apartheid. I have witnessed the humiliation of Palestinian men, women, and children made to wait hours at Israeli military checkpoints routinely when trying to make the most basic of trips to visit relatives or attend school or college, and this humiliation is familiar to me and the many black South Africans who were corralled and regularly insulted by the security forces of the Apartheid government." -Desmond Tutu

"As someone who lived in apartheid South Africa and who has visited Palestine I say with confidence that Israel is an apartheid state. In fact, I believe that some of the atrocities committed against the South Africans by the erstwhile apartheid regime in South Africa pale in comparison to those committed against the Palestinians." -Willie Madisha

"When in 1977, the United Nations passed the resolution inaugurating the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian people, it was asserting the recognition that injustice and gross human rights violations were being perpetrated in Palestine. In the same period, the UN took a strong stand against apartheid; and over the years, an international consensus was built, which helped to bring an end to this iniquitous system. But we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians." -Nelson Mandela
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
The most successful minorities in the States are the Cubans an they vote republican. The Iranians in the Netherlands are the most successful minorities and they vote for the rightwing party. Left wing policies can be deterrent for Somalis as they don't give you incentives to work. We are among the egalitarian societies that's why we don't have an elite class or a middle class. In order to succeed one needs social classes and in order to have a social class one to be ruthless to each other. Right wing policies create the atmosphere to be ruthless. Pampering a lazy society like Somalis who are reluctant from working doesn't work.
 

TheLibertarianQuiche

Quintessentially negroid: Your problem?
The right-wing is for the uneducated or is used by the educated to manipulate the uneducated. Since many Somalis are neither, we will forever be left.
 

Bielsa

Free Wi-Fi > Free Palestine
VIP
Economics is one thing but when it comes social issues it's the left wing who has pushed for progression . Conservstives = stagnation. All the things like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, gender equality, protection of minorities, civil liberties, civil rights etc were left wing causes.

Somalia / Somaliland will never socially progress unless local lefties push for change - and that won't happen cos the masses are uneducated. There's no ideological diversity amongst Somalis. 95% of Somalis have the same rigid conservative mindset.
 
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