Yeah, it's funny you mention this because I noticed how similar a lot of these nice pictures of addis abba were. Apparently a lot of them are just diffrent angles of a single road. Called bole
The fast development of Ethiopia
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The Real Patriotic Ethiopians that live there know and see things for what they actually are
AMANUEL DESSALEGH - Abiy Ahmed’s Ethiopia: Simmering Crisis and Misplaced Priorities - The Elephant
Despite the country’s economic struggles and the dire humanitarian situation, the government’s actions are out of sync with the reality in the country, with public spending going to vanity projects even as living conditions worsen for millions of Ethiopians.
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It really is just Ogaden that is experiencing much of the meaningful development, shown in this thread.
Somali Region + Babiile Pictures & Videos
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AD3mHade4edifne/ Erer valley is breathtakingly beautifull
www.somalispot.com
Look at this, peddling propaganda before being shut down with a reality check
A single road now imagine how big Addis is as a city and you'll realize that 80% has zero roads or public infrastructure.
Behold '''The New China in Africa'', the economic powerhouse
There's a lot I don't like about cagjar. But he's making the smart choice by compelely disassociating himself from somali and playing it safe while quietly growing the region. They've made massive progress. I wouldn't bee surprised if they've contributed massively to Ethiopias economic growth over the last 5 years.A single road now imagine how big Addis is as a city and you'll realize that 80% has zero roads or public infrastructure.
Behold '''The New China in Africa'', the economic powerhouse
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pleased to see a good number of business people from Somali Reg included in the list of top 500 best performing taxpayers. In the 5 years before 2018, 605 investors with a capital of Birr 10m registered; after the reform, it is 2000+ investors with a capital of Birr 35billion. <a href="https://t.co/UZSvrrjjMg">pic.twitter.com/UZSvrrjjMg</a></p>— Mustafe M. Omer (@Mustafe_M_Omer) <a href="">October 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Together with Minister of Education, Dr. Birhanu Nega, launched the “education for generation” programme in Jigjiga. In the last 5 years, regional gov’t built 576 primary schools, 79 secondary schools, & 11 Boarding schools. This year, budget for education is increased by 40%. <a href="https://t.co/V2wj9eIPWW">pic.twitter.com/V2wj9eIPWW</a></p>— Mustafe M. Omer (@Mustafe_M_Omer) <a href="">July 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Hmm that's interesting information there it seems they are still living in their old agrarian ways peasants farming in the mountains but like you said if that's the case then why are they starving.Its fake GDP stats from the government and they often hide development under failed vanity projects that sent it deeper into debt.
Ethiopia economy fake
I was just looking at african countries gdp and I decided to take a look at ethiopias Wikipedia page. It's absolutely crazy it says their gdp is 250 billion. Which doesn't make any sense. Sp i looked around and apparently the ethiopian govt is reporting a gdp of 200 billion up from 163 last...www.somalispot.com
Post 2018 it's been practically downhill since the Tigray war
Post-2018 Ethiopia: state fragility, failure, or collapse? - PubMed
Owing to the multifaceted problems in which Ethiopia has been embroiled, such as war, displacement, and humanitarian crisis, writers arbitrarily use terms such as "state fragility," "state failure," and "state collapse" to represent the situation. This paper intends to determine what these...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I am not sure if he is playing it clever or if he is a traitor like most Somali regional leaders.
If he is doing this by playing it clever, May allah reward him because it has allowed Ogaden to make a lot of progress and be peaceful at the same time for the last 7 years. It shows they capitalized on what ONLF fought for. Unlike Abyi he has focused on expanding education, building universities, vocational schools, boarding schools, primary schools, hospitals.
He has launched and completed major road projects across different urban centers,
expanded region wide 24 hour electricity , built industries and affordable housing initiatives.
Further proof of Somali quarrying industry and housing developments: Reer Ogaden case study
I made the point that houses in the Greater Somali East Africa are generally better built then our neighbors due to key geographical advantages. - Geology: Somalia unlike other African countries has a geological landscape in many areas that allowed for available stone quarries that can be used...
www.somalispot.com
He is focusing on stuff that matters and not useless mega projects and stupid satellite city or whatever. Or image building, re-imagining the place as some super power utopia.
The fruit of this will show itself big time down the line, in terms of economic growth and productive gains. So we will see it the most visibly in the next few years.
When reer Ogaden begins to export gas next year especially.
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Ethiopia is technically bankrupt
I don't know if he's doing for a good reason. But I suspect a large part of it is the somali region elites have seen tangible growth and are now focused on just growing. The fruits of this are going to be enormous over the next decade. There are only 35 thousand schools in ethiopia. He opened 570 in 5 years . Just to put that into perspective, ethiopia had 30 thousand schools in 2013. For some reason they stopped building schools quickly because between 2008/2009 to 20012/2013. They went from 25 thousand schools to 30 thousand schools.
Famers are either displaced, or have unproductive yields from their harvest. Or much of food stock is looted by roaming militia's and monopolized by a few.
But they would have you still believe that Ethiopia is exporting enough agricutlural products to boost economic growth, it doesn't add up with reality.
But yeah they essentially live like feudal peasants and lords. There is study i always link
There is another study as well
Economic stagnation in Ethiopia, 14th-18th Centuries
The economic history of Ethiopia is one of the understudied themes of Ethiopian history. Although there are some invaluable studies on the economic ac…
Really enjoyed that read makes sense is it currently the same with how abiy summons thousands of soldiers to go as cannon fodder into the mountains that same old system can be seen today.Famers are either displaced, or have unproductive yields from their harvest. Or much of food stock is looted by roaming militia's and monopolized by a few.
But they would have you still believe that Ethiopia is exporting enough agricutlural products to boost economic growth, it doesn't add up with reality.
But yeah they essentially live like feudal peasants and lords. There is study i always link
There is another study as well
Economic stagnation in Ethiopia, 14th-18th Centuries
The economic history of Ethiopia is one of the understudied themes of Ethiopian history. Although there are some invaluable studies on the economic ac…www.sciencedirect.com
It looks like all our speculation on the state solwly collapsing are accurate at least to a certain extent. Right at the beginning of the video she mentions how tbe state is obsessed with consolidating power at the center and ignoring the periphery which she says begins 30 km outside addis abba. Very intresting detail he makes funny of the leaders of the amahea and ormo region and called them co-mayors of addis. Since they both live there .
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ethiopia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Ethiopia</a>: "The state has shrunk into itself." - Jawar Mohammed<br><br>Jawar Mohammed, in a discussion with Tsedale Lemma, founder of Addis Standard Publications and former editor-in-chief, stated that the way state power is conducted has changed. He said, "The state has changed. The… <a href="https://t.co/nUoo68GVsd">pic.twitter.com/nUoo68GVsd</a></p>— Addis Standard (@addisstandard) <a href="">January 2, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ethiopia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Ethiopia</a>: "The state has shrunk into itself." - Jawar Mohammed<br><br>Jawar Mohammed, in a discussion with Tsedale Lemma, founder of Addis Standard Publications and former editor-in-chief, stated that the way state power is conducted has changed. He said, "The state has changed. The… <a href="https://t.co/nUoo68GVsd">pic.twitter.com/nUoo68GVsd</a></p>— Addis Standard (@addisstandard) <a href="">January 2, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I've been trying to ring the alarm bells to these people for years but they'd rather obfuscate the reality of the situation for their own self comfort.
They said it's only a matter of time until Ethiopia has is own 1991 style collapse and we'll finally be able to get Somali Galbeed back
The fact is, Ethiopia is growing at an unprecedented rate. They have double our GDP per capita despite being landlocked with 100 million more people. They have 10 years on our life expectancy and they've sustained nearly 10% GDP growth year-on-year for most of this century. They've already overtaken Kenya as East Africa's largest economy and have only pulled further ahead since. The data doesn't lie, no matter how much some wish it did.
If we don't get our affairs in order immediately, Wallahi I don't think there will be a country on the map called Somalia by mid-century as we know it today. We have no national power grid, no large energy plants, no industry, no monetary policy, and no rail infrastructure. Yet some here think we're on the same level as Ethiopia that completed the GERD dam, that has a national power grid, rail infrastructure, multilane highways, waste to energy plants, and Air force with *fighter Jets*, the same country who damed up our rivers and controls our water flow, that has thousands of troops in our country dictating local politics. Wake up to reality, either we have a revolution that completely does away with the foreign imposed 4.5 FGS/Member state framework and bring in a government fit for the 21st century or we perish.
Those GDP growth states are largely understood to be fake and inflated. It fairly easy to pick it apart because their economy is just agriculturally based
It's like @hayran said , they do it to attract foreign direct investments and to create positive image of the country via western lobbying.
See this blog they republished articles from London School of Economics, The Economist and The New York Review of Books, all pointing that the Ethiopian regime is fabricating statistics
Ethiopia’s fake economic growth borrows from ENRON’s accounting – Oromian Economist
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Ethiopia’s economic growth borrows from ENRON’s accounting
Ethiopia's economic growth borrows from ENRON's accounting | | Africa at LSE
J Bonsa analyses Ethiopia's economic growth over the last ten years. More than 70 people have been killed and dozens wounded in an ongoing crackdown on peaceful protesters in Oromia. One of the ublogs.lse.ac.uk
It all collapses when you deep how many people are dying from famine and they are suffering food shortage, yet their economy is largely just agricultural based.
How are they at the same time producing soo much greater crop yield to export in large sums to attract hard currency? and boost economic and gdp growth. It makes literally no sense at all.
Infact the reality is that they only produce bare minimum subsistence and have to rely on emergency food aid in greater parts
The GERD dam practically failed and they lost a ton of money, they didn't get back from that investment. Same with the other mega projects.
Mega corruptions in mega projects: Debating the... | F1000Research
Read the original article in full on F1000Research: Mega corruptions in mega projects: Debating the dynamics of dam construction in Ethiopia
"After the dam, nothing is good": How Ethiopia's mega project devastated centuries of survival strategies | African Arguments
Until recently, indigenous groups in the Omo Valley planted crops, foraged, hunted, fished, and shared food. Now they're starving.
africanarguments.org
A Crumbling Addis Metro Reveals Failed Promise of China’s Billions in Africa
The project may have prioritized short-term political goals over long-term operational sustainability Source: Bloomberg A $475 million light-rail system serving Ethiopia’s Addis Ababa shows how som…
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It's not surprise why these Mega projects often fail, because the government do not invest in improving the skills, wealth and educational outcomes and needs of their citizens. They just waste money or go into debt.
You seriously can't believe they actually sustained 10% growth for most of this century. Even the ethiopians don't belive that. That wss the kind of growth rate that china had. Look how much china transformed between 1980 and 2000. That was 20 years of near 10% growth. If the economy was actually booming that much why did they have those protests in 2011? why would they not be able to pay back a 30 million dollar debt payment in 2024 and instead they were forced to have the imf bail them out? Just go look at the ethiopian subreddit and see how the locals talk about how diffcult life in addis has become.
The only real thing Ethiopia has over Somalia is its military. Otherwise the country is a complete dump outside of Addis Ababa. I'm not sure why you think a country with rampant poverty, low literacy, undeveloped infastructure, low GDP per capita, and high debt is far ahead of Somalia. The fact is, they keep shooting themselves in the foot with the civil wars they have every decade.
You also ignore the improvements Somalia has been making as well not to mention it will likely soon start exporting oil in the next decade which will massively boost its GDP like you saw with Guyana. If Somalia stays within its upward trend, it has a brighter future than Ethiopia which has been stuck in on and off warfare since the 60s.
Jawar Mohammed is probably the most honest Ethiopian politician.
Their military has barely any control outside of Addis, and it depended in parts on the revenue made in the peacekeeping mission in Somalia, now that they been removed it's going to hurt their military even more.
Plus much of that growth rate in China happened when it transition from an agrarian economy to an industrial manufacturing based economy.
It's not just china but of the 16 countries with a 100 million + people. Everyone who has at least a 3k gdp per capita got there through manufacturing to some extent.
