I dont see Pakistanis or Arabs celebrating and laughing when a Muslim from their country of a different clan or tribe is killed by say a drone strike. You only see this with Somalis. Dont preach somalinimo to me and call me a self hater when the vast majority of you also do not care about Somali lives and many of you even engage in mocking the deaths of Muslims out of a profound sickness in your hearts.
The self hate of the ummah somalis continue..
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You have confused the land for the people. The land is what is important here. That was the first qiblah of the Muslims. That is where nabi isa alayhi salam will descend. That is where the Dajjal will be defeated. That is also where one of three sacred masajid are located. The land is undoubtedly blessed. I have never alluded to Palestinian lives mattering more then Somali lives so I have no idea why you are even asking that question.
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Yes clan is a problem in Somalia and I and millions of others agree with you in your assesment. However, does this make it okay for you to use the problems we have and face a society to put down your people? Every community has a problem but you don't see others saying "oh my people did this to themselves so they don't deserve my sympathy"? No. One can argue the Arabs(including ethnic palestininans) are partly responsible for the state of Palestine today because they rejected a two state solution when they had the choice. You don't see Palestinians of this generations blaming their grand fathers for that do you? You don't see them abandon their people do you?
I want Palestine to be free but my I talk the way I talk not because I hate other Muslims or arabs or anyone but I am trying to make a point.
The problem with you is that there is no explanation as to why you have zero sympathy for your people who suffer worse tragedies than the worst Arab country. Yet you would ignore and completely disregard those problems. Why don't you talk about our problems? Majority of the Somalis back home suffer and they (the majority) are innocent and do not take part in tribal wars or crook governments. Why don't you plea for them as your heart aches for the Arabs?
Just to prove you are an Arab slave...how come you have never mentioned the Muslims of Burma who suffer the MOST in the globe today?
For you it is all about arab, not because somali qabyaalad, not because we are saying you owe us anything, not because you care about an ummah, your love all things arab has consumed you.
They do, for example the Shia in Syria made fun of the hunger and famine in the Sunni towns. They made this hashtag of food & famine. In Iraq the same thing. In Egypt the Christian and Muslim hated each and poke fun of each other. In Lebanon they ethnic cleansed each other. In Pakistan let me not speak about the tribalism and religious war. Plz don't show them as the angels and Somalis are Devils and demons. The Iraq government sold 300 Kurds girls to Egypt to work as sex workers in 80s. You don't know the dark history of ME
The main issue is that people dont even see it as a problem. There are many people on this forum who would gladly kill Somali Muslims in the name of their clan. They love clan and believe everything should be done for clan. I dont believe millions of people agree with my assessment. Just look at this topic right here. These are apparently kids who were born and raised in the west and have never seen Somalia and have that much hatred for other Somali Muslims based only on clan sentiments. At least Palestinians are united across even religious and ideological lines and understand their fundamental problems and look to making progress no matter how little it is. Despite 20 years of civil war Somalis refuse to even acknowledge the main problems why they are a failed state and are still fighting today for the same reasons they were fighting back in 1991. and before you try to absolve most Somalis of this crime do you realize how many Somalis used their social benefits in the countries they gained refugee status in as remittances to warlords to kill more Somali Muslims in the name of clan and tribe ??? I am sorry if I have given up on the country even if I keep all of the people in my dua. The Somali problem is self inflicted and if they decided to act like civilized people and put this tribal nonsense to the side once and for all they could establish a government that enforces order and brings peace and stability to the lives of the people.
I care for all of the Muslims. I dont even care to acknowledge your accusations of me as an 'Arab slave'. I readily admit Arabs and other Muslims will continue to be humiliated until we purify our creeds and return to the religion in its purest form and let go of all 'isms. As long as clannists exist which is almost all Somalis the country will never know peace and will forever be under the boot of the kuffar.
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You gave up on Somalia because of all the problems the somalis caused? I don't know you enough but I get the feeling you'd abandon your own child if he or she got a chronic illness that somehow inconveniences you. I am glad not every somali thinks like you. Sii soco continue your all things Arab are glory.
You only look/see the half empty glass but never see the Somalis who are patriots and risking their daily for Somalia. Shame looking for excuses to hate your country
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If you want people to return to the religion in its purest form then you better start preaching to YOUR people first. Goodness I think you've actually undergone a proper brainwashing experiment.
At least those are based on real fundamental differences in religion. The people of Somalia share the same heritage, ethnicity, religion, and even madhab and have been brutally killing each other for the past 25 or so years over clan. And their kids in the west who have been displaced from their homeland over this bloodbath have been indoctrinated with this evil and are keeping the ideology of clan is everything alive which shows the country has no hope of ever stabilizing anytime soon. Even though I am against senseless violence unless absolutely necessary you cannot compare people who kill each other over a difference of fundamental values and people who go to war with each other over clan.
What is the point of my people wont listen to me ??? I have been on here preaching for how many months??? I have been accused of being terrorist, a self hater, a salafi, and being other members. If your people refused to change and will continue to stick to the same customs that have destroyed their nation and made them the refugees of the world then at some point one needs to cut their losses and focus their energy on other things.
Not all of Somalis these in social media, listen to these people who are sacrificing their life http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2691044624/
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I'm not surprised, booty clapper doing what they do best. Don't they know they're the laughing stock of the Arab community and the Somali community, we Somalis don't need self loathing, insecure, Arab wannabe Somalis. I automatically dismiss the minute a Somali utters that they grew up in an Arab country.
As @Mercury no such thing as Ummah in this day and age.
There's more chance if Greater Somalia being revived than the Ummah being revived.
Every people for themselves. But the likes of @Sufiyan will still blindly follow this ummah crap. Arab salafists priorities Arabs. Same with Turks and Kurds etc. Somali salafists priorities Syrian refugees and Palestinians over Somalis.
There's more chance if Greater Somalia being revived than the Ummah being revived.
Every people for themselves. But the likes of @Sufiyan will still blindly follow this ummah crap. Arab salafists priorities Arabs. Same with Turks and Kurds etc. Somali salafists priorities Syrian refugees and Palestinians over Somalis.
I suppose that it is also all clans for themselves or all sub clans for themselves or in reality all sub sub sub clans for themselves right. That reality doesnt help your agenda does it. Face the harsh reality. The only Somalis who care about the struggles of your sub clan in Ethiopia and arent apart of your clan are the religious ones. I know it burns your soul but Islam is the only thing that binds all Somalis together and would have a Somali who is from a different clan than yours care about the struggles of your clan. Somalis generally have more love and less enmity for Muslims of different backgrounds than they do for Somalis of different clans and I dont think anyone here would doubt that reality. Most of these Somali regions would rather join a powerful khilafah that emerged in the middle east and swear loyalty to that amir than join a pan-Somali movement and government that promotes Somali nationalism. This is the cold hard truth that you need to embrace. You take the deen out of the equation and Somalis will just split themselves into countries that are founded by their sub sub sub clan. There will never be Somali unity without Islam.
Regg
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Somalians are the only one who slander each other as it is evident in this forum and the somnet. You don't see this happening in Pakistani or other ethnicity dominated forums, let alone Ummah Forum.
We all saw the threads here (Ummah member showed us) and somnet where we took a peek and view it as another version of Storm Front.
Focus on respecting each other instead of worrying about others mate. I would do it as a first priority tackling a bigger problem, disunity among you guys that is.
We all saw the threads here (Ummah member showed us) and somnet where we took a peek and view it as another version of Storm Front.
Focus on respecting each other instead of worrying about others mate. I would do it as a first priority tackling a bigger problem, disunity among you guys that is.
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Respecting Arab bootyclappers?
Go and ask for Sharia'ah in the West or something like all you Wahhabis do instead of wasting your time here
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