The Arabs left Zaila in 1540

[mohammdov]

On the night of the third Sunday of Jumada al-Awwal in year 947(1540)
"a group arrived from Zeila. In it, Sharif Muhammad Al-Shatri and Sharif Bascotta moved from Zeila from its devastation, the oppression of the Sultan, and the devastation of Barr Saad Al-Din. They mentioned that there was no food, and they mentioned that the mosque in Barr Saad al-Din, which is eight halls, was empty. Birds do not fly for fear of the Somalis, and the garaad no longer has prestige or power May allah help Muslims"

 

[mohammdov]

@HabarSteven12 @Banadiri Warrior
It seems that the Arabs left at that time, so there was no longer an Arab presence in Zeila, such as Mogadishu, Marka, and Barwa. The reason was the attacks of the Somali nomads
Also, the capital of Adal was moved years later to Awsa, also due to attacks by Oromo and Somali nomads

 

[mohammdov]

Source :History of Shihr in the tenth century
تاريخ شحر في القرن العاشر

 

[Garaad diinle]

The one who kicked them was the imam and amir nur ibn mujahid who were also mentioned in the same book, i remember the writer mistook them as siblings. It all started with an attack on zeila by mahra from yemen that didn't go well for them which lead them to ally with portuguese who were coming from india. Together the mahra and the portuguese attacked zeila and the arab merchants were asked to take responsibility. They refused and the imam took care of them.

 

[Khaem]

Arabs weren't noble rulers who left. They were mere merchants and other workers who got booted back to Arabia by Nur ibn Mujahid.

The capital moved due to Oromo expansion, and the walls built around Harar for that same reason. The walls were built by a Somali you idiot, Nur was a Marexan. Somali nomads came and went even to this day as they pleased. Somali reer magaal made up one of the dominant ethnics in Harar all the way to the conquest by Menelik in the 1890s which expelled Somali.

But you can cope all you want.

 

[mohammdov]

The one who kicked them was the imam and amir nur ibn mujahid who were also mentioned in the same book, i remember the writer mistook them as siblings. It all started with an attack on zeila by mahra from yemen that didn't go well for them which lead them to ally with portuguese who were coming from india. Together the mahra and the portuguese attacked zeila and the arab merchants were asked to take responsibility. They refused and the imam took care of them.

These were the Ashraf, not mahra
The Mahra and the Portuguese did not ally
but were at war and the Mahra regained Socotra from the Portuguese in 1511

The writer talks about that there is no longer a law in the city and that the ruler has no power The writer mentioned Imam Ahmed and that he was a mujahid

Anyway We all know that Zeila had belonged to Mocha since 1611, and that the governor of Mocha was the one who appointed the ruler over it, but there are no longer any civilized residents there

 

[reer]

The one who kicked them was the imam and amir nur ibn mujahid who were also mentioned in the same book, i remember the writer mistook them as siblings. It all started with an attack on zeila by mahra from yemen that didn't go well for them which lead them to ally with portuguese who were coming from india. Together the mahra and the portuguese attacked zeila and the arab merchants were asked to take responsibility. They refused and the imam took care of them.

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[HabarSteven12]

Previous Arab leaders in Zeila commissioned the building of a wall around the port city of Zeila as a precautionary measure against Somali restlessness. Somali nomads are generally lawless and anarchic. Arabs also arrived in Zeila at different intervals. Similar fortified walls were constructed in Mogadishu and Harar to keep out the lawless nomads.

I appreciate you bringing that up. As I mentioned before, Somali nomads entered Zeila after the collapse of the Adal sultante. The nomads took advantage of the weakened state and invaded. The Arabs in Zeila were overwhelmed by the nomads, so they departed.

 

[mohammdov]

Arabs weren't noble rulers who left. They were mere merchants and other workers who got booted back to Arabia by Nur ibn Mujahid.

The capital moved due to Oromo expansion, and the walls built around Harar for that same reason. The walls were built by a Somali you idiot, Nur was a Marexan. Somali nomads came and went even to this day as they pleased. Somali reer magaal made up one of the dominant ethnics in Harar all the way to the conquest by Menelik in the 1890s which expelled Somali.

But you can cope all you want. View attachment 313254

British ethnologist James Pritchard in his book Ethnography of African Races in 1837

I can provide you with other sources that state the opposite of what you say

 

[Riftvalley]

@HabarSteven12 @Banadiri Warrior
It seems that the Arabs left at that time, so there was no longer an Arab presence in Zeila, such as Mogadishu, Marka, and Barwa. The reason was the attacks of the Somali nomads
Also, the capital of Adal was moved years later to Awsa, also due to attacks by Oromo and Somali nomads

The wall around was Harar built against Oromos. Which Somali clans were attacking what was left of the sultanate? Even when the Sultanate moved to Awsa, it wasn’t completely safe and the Oromos were still launching raids.

 

[Khaem]

British ethnologist James Pritchard in his book Ethnography of African Races in 1837View attachment 313256
I can provide you with other sources that state the opposite of what you say

The Afar were a part of Adal this is a known fact. What does this prove?

 

[HabarSteven12]

The wall around was Harar built against Oromos. Which Somali clans were attacking what was left of the sultanate? Even when the Sultanate moved to Awsa, it wasn’t completely safe and the Oromos were still launching raids.

The walls in Harar were built to repulse Somali and Oromo nomads. Somali and Oromo nomads were launching constant raids and incursions against the weakened kingdom. These clans included Marehan, Isaaq, and Dir. Arab and other Semitic-speaking groups were overwhelmed and deserted the town.

 

[Riftvalley]

Previous Arab leaders in Zeila commissioned the building of a wall around the port city of Zeila as a precautionary measure against Somali restlessness. Somali nomads are generally lawless and anarchic. Arabs also arrived in Zeila at different intervals. Similar fortified walls were constructed in Mogadishu and Harar to keep out the lawless nomads.

I appreciate you bringing that up. As I mentioned before, Somali nomads entered Zeila after the collapse of the Adal sultante. The nomads took advantage of the weakened state and invaded. The Arabs in Zeila were overwhelmed by the nomads, so they departed.

Ibn Batuta writing in 1331 says the towns people are black and their land people extended all the way to Muqdisho. He complains about the stench of camels being slaughtered in the streets. Who do you think they were getting the camels fromand why is the majority of the town black Somalis a few centuries before the collapse of Adal?I assume all the Arabs were in hiding in when Ibn Batuta came.

 

[mohammdov]

The wall around was Harar built against Oromos. Which Somali clans were attacking what was left of the sultanate? Even when the Sultanate moved to Awsa, it wasn’t completely safe and the Oromos were still launching raids.

The source I mentioned to you now mentions the case of Zaila and that the Arabs in the city were subjected to Bedouin raids. Why are you trying to make the Oromo and Somalis different they were the same thing

Why do you think it moved to Awsa, where the Afar live, and not to another land where the Somalis live? If they are the ones who own Adal and Harar, why did they choose the land of the Afar?
The reason is because the Afar there were farmers and were more peaceful, unlike the Somalis and Oromo who were very nomadic and attacked Harar and Zeila.

 

[mohammdov]

The Afar were a part of Adal this is a known fact. What does this prove?

See top "People of Harar"

 

[Khaem]

See top "People of Harar"

You haven't even looked at my source that states reer magaal Somalis made up one of the dominant ethnics and with the reer baadiya that came seasonally, made a majority. But keep coping. You seriously claiming Afars were the ones in charge kulaha.

 

[Step a side]

Arabs weren't noble rulers who left. They were mere merchants and other workers who got booted back to Arabia by Nur ibn Mujahid.

The capital moved due to Oromo expansion, and the walls built around Harar for that same reason. The walls were built by a Somali you idiot, Nur was a Marexan. Somali nomads came and went even to this day as they pleased. Somali reer magaal made up one of the dominant ethnics in Harar all the way to the conquest by Menelik in the 1890s which expelled Somali.

But you can cope all you want. View attachment 313254

He wasn’t a marexaan. His lineage is unknow if we are being honest. Him being a close relative of the imam I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a Karanle especially if you consider the fact that the rulers that came afterwards were verified “paternal”relatives of Gurey.

 

[Garaad diinle]

These were the Ashraf, not mahra
The Mahra and the Portuguese did not ally
but were at war and the Mahra regained Socotra from the Portuguese in 1511

The writer talks about that there is no longer a law in the city and that the ruler has no power The writer mentioned Imam Ahmed and that he was a mujahid

Anyway We all know that Zeila had belonged to Mocha since 1611, and that the governor of Mocha was the one who appointed the ruler over it, but there are no longer any civilized residents there

I see you're full of cuqdad or perhaps this your arabist side? Even then you really giving your fellow arabist a bad rep especially when you lie about history to further your so called narrative. Here is the text i referred to for anyone interested.

About the amir of zaila going out to fight the mahra.

At the beginning of Muharram: al-qarar/al-garad muhammad bin Ibrahim went out, along with his brother ahmad al-mujahid, the the owner/sultan of barr saad al-din, with four hundred cavalry, and thousands of infantries to Zaila, when he learned of the killing of al-mahra to his prince and scribe, sa'id, and he came forward in the year four. Those of al-mahra who killed him.

He did not come up until the killer had fled, and the resident mahris did not think that he would punish them for the sin of their companions. In Zaila, a group of mahrahs had an travellers, and a group of their wujuh/representative were there, so he arrested them, plundered them, took their money, and killed two of them, one of whom was saad bin amr bin salman al-muhammadi, and he was the greatest of his companions with courage and determination. The second was sihah bin muhammad al-zuwaidi, the sheikh of the House of sihah and the most senior and wisest of them. He captured the rest and brought them to land. Among them was Suleiman bin Haywah, the master of his cousins, the best of them and the most generous of them. He died there, may God have mercy on him, and Ahmed bin Muqaddam bin Afrar also died. With the plague, the rest were released. And

Wood from Bandar Zaila and they fled to bab al-mandab, where they encountered foreign raiders who had left India, searching about the news. They came to them and told them, "You and I will help and plunder Zaila." So they reached Zaila, and there was a season of of trade.

It's funny you mention mokha that had a third of it's citizens being somalis. I guess somalis simply by being residents of the city they were also the rulers of mokha according to your logic.

 

[HabarSteven12]

He wasn’t a marexaan. His lineage is unknow if we are being honest. Him being a close relative of the imam I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a Karanle especially if you consider the fact that the rulers that came afterwards were verified “paternal”relatives of Gurey.

Amir Nur came from the Harla hereditary landed nobility. He had no association with Marehan.

 

[NidarNidar]

Arabs weren't noble rulers who left. They were mere merchants and other workers who got booted back to Arabia by Nur ibn Mujahid.

The capital moved due to Oromo expansion, and the walls built around Harar for that same reason. The walls were built by a Somali you idiot, Nur was a Marexan. Somali nomads came and went even to this day as they pleased. Somali reer magaal made up one of the dominant ethnics in Harar all the way to the conquest by Menelik in the 1890s which expelled Somali.

But you can cope all you want.

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The last ruler of Harar was close friends with Ughaz Nur II, he fought the Ethiopians up till his death.

"The Ughaz had established strong relations with the Emir of Harar, Abdallah II ibn Ali . In 1887, when Harar was occupied by Menelik II of Ethiopia, Ughaz Nur sent Gadabursi askaris to support Abdallah II ibn Ali. The emir of Harar was eventually defeated and Ras Makonnen was appointed "Ethiopian governor of Harar". Menelik II continued to turn his attention to the Gadabuursi and offered the King (Ughaz Nur) and his people protection and military support for collaboration, seemingly a trap Ughaz Nur refused and fought until he died in 1898. He was buried in Dirri."