The Ruined town of Maduuna, Somaliland

[horumar]

"Amongst the Somalis there was a tribe called Habr Magadi to whom the Imam demanded a tax. They refused, ambushed on roads and devastated the land. The Imam advanced until a place called Ra'bud - between the territory of the Muslims and the Infidels - as if he wished to march against Abyssinia, then he whirled toward the land of the Somali raiders (Habr Magadi), they fled. He continued until a day's distance to the sea, plundered their ample territory which he ravaged and then returned."

"The Imam took the matter to heart, he gathered an army and marched against the land of Somalis until he arrived at the Habr Magadi who cut roads and plundered the property of Muslims. He defeated them for a second time and took their wealth, he destroyed their cities which he reduced to ashes, then returned to his country."

This was the Isaaq during the 15th century. It's ironic how people who fought against the Adal Empire and looted Muslims are now claiming it as their history. Outrageous.

Habr Magadi? If you mean Habar Magaadle then that is only a portion of Isaaq. You are filled with qabyaalad it is not even shocking. I will expose your fake darood history little man!

 

[ethan bradberry]

The only person who turned this thread political is you, not me. I merely corrected your mistake that Maydh was inhabited by CG during the time of Adal when it's clearly mentioned in Futah al Habash that it was a Harti deegan. Unless of course you're going to accuse a book written 500 years ago of qabyaalad.

Habr Magadi? If you mean Habar Magaadle then that is only a portion of Isaaq. You are filled with qabyaalad it is not even shocking. I will expose your fake tarud history little man!

hes trying to undermine our history man . Plus didn't habar magaadle participated and helped imam gurey?

 

[horumar]

hes trying to undermine our history man . Plus didn't habar magaadle participated and helped imam gurey?

They love to lie and make up history that suits them. Don't worry walaal, i will not let this reject try to ruin Somalinimo

 

[jugjugwacwac]

"Amongst the Somalis there was a tribe called Habr Magadi to whom the Imam demanded a tax. They refused, ambushed on roads and devastated the land. The Imam advanced until a place called Ra'bud - between the territory of the Muslims and the Infidels - as if he wished to march against Abyssinia, then he whirled toward the land of the Somali raiders (Habr Magadi), they fled. He continued until a day's distance to the sea, plundered their ample territory which he ravaged and then returned."

"The Imam took the matter to heart, he gathered an army and marched against the land of Somalis until he arrived at the Habr Magadi who cut roads and plundered the property of Muslims. He defeated them for a second time and took their wealth, he destroyed their cities which he reduced to ashes, then returned to his country."

This was the Isaaq during the 15th century. It's ironic how people who fought against the Adal Empire and looted Muslims are now claiming it as their history. Outrageous.

Or how about this from futuux al-xabash.

”He sent (another messenger) to the tribe of Marraihan whose chieftain was Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam*, and he also sent (messengers) to the outlying Provinces to spur them on to the jihad, for God, and in the way of the Most High God.


Then Hirabu the chieftain of the Somali tribe of Marraihan, killed one of the equerries of the sultan ‘Umar Din when he was in Nageb. The imam heard about what Hirabu had done, and he said to the Sultan ‘Umar Din, ‘This Somali has acted treacherously towards you and killed your equerry.’ So the imam, and the sultan with him, prepared himself for an expedition and set out and arrived at the country of the Somalis, as far as Kidad. Hirabu. meantime, had fled and was hiding in his own country.The imam asked the sultan, ‘What shall we do now? I am going to send for him to hand over the horses, and to pay the blood-money. If he does so, then all is well: if he does not, then I shall go against him, while you go back to your country.’ So the imam sent to Hirabu to hand over the horses, and to pay the blood-money to some sharifs of the family of Ba’ Alawi, the Husainites, may God bless us through their means.”


the Marraihan was, however, wavering. Their chieftain was a man fond of intrigue and procrastination. Extremely wily, he loved double-dealing and swindles.
The imam organised some of his soldiers and went to the Marraihan and confronted Hirabu and his tribe and said to him: ‘Why are you lagging behind in coming on the jihad? Hirabu complained about his plight, and excused himself on the grounds of his poverty-stricken state.

”Now, having finished this, let us return to the earlier narrative, and look at what happened during the Somali campaign.When news of the imam’s leaving for the outlying provinces of Abyssinia reached them, a certain person, by name Hirabu, a chief of one of the Somali tribes called Marraihan, had arrived half-way along the route to the country of Harar. After verifying the departure of the imam to the land of Abbyssinia, he doubled back and returned to his own country.”

Daaroods (some, not all) really need to chill on trying to use revisionist history to make Isaaqs look like cowards and traitors, cuz anyone can play that game.

 

[ethan bradberry]

They love to lie and make up history that suits them. Don't worry walaal, i will not let this reject try to ruin Somalinimo

All these daroods are making wiki pages and rewriting history

 

[jugjugwacwac]

hes trying to undermine our history man . Plus didn't habar magaadle participated and helped imam gurey?

Yes, the Habar Magaadle sent their best warriors to fight alongside Imaam Ahmed. And to be fair the Mareexaan fought bravely alongside the Imaam as well. I was just showing @Prince of Lasanod that anyone can play that cheap game of revisionist history that some Daaroods are so fond of doing.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Or how about this from futuux al-xabash.

”He sent (another messenger) to the tribe of Marraihan whose chieftain was Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam*, and he also sent (messengers) to the outlying Provinces to spur them on to the jihad, for God, and in the way of the Most High God.


Then Hirabu the chieftain of the Somali tribe of Marraihan, killed one of the equerries of the sultan ‘Umar Din when he was in Nageb. The imam heard about what Hirabu had done, and he said to the Sultan ‘Umar Din, ‘This Somali has acted treacherously towards you and killed your equerry.’ So the imam, and the sultan with him, prepared himself for an expedition and set out and arrived at the country of the Somalis, as far as Kidad. Hirabu. meantime, had fled and was hiding in his own country.The imam asked the sultan, ‘What shall we do now? I am going to send for him to hand over the horses, and to pay the blood-money. If he does so, then all is well: if he does not, then I shall go against him, while you go back to your country.’ So the imam sent to Hirabu to hand over the horses, and to pay the blood-money to some sharifs of the family of Ba’ Alawi, the Husainites, may God bless us through their means.”


the Marraihan was, however, wavering. Their chieftain was a man fond of intrigue and procrastination. Extremely wily, he loved double-dealing and swindles.
The imam organised some of his soldiers and went to the Marraihan and confronted Hirabu and his tribe and said to him: ‘Why are you lagging behind in coming on the jihad? Hirabu complained about his plight, and excused himself on the grounds of his poverty-stricken state.

”Now, having finished this, let us return to the earlier narrative, and look at what happened during the Somali campaign.When news of the imam’s leaving for the outlying provinces of Abyssinia reached them, a certain person, by name Hirabu, a chief of one of the Somali tribes called Marraihan, had arrived half-way along the route to the country of Harar. After verifying the departure of the imam to the land of Abbyssinia, he doubled back and returned to his own country.”

Daaroods (some, not all) really need to chill on trying to use revisionist history to make Isaaqs look like cowards and traitors, cuz anyone can play that game.

Nur ibn Mujahid ibn ‘Ali ibn ‘Abdullah al Dhuhi Suha (Harari አሚር ኑር, Somali: Nuur ibn Muujahiid, Arabic: نور بن مجاهد السمروني) (literally, "Light"; died 1567), of the Ahl Suhawyan clan of the Somali tribe of Marehan Darod.[1] He was known for marrying the widow of Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi (also known as Ahmed Gurey and Ahmad Gragn), he also succeeded Imam Ahmad as leader of the Muslim forces fighting Christian Ethiopia.

Considered a saint from Harar, Mujahid was called the Sahib al-Fath al-Thani, or "Master of the Second Conquest". When Imam Ahmad, who had led the Muslim conquest of the Ethiopian Highlands, was killed in 1543, the Muslim forces fell back in confusion to Harar. Nur, the dead leader’s sister’s son, married Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi's firebrand widow, Bati del Wambara, and undertook to renew the fortunes of the Muslim city, which had been sacked in 1550. Promoted to Emir around 1550-51, he spent the next two years reorganizing his forces, and constructing the defensive wall which still surrounds the city.[3]

In 1554-55, Nur departed on a Jihad, or Holy War, in the eastern Ethiopian lowlands of Bale, and Hadiya. In 1559, he invaded Fatagar, where he fought against the Ethiopian emperor Galawdewos, and killed him in battle. Nur continued fighting for 12 years until, according to legend, at Gibe he said "Kaffa!", or "Enough!", and returned to Harar. Some believe the province is called Kaffa for this reason.
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The two most feared tribes were of Gerri and Harti. According to the book the Gerri are all horsemen knights whereas the Harti are popular infantry men who are ferocious fighters. The author compares the Harti to a famous Arab knight whose name was Hamzah al-Jufi.

On the left was the Somali tribe of Harti, from the people of Mait; a people not given to yielding. There were three hundred of them, famous among the infantry as stolid as swordsmen.....One of the Arabs called Hamzah al-Jufi engaged in a battle to the death in front of the Imam of the Muslims. He was one of the footsoldiers and stood his ground and stood the test, confronting war with a full heart. He never struck one infidel whom he did not unhorse, dead. He killed so vast a number of them in the middle of the river, that the river water was turned red by the blood. The whole tribe of Harti was like him. Page 78.

 

[John Michael]

Interesting.

What does maduuna mean I wonder, it sounds foreignish?

 

[jugjugwacwac]

Nur ibn Mujahid ibn ‘Ali ibn ‘Abdullah al Dhuhi Suha (Harari አሚር ኑር, Somali: Nuur ibn Muujahiid, Arabic: نور بن مجاهد السمروني) (literally, "Light"; died 1567), of the Ahl Suhawyan clan of the Somali tribe of Marehan Darod.[1] He was known for marrying the widow of Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi (also known as Ahmed Gurey and Ahmad Gragn), he also succeeded Imam Ahmad as leader of the Muslim forces fighting Christian Ethiopia.

Considered a saint from Harar, Mujahid was called the Sahib al-Fath al-Thani, or "Master of the Second Conquest". When Imam Ahmad, who had led the Muslim conquest of the Ethiopian Highlands, was killed in 1543, the Muslim forces fell back in confusion to Harar. Nur, the dead leader’s sister’s son, married Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi's firebrand widow, Bati del Wambara, and undertook to renew the fortunes of the Muslim city, which had been sacked in 1550. Promoted to Emir around 1550-51, he spent the next two years reorganizing his forces, and constructing the defensive wall which still surrounds the city.[3]

In 1554-55, Nur departed on a Jihad, or Holy War, in the eastern Ethiopian lowlands of Bale, and Hadiya. In 1559, he invaded Fatagar, where he fought against the Ethiopian emperor Galawdewos, and killed him in battle. Nur continued fighting for 12 years until, according to legend, at Gibe he said "Kaffa!", or "Enough!", and returned to Harar. Some believe the province is called Kaffa for this reason.
_______

The two most feared tribes were of Gerri and Harti. According to the book the Gerri are all horsemen knights whereas the Harti are popular infantry men who are ferocious fighters. The author compares the Harti to a famous Arab knight whose name was Hamzah al-Jufi.

On the left was the Somali tribe of Harti, from the people of Mait; a people not given to yielding. There were three hundred of them, famous among the infantry as stolid as swordsmen.....One of the Arabs called Hamzah al-Jufi engaged in a battle to the death in front of the Imam of the Muslims. He was one of the footsoldiers and stood his ground and stood the test, confronting war with a full heart. He never struck one infidel whom he did not unhorse, dead. He killed so vast a number of them in the middle of the river, that the river water was turned red by the blood. The whole tribe of Harti was like him. Page 78.

What does this have to do with my post?

 

[waraabe]

back to the thread before the shuban attack

really interesting, I would love to fund experts dig around these historical places and find out what they can

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

What does this have to do with my post?

A few Marehan may have rebelled against the Imam, but men like Nur Ibn Mujahid who killed the Ethiopian Emperor was also a famous Marehan leader who became the leader of Adal after Ahmed Gurey died.

 

[ethan bradberry]

What does this have to do with my post?

I think he's trying to say that maydh belongs to Harti which means isaaqs don't have much to do with the history of maduuna. Or something like that

 

[horumar]

Interesting.

What does maduuna mean I wonder, it sounds foreignish?

It sounds similar to the arabic for medina which means city, not sure though.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

A few Marehan may have rebelled against the Imam, but men like Nur Ibn Mujahid who killed the Ethiopian Emperor was also a famous Marehan leader who became the leader of Adal after Ahmed Gurey died.

Are u being deliberatley obtuse? Obviously not all of the Mareexaan rebelled. A lot of them fought bravely alongside the Imaam. But I can admit that because I'm just and not blinded by clan hatred. You for some reason can't do the same because u made it seem like the Habar Magaadle were rebels who fought against the Adal sultanate when you very well know that they were integral to the Imaam's wars.

 

[horumar]

Are u being deliberatley obtuse? Obviously not all of the Mareexaan rebelled. A lot of them fought bravely alongside the Imaam. But I can admit that because I'm just and not blinded by clan hatred. You for some reason can't do the same because u made it seem like the Habar Magaadle were rebels who fought against the Adal sultanate when you very well know that they were integral to the Imaam's wars.

Leave him alone, this kid copies and pastes information from wikipedia and has no useful knowledge, whatsoever. He ignores reason and facts. Just look how he derailled this thread, and made it about him. Pathetic, but typical behaviour from the likes of him.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Are u being deliberatley obtuse? Obviously not all of the Mareexaan rebelled. A lot of them fought bravely alongside the Imaam. But I can admit that because I'm just and not blinded by clan hatred. You for some reason can't do the same because u made it seem like the Habar Magaadle were rebels who fought against the Adal sultanate when you very well know that they were integral to the Imaam's wars.

Personally I don't even believe that they were Isaaq, historians such as Richard Pankhurst said that they were most likely Habar Makadur of the Gadabursi. It seems more plausible to me.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

Personally I don't even believe that they were Isaaq, historians such as Richard Pankhurst said that they were most likely Habar Makadur of the Gadabursi. It seems more plausible to me.

lol