The founder of Political Irirism in 1960
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, shaqo danyeer aka monkey business
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Dadkaan ahay waa Duriyad Saare iyo Dawolad! π
@The Midlands
He was smart to use the Irir card!
My Hawiye brethren use it for political stance not Inciting violence which is more respectable!
He was smart to use the Irir card!
My Hawiye brethren use it for political stance not Inciting violence which is more respectable!
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@The Midlands there is no mention of irir in any oral history or gabay or sayid would mention it but he didn't nor do the irir have any mentions of it in their oral history. U just collected naked clans living with darod and slapped samaale on them to increase your political capital. The other fact is, majority of these irir r extinct or only exist in name only not in a real territorial sense.
@The Midlands if u guys allied with darod we cud recover the nation. U do have a point hawadle r more smarter then the irir clans and have some sort of legacy to refer back too. Even hiranonline longevity n archive is impressive. PL does that too. Where-as the other clowns flip flop, cancel, or die away leaving no digitial presence for their descendant even tho they know this is the INFORMATION AGE. Dagaalku waa DATA.
Sxb darods created ethio-eritrea, we told em to carve out like djibouti/somalia. Meles n eritrea were in hamar under our guidance, those nations is our legacy not their own. SYL is founder by keenadiid descendants who wanted self rule back lol. 2nd republic founded by us again in 2004 will be in the tarikh. The only thing u guys created which will be cancelled as is always the case, 4.5 which isnt constitutional. Anything irir does way is tirtiraysa no legacy 4 their kids except hawadle which left them irir foundation.
War raggani darod love LEGACY so our kids can boast to other somali kids our ancestors instill that when u in power leave legacy so next darod generation can inherit it indirectly and boast and use it to come back to power.
Sxb darods created ethio-eritrea, we told em to carve out like djibouti/somalia. Meles n eritrea were in hamar under our guidance, those nations is our legacy not their own. SYL is founder by keenadiid descendants who wanted self rule back lol. 2nd republic founded by us again in 2004 will be in the tarikh. The only thing u guys created which will be cancelled as is always the case, 4.5 which isnt constitutional. Anything irir does way is tirtiraysa no legacy 4 their kids except hawadle which left them irir foundation.
War raggani darod love LEGACY so our kids can boast to other somali kids our ancestors instill that when u in power leave legacy so next darod generation can inherit it indirectly and boast and use it to come back to power.
@The Midlands Even OGS r impressive leaving a long lasting legacy somali philosophy started with them under Sayid that we packaged up into SYL. Plus their wardheer news is as old as hell leaving behind archive n storage for ogaden interests lol. Even dhulos left the legacy of what soldier quality means as all our state forces are named after them.
All Darods tend to leave a legacy even siyad barre and his govt style is still felt nation wide plus he created ethio-eritrea-djibouti is undoubtable thats @TekNiKo @Dalalos_ibn_Adali @cow legacy they still use it to get back to power milking it with somalis who say post siyad was hell kkkkkk. Thats why i love legacy leaders.
Hawadle left irirism which was used for 4.5(dir n hag getting half parliament) but since hawadle wasnt consulted, 4.5 isnt constitutional and as usual it will leave no trace when constitution is finalized by guess who those WHO CREATED IT. Yes Majerten another legacy. Hawadle as an ally will be useful to strip the brain away from hawiye n dir.
I would bring hawadle to Garowe to discuss state craft since they are aware of the importance of legacy work like irir legacy
All Darods tend to leave a legacy even siyad barre and his govt style is still felt nation wide plus he created ethio-eritrea-djibouti is undoubtable thats @TekNiKo @Dalalos_ibn_Adali @cow legacy they still use it to get back to power milking it with somalis who say post siyad was hell kkkkkk. Thats why i love legacy leaders.
Hawadle left irirism which was used for 4.5(dir n hag getting half parliament) but since hawadle wasnt consulted, 4.5 isnt constitutional and as usual it will leave no trace when constitution is finalized by guess who those WHO CREATED IT. Yes Majerten another legacy. Hawadle as an ally will be useful to strip the brain away from hawiye n dir.
I would bring hawadle to Garowe to discuss state craft since they are aware of the importance of legacy work like irir legacy
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The terrorist state of Somaliland is backtracking from irrirism and denouncing in a futile effort to save their economy. Irrirism may have political benefits for them, but economically they are in big trouble as they rely on Daarood for trade and safe passage.
Anyone could have told them this.
"Somaliland is about to become bankrupt"
Anyone could have told them this.
"Somaliland is about to become bankrupt"
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I love partnership with Mj and OG through DDS trade routes not All Daarood.
@The Midlands Im deep in search of Somalia trust period. I know SYL was created in 43, preceding the 50-60 trust period which HG try to boast as the founding of the republic period. He himself abdullahi issa clan were under keenadiid lol, showing any source of good or legacy from them is from PL inspiration. SYL crafted the nation wasn't just a HISBI that came later, it preceded the trust period.
The governor n founder yasin ali sharmarke was deep at work creating the civilian govt structures and sent this @killerxsmoke folk to give it national face only and deliver independence. Kinda like how we r doing state craft till today for somalia while their running around bragging on 5 year post and xaa cuna mentality, leaving no legacy work for their future descedants. Their descendants will say wat did u guys ever do in somalia not knowing they wasted it with 'xaa cuna' leaving NO TRACE of their time period. Unlike hawadle left behind their irir if u didnt we wud be owning them all. Hawiye ma arkan evidenceka and repeat the past focusing on short term president n xaa cuna and every successive generation has nothing to look back too and darods keep bragging to their kids they were naked.
The governor n founder yasin ali sharmarke was deep at work creating the civilian govt structures and sent this @killerxsmoke folk to give it national face only and deliver independence. Kinda like how we r doing state craft till today for somalia while their running around bragging on 5 year post and xaa cuna mentality, leaving no legacy work for their future descedants. Their descendants will say wat did u guys ever do in somalia not knowing they wasted it with 'xaa cuna' leaving NO TRACE of their time period. Unlike hawadle left behind their irir if u didnt we wud be owning them all. Hawiye ma arkan evidenceka and repeat the past focusing on short term president n xaa cuna and every successive generation has nothing to look back too and darods keep bragging to their kids they were naked.
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@The Midlands when they kicked out our civilians from hamar, they kicked u guys out too. We shud tell HAGS if u dont agree with hawadle ha noo imaanin, its pointless cuz if they hate u, they will hate us also since the cycle of civil war shows if darod leaves hawadle is second to leave.
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You are still enamoured with Irrirism, admit it.
Not exactly. im pro UPD party led by Hassan Sheikh so all i care about is Dir/Isaaq votes going to this party. SL was forced to abandon its old claims and is economically Sagxada no longer able to fund Al Shabab so why we will not take advantage of this opportunity.You are still enamoured with Irrirism, admit it.
On the other hand our relationship with PL and DDS is for regonal trade and security. The two are different things.
Trade/security r lifeline blood 4 political interest also locally/regionally/globally this is a well known rule, cuz if u play politics for other side u harm the trade/security lifeline u need to survive, u will need to find a balance. 4 example u cud get sna/hs/gm to attack PL from south n SNM from north, but then u lose ur trade-security interest also. Then u may eat each other like 91
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No we haven't left Xamar we had waax in Wadajir defending it all these years. Our clash was only with HG and Abgaals supported us against them i dont call that Hawadle vs Hawiye war. Im fine in Xamar all i need is regional allies like PL and DSS. Hawadle have changed they r in the middle now longer HAG or USC. Our real location is between Daarood in our North(DDS) and Hawiye in our East and south we should benefit from both.
Im fine in Xamar all i need is regional allies like PL and DSS. Hawadle have changed they r in the middle now longer HAG or USC. Our real location is between Daarood in our North and Hawiye in our East and south we should benefit from both.
Im not sure why they fight civilians as evident by SNM just attacking las anod not the actual soldiers. Plus their were no darod soldiers in hamar other then morgan n the state forces who were mostly marehan only. SPM Was even anti siyad. PL was neutral and not even armed. Im suprised by this tactic does it mean their scared of our dhagax eating nomad base which is a 'qaarad' size in comparison to galgaduud
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i did not understand well but Siyaad Barre regime targeted the civilians more than any other group like the poisoning of omar Mahamuud wells, annihilating Hargeysa, killing 6000 people in Baledweyne and destroying the entire EASTERN side of the city i dont wanna post it here search in youtube the holocaust of Baladweyne.
When did the hiraan xasuuq start ? the waamo jubaland one started in 1985 first on the cawlyahan in gedo then spread to lower juba in the pretext of fighting the spm that fled from gedo into lower juba. Itβs mind blowing how the OG in jubaland had one front against siyad bare and the red berets and in bakool all the way to hiraan had another front against Hawiye and another one in waqoyi galbeed against isaaq and another one against the Dir around luuq to somali galbeed. On top of that we Weβre fighting the derg Ethiopian communist heavily armed by the Soviets. We probably lost minimum over 100k people within 10 years.
