Seems accurate and you seem like a smart guy. How many bantus are in Somalia tho would you estimate because I heard they have a presence in pretty much ever state south of galguduud
The silent majority of the south have had enough
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Im more worried about the zak1 something guy. That guy is weird af. @Halimo Supremist seems to have fallen to the Somali ethnicity and somaliweyn bs. Why would an Abgaal in modern age give a f*ck about Somaliweyn?sheegato alert
Stop sullying the Abgaal name by pretending to be one of us
How am I weird........somaliweyn all the way it will always be the end goal
Why are you against it walaal ?
There is nothing in it for us. Our clan lives in Somalia proper our land is in Somalia proper. Our clan already has strategic debth bordered by friendly clans on all sides and the ocean. The only reason I will support Somaliweyn is if its a viable option economically. We should never be emotionally invested in the idea that is Somaliweyn.
Well economic reasons of course are non existence as we have the capital which is the wealthiest and most developed.
I support unity from an islamic perspective and believe if we cannot come together as a collective we will be destroyed by outsiders. That seems to be what is going on at the moment and will likely continue in the longterm.
No it doesn’t, wadani means patriotic and caring for all Somalis, not just ethnic Somalis, I am not a wadani but I love to call out hypocrisy, denying the right of Madowweyne who have adopted our deen and dhaqan is wrong, whats stopping us from using your mindset and saying “Only Somalis with arab lineage deserves rights” ? Keep it consistent
My post is targeted at those who claim to be “wadani” tbh & Bantus are everywhere but what seperates them is deen and dhaqan which they have inherited, lets apply what you believe to us diaspora,Bantuweeyn has all of Africa pretty much, nothing wrong with claiming Somalia for Somalis
Do you believe America or the UK can deport Somali refugees who were born and raised in the west back home despite them not knowing anything else but the west?
Diinta is sacrosanct I agree, but when you bring in religion you must follow it to the last ink meaning at the very least you should be advocating the unification of all muslim lands in the horn. The muslim Oromos and other Ethiopian muslims would be majority. Mixing diinta with politics is a dangerous game that almost never ends well.
Ethiopian muslims are a different ballgame as they are a separate ethnicity and Oromos are expansionists. We need to focus on our own people first before we can think of the wider ummah.
From the viewpoint of the religion. All muslims are brothers and sisters, the conflict between Oromo groups and Somali groups is no different than the conflicts between different Somali groups. There is no our Ummah and their Ummah there is only The Ummah. You are using religion to unify Somalis, but the very same religion will unify you with whole lots of people, among them the Jarreerweyne and Oromos you seem to loath for some reason.
My reasons for loathing them is valid and I have mentioned it many times. We shouldn't focus on uniting with people who we were never united with in the first place. Our people come first. Once we can get that in order then we can think about the next stek going forward. But we can't overstretch ourselves otherwise we will end up with nothing.
By all reason and logic a Shiidle is closer to you in every aspect except abtirsi(genetics) than most Somali clans. From historical viewpoint for us an Oromo or a Daarood made no difference. Somalis have never been united under a single state by your logic we shouldnt be in the future.
I think our lack of unity historically is a reason we have these problems today. Thst and a lack of islam being genuinely practised. We need to move forward from the previous mistakes and progress. We do a million things today our forefathers never did. Why is unity the only thing people are refusing to accept when its one of the most important ?
Neither were Germans, Italians, turks and many other groups. Nationalism is a new thing and since it worked for the west when implemented correctly it can work for us too
@Leila he spoke with standard pronunciation like North not central even usef words like iminka. Spoken like a student of InaGodane
If there is a notion of citizenship the Shiidle are closer. They are closer thanCiise and other clans accross internation borders.
They are closer linguistically and culturally. Maybe even religiously closer
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If there is a notion of citizenship the Shiidle are closer. They are closer thanCiise and other clans accross internation borders.
They are closer linguistically and culturally. Maybe even religiously closer
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What do we share with Gadabuursi to use as an example which justifies unity with them? Virtually nothing. Historically we literally never crossed paths with them, we don't know anything about them, they are complete foreigners to us who just so happen to share the same language (but different dialect) with us.
Your weird racial supremacist views and somaliweyn crap is embarrassing, leave that dumb shit for twitter. I bet if you had the chance you'd be happy to relocate hostile clans to where Bantus live in Shabellaha because they are "Somali".
Somaliland, Somali region of Ethiopia, and NFD Kenya have nothing to do with us. Galmudug, Hirshabelle, Shabeellaha Hoose and Benaadir is what matters for the Mudulood ethnicity and Puntland, Jubbaland and Eelayland are our subjects.
Also how can you talk about Islam when the Bantus in Somalia are Muslim? You can't be a ethno-supremacist and pretend to be all about the deen at the same time
