The Truth Behind So-Called "Cushitic Unity" That's Peddled By Young Somali Men

[Factz]

True or not, I have no idea, but people on here like to joke the reason Habesha eat Kitfo is because of some standoff with Somalis, and in the same breathe they speak about Ogaden. Two secs later they’re posting dead pictures of other Somalis. Behold the tribal mind.

European countries have had worse grievances against each other, killing each other with much better technology than any Habesha/Somali conflict, and yet now they’re allies. There’s nothing you could rattle off that can be worse.

Putting lack of hatred for Habesha behind some thirst for women, which mind you is normal, is still no argument.

You're jumping all over the place and can't keep your argument straight. No one is against marrying the Habesh people afterall this is the diaspora so you are free to do what you like. You're basing your perception in the west but let me tell you it does not reflect the same back home.

No one is against bettering the relationship between Somalia and Ethiopia.

@Armadillo point was those who wish to share a country with Ethiopia are mainly doing it for their disgusting desires for Habesh women and this is well known.

I see now I’m talking to delusional posters. Good luck. Thread unwatched.

After seeing your absurd comments. You're the most delusional person on here with very poor knowledge. All your posts are based on emotions. You're not rational and don't bother responding with many paragraphs. I've lost brain cells reading your nonsensical comments.

 

[Somalinimo]

Obviously because they're our neighbours and closest to us culturally and wether u like it or not Ethiopia is and will continue to be the bastion of East Africa. We either build ties with them and get their help or we can leave shit as it is and post new hotels being built in Muqdisho as if we're progressing.

Sure that could be said for the current state of affairs. However that's not only subjective but not true economically. They're not the biggest economy because they're better. As a matter of fact we have the better resources and in the right conditions be far more developed even if we don't trade with Ethiopia a single grain a rice.

BTW You do realise Somaliweyn would make us the power in East Africa without a doubt.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Then what does it entail.

You're seriosuly asking that? The EU isn't controlled by one country alone lol.

 

[sahraanon]

this whole thread is stupid lmao. even the idea of people lusting over habesha women is stupid cause not many habesha girls are checking for a somali, so any guy lusting over them is clueless. habesha girls are barely even checking for their own men tbh

im also pretty sure the basis of a horn african unity is not based on habesha girls, but more so people similar to one another in both looks, culture and geogrpahy banding together. its not a groundbreaking concept, nearly every region on earth comprising of neighboring countries has something similar. the only horn african unity i can ever see being successful is ethiopia djibout + eritrea if its dictator falls and maybe sudan. somalia's way too chaotic and unreliable to be trusted in some sort of union.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Europeans set their differences aside but they never formed a country together.

That's factually incorrect. Euro history entails a lot of alliances and border changes. Plz go to a library.

 

[VixR]

this whole thread is stupid lmao. even the idea of people lusting over habesha women is stupid cause hardly any habesha girl is checking for a somali, so any guy lusting over them is clueless. habesha girls are barely even checking for their own men tbh.
im also pretty sure the basis of a horn african unity is not based on habesha girls, but more so people similar to one another in both looks, culture and geogrpahy banding together. its not a groundbreaking concept, nearly every region on earth comprising of neighboring countries has something similar. the only horn african unity i can ever see being successful is ethiopia djibout + eritrea if its dictator falls and maybe sudan. somalia's way too chaotic and unreliable to be trusted in some sort of union.

Thank you.

The delusion has been unreal thus far.

 

[Factz]

That's factually incorrect. Euro history entails a lot of alliances and border changes. Plz go to a library.

Yugoslavia? What happened to them?

Don't talk about small countries that were conquered and forced to join. Somalia is not small and unconquerable.

Also, Ethno-unitarian states in Europe don't count either.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Sure that could be said for the current state of affairs. However that's not only subjective but not true economically. They're not the biggest economy because they're better. As a matter of fact we have the better resources and in the right conditions be far more developed even if we don't trade with Ethiopia a single grain a rice.

BTW You do realise Somaliweyn would make us the power in East Africa without a doubt.

Are u talking about the oil under our feet? Read this.
Yes. Somalia has the oil going for them and with the amount they're saying is sitting down there, aound 100 billion barrels, it could be one of the world’s major oil producers. If everything goes as planned...Which isn't because formaajo is auctioning oil blocks in the country to foreign oil exploration comapanies. There was even a protest in London by diaspora about this.

Kenya has also alleged Somalia auctioned part of its oil blocks in the Indian Ocean to international companies at the London event, prompting Nairobi to recall its ambassador to Somalia and ordered the Somali ambassador in Nairobi to leave.

Currently, Somalia does not have clear petroleum laws that govern exploration. Currently, there is no revenue sharing formula between the federal and state governments, and the two levels of governments disagree over who has the right to offer licences to foreign oil exploration companies. Parliament is yet to approve a bill passed by the cabinet.

Due to instability and the absence of a formal regulatory structure, regional governments had taken advantage to reach deals with foreign firms.

Puntland, one of Somalia’s five federal member states in the northeast of the country, has an agency that regulates the oil sector. It is known as the Puntland Petroleum Agency. Unlike the federal government in Mogadishu, Puntland has an oil law that prevents Mogadishu from involvement.

AKA Somalia is prob gonna become another resource for foreign investors and both Kenya and PL aren't even allowing development

 

[Somalinimo]

U misunderstood from the start. With the amount of Somalis that had foreign wives wether it be Oromo or a type of xabasha then our numbers would be lower IF they weren't considered Somali. I don't get y u're changing something established for years. Somali father=Somali.
sbx

Edit: u would never tell the difference between a full Somali and a half xabash Somali.

And you have the problem of confusing anecdotes with common trends. Somalis have been almost exclusively breeding with only somalis for 10,000 years. This is why we're sometimes called "inbred" due to the lack of admixture with our neighbours. So the scientific literature doesn't go with your view nor does the history.

One simple test to see how much we mixed with our neighbours is looking at Omotic admixture. This is present in almost all non somalis in the horn. Doesn't require much explanation bit as you can see we don't mix very much. The very few people who took oromo slaves and habesha concubines is small. The ones who had children with them less and their descendants who claim somali are even fewer.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Yugoslavia? What happened to them?

Don't talk about small countries that were conquered and forced to join. Somalia is not small and unconquerable.

Ofc u pick the one anomaly lol.
Italy, Germany, Spain, Russia, etc. They're all examples.

 

[Arma]

I really think that y’all got the government/regime/elites in power confused for ordinary people and that’s sad.

Question: what ethnicity are most of the people who hold key governments positions in Ethiopia?

 

[Arma]

Am I lying though? You urself is married to an Ethio. Ethios don't bring their tribalism to the west.

My missus is not Ethio. Even if she were, I'd still be opposed to a political union with them.

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

this whole thread is stupid lmao. even the idea of people lusting over habesha women is stupid cause not many habesha girls are checking for a somali, so any guy lusting over them is clueless. habesha girls are barely even checking for their own men tbh, their culture is not as tight knit and conservative so noone stops the girls (and guys) marrying other people.
im also pretty sure the basis of a horn african unity is not based on habesha girls, but more so people similar to one another in both looks, culture and geogrpahy banding together. its not a groundbreaking concept, nearly every region on earth comprising of neighboring countries has something similar. the only horn african unity i can ever see being successful is ethiopia djibout + eritrea if its dictator falls and maybe sudan. somalia's way too chaotic and unreliable to be trusted in some sort of union.

When I was in college, banging habesha girls was our go to move with me and my American Somali friends. Prettier then most black girls and less conservative then Somali girls. Even then I didn’t care about no East African unity because of the shit that goes down in ogadenia. The point op was making is that some clowns want this unity because they want these girls (which I don’t understand why in the scheme of things).

 

[Factz]

Ofc u pick the one anomaly lol.
Italy, Germany, Spain, Russia, etc. They're all examples.

Read my comment again.

Ethno-unification of states in Europe don't count either. We're talking about Major European countries fighting each other never formed a country together. Maybe you misunderstood my point sxb.

It's like Franch people want to unite with Spanish people. Major European states of unification never happened before.

 

[AussieHustler]

Embrace it now, or suffer later.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

And you have the problem of confusing anecdotes with common trends. Somalis have been almost exclusively breeding with only somalis for 10,000 years. This is why we're sometimes called "inbred" due to the lack of admixture with our neighbours. So the scientific literature doesn't go with your view nor does the history.

One simple test to see how much we mixed with our neighbours is looking at Omotic admixture. This is present in almost all non somalis in the horn. Doesn't require much explanation bit as you can see we don't mix very much. The very few people who took oromo slaves and habesha concubines is small. The ones who had children with them less and their descendants who claim somali are even fewer.

Omotic levels don't prove jack though. We were mixing with Oromos way back when nobody even touched Omotes. You're missing many factors like The expantionism of Amhara and Oromo people that incorporated Omotes in their tribes...nothing to od with what we're discussing but ok.

 

[Arma]

If SL or PL, ever get a recognition, 1st order of business is too get strong enough to get Ogaden back. Place where is there so much oil. And who’s we, I’m not even from Ogaden region. Somalia can and will one day get Ogaden back. f*ck this Cushitic and habesha friend loving nonsense. And I don’t recognize British man made borders.

I'm afraid people like us, are a dying breed. These Somalis are lost.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

My missus is not Ethio. Even if she were, I'd still be opposed to a political union with them.

Ah ok. I saw someone saying that ws the case. Apologies.
btw I had to call u out on the non-existent German hatred in England...it's been long gone.

 

[Somalinimo]

Saying someone who is for Somali people should reflect their actions is entirely subjective and based on false assumptions. You can marry out and still do good for your people.

The point doesn't stand because he's not calling a union ship for his wife's nationality. His wife isn't even a horner and in our culture, the father can marry any nationality because the child is still Somali regardless if the child is half. You can raise them entirely as Somali and make them marry Somali.

If you don't agree with that then dispute that with the creator who set those rules.

Again the false idea that paternal descent is all that matters. Let me ask you this. Are you okay with somalis (hypothetically speaking) marrying Japanese women for 90000 years as long as we preserve the clan line of descent. That as long as the future has people who are paternally somali it doesn't matter even if they're 99.9999999% Japanese.

These paternal descent bullshit myths we made are a problem. All E1b somalis share an ancestor 4500 years ago and T somalis just over 2,000 years ago. Although somalis existing for 10,000 years and maybe existing without the clan structure at all for most our history. Does that mean those people aren't Somali? It all depends on what you believe. And this paternal nonsense isn't going to cut it.

 

[Somalinimo]

You're seriosuly asking that? The EU isn't controlled by one country alone lol.

You're confusing me with someone else. I wasn't talking about the EU. And I was talking directly to her. So unless you're going to answer the question interrupt.

 

[Factz]

this whole thread is stupid lmao. even the idea of people lusting over habesha women is stupid cause not many habesha girls are checking for a somali, so any guy lusting over them is clueless. habesha girls are barely even checking for their own men tbh

im also pretty sure the basis of a horn african unity is not based on habesha girls, but more so people similar to one another in both looks, culture and geogrpahy banding together. its not a groundbreaking concept, nearly every region on earth comprising of neighboring countries has something similar. the only horn african unity i can ever see being successful is ethiopia djibout + eritrea if its dictator falls and maybe sudan. somalia's way too chaotic and unreliable to be trusted in some sort of union.

You haven't seen Toronto. Somali men and Habesha women dating together is very common.

If you look at social media, it's mostly thirsty Somali men who call for a union with Ethiopia are doing it out of lust. Go to Twitter and Facebook.

It's never the Somali elite or an educted known Somali person who call for unity. I'm not denying your post either, seems reasonable but you know how Somalis are.