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They need to stop sending Alsheydaan to Mogadishu and the south
You're almost a majority shareholder in your own destructionThey need to stop sending Alsheydaan to Mogadishu and the south
I don't understand this Western obsession with Somalia and Somaliland. So many other independence movements around the world, many even in Europe. In Africa you couldn't count them all on your fingers yet the West falls over itself to legitimise Somaliland without even going so far as to recognise Somaliland.
And they don't stop there, there's a constant narrative being pushed that SL is a bastion of democractic values in opposition to the barbarism and chaos of Somalia.
I don't have anything against Landers but I can't help but feel curious about the focus on Somaliland
What is that rule?Nobody fears a strong Somali state lol its never even existed you broke the first rule of world politics and then act confused why nobody will give you recognition
No unilateral secession, it undermines the entire concept of nation states.What is that rule?
They can write a million articles for the separatist mono-clan enclave but it won’t change the fact that the only person they can ask to let them go is Farmajo. They should be direct and approach him instead of running around like a headless goose for 30nyears
Bro this is all for optics and no real deliberations ever take place at these meetings. They are forced to meet by the IC every year to “talk” and nothing has ever materialised. Both sides are entrenched with their ideals and neither wants to make any concessions.What more can be done?
Good point. That's why they encourage conflict and hatred between SL and Somalia.Somalia should understand that the west doesn't prefer you over SL but that they want both of us weak
Actually Hassan Sheikh and Sh. Sharif could have easily recognized somaliland if only SL leaders agreed to negotiate a serious deal. After all we are talking about two presidents who sold Somalia's territory, they don't care about somali unity. The only thing preventing SL from geti full independence is the stubbornness of their leaders.Bro this is all for optics and no real deliberations ever take place at these meetings. They are forced to meet by the IC every year to “talk” and nothing has ever materialised. Both sides are entrenched with their ideals and neither wants to make any concessions.
Full autonomy for SL is something Somalia will never entertain for obvious reasons and SL doesn’t want to budge either in their defiance(for good reason as well).
The status quo only favours Somalia at the moment and if SL doesn’t push for more out of these talks then they can say goodbye to any hope of recognition.
Actually Hassan Sheikh and Sh. Sharif could have easily recognized somaliland if only SL leaders agreed to negotiate a serious deal. After all we are talking about two presidents who sold Somalia's territory, they don't care about somali unity. The only thing preventing SL from geti full independence is the stubbornness of their leaders.
Cause SL keeps saying "full independence now or nothing" . Somalis don't know how to negotiate saaxib, too stubborn.The former president tried that in Turkey.
Somalia couldn't even honor the airspace deal forget about more impotent issues.
When Farmaajo became president all the agreements made with the previous administration when out the window.
Who can take politicians from Somalia serious they don't have any respect for deal or the rule of law.
This is a lie saxib, secession will have to go through parliament as it changed tbe constitution. Parliament will shut it down.Cause SL keeps saying "full independence now or nothing" . Somalis don't know how to negotiate saaxib, too stubborn.
Anyway if somalia gets a Hawiye president in office I'm pretty sure SL chances of full independence will improve. That's why SL is so anxious to see Farmaajo removed
This is a lie saxib, secession will have to go through parliament as it changed tbe constitution. Parliament will shut it down.
Also all presidents of Somalia , of any clan, would never grant secession as IC and the local people will be against it. HSM brought the sea issue to ICJ.
There is no such thing as Somaliland. If you want to make an Isaaq only state due to claims of genocide that would make more sense, but dragging us SSC into your delusions will fail.Naah it will go the same way as it did in Eritrea and South Sudan.
When time comes a somalian leader will see the writing on the wall - that the union is dead, gone and will never comeback.
With Somaliland out of the way they can focus on the real issues at hand like eradicating Al-Shabab, centralising the government authority so these ussless maamul Like Puntland and Jubaland can't hold the somalian nation as hostages, and building up the army so the +30.000 african troops can leave the country.