"The US funding and arming of 2006 Ethiopia invasion of Somalia was another Netanyahu call," Prof. Jeffrey Sachs"

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Remarkable how a number on here, albeit small, will still cheerlead for AY like their lives depend on it. Motivations are obvious, but it's still quite funny.

I guess Ethiopians are our friends in 2006, when they kill southerners, and our enemy today, when they want a slice of our sea.



To those who support the Ethiopian invasion in 2006(and those who don't), I've got a few questions:

- How do you rationalise Ethiopia's attempted annexation of Somali territory today, with Ethiopia's brutal invasion in 2006?

- Was the Ethiopia of then good to Somalis, and not have any nefarious intentions?

- Do you see the 2006 invasion as an overall good for Somalis?

- What do you think Ethiopia's intentions were?

- What were America, Ethiopia and Israeli interests in seeing Somalia invaded?

- Was AY just power hungry? If not, why join the Ethiopians, Americans and Israelis in invading the south?

Discuss.

 

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More on the Israeli involvement.

 

[Galool]

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@Idilinaa

 

[Galool]

What sane Somali thinks the 2006 invasion was a good thing? I have never heard of anyone claiming that.

 

[Idilinaa]

I have been dicussing this that much like the destabilization of the middle east. Destabilization of Somalia is connected to the wider Greater Isreal Agenda, that actively aid's Ethiopia.

Greater Israel Explained: The Israeli Plan to Conquer the Arab World (Somalia ties into this i'll explain)

Pay close attention to what he says at @11:35 , basically goes in on the false narrative of the middle east (Somalia is connected to this) He says: The Cartoonish caricature of ''The Middle East'' as a region that is hopelessly condemned to thousand year old ethnic and religious conflict is one...

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[Idilinaa]

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@Idilinaa

That Professor is on the money.

This security and logistical assistance to the Ethiopian government from the Isreali government still continues to this day

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Remarkable how a number on here, albeit small, will still cheerlead for AY like their lives depend on it. Motivations are obvious, but it's still quite funny.

I guess Ethiopians are our friends in 2006, when they kill southerners, and our enemy today, when they want a slice of our sea.



To those who support the Ethiopian invasion in 2006(and those who don't), I've got a few questions:

- How do you rationalise Ethiopia's attempted annexation of Somali territory today, with Ethiopia's brutal invasion in 2006?

- Was the Ethiopia of then good to Somalis, and not have any nefarious intentions?

- Do you see the 2006 invasion as an overall good for Somalis?

- What do you think Ethiopia's intentions were?

- What were America, Ethiopia and Israeli interests in seeing Somalia invaded?

- Was AY just power hungry? If not, why join the Ethiopians, Americans and Israelis in invading the south?

Discuss.

It's very simple and well documented that the intention and motives of Ethiopia was to destabilize Somalia and prevent a united strong government from forming that would be outside their sphere of influence and threat to their claim over Ogaden & sea access. AY saw the ICU just like he saw Jama the Puntland elected president as a threat to not only his power/position but also to his Ethiopian overlords that instituted him.
Whereas Americans were baited and manipulated into it in their ''War on Terror'' campaign.

Isreal's goal is also simple to curb threats to their control over the red sea from Muslims that surround them, so they can expand on and protect their Isreal project.

The CIA wrote the following: “𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘰𝘯𝘥 𝘣𝘦𝘵𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘌𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘢'𝘴 𝘊𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘳𝘶𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘐𝘴𝘳𝘢𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘣𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘰𝘧 𝘔𝘶𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘮 𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘳𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘤𝘵''

 

[Somali Saayid]

I don't support Itoobiyan invasion of Somalia nor do I support the ICU, however one of them is the lesser evil of the two

 

[Idilinaa]

I don't support Itoobiyan invasion of Somalia nor do I support the ICU, however one of them is the lesser evil of the two

The ICU who brought peace, stability, unity and fought corruptions and crime on behalf of all Somalis and enjoyed popular local support across is part of a lesser of two evil with the enemy Ethiopia who was doing the exact opposite and who massacred thousands of innocent Somalis in the process and gave rise to many problems we still grapple with today.

Miss me with that.

 

[Hotchick12]

israelís are so stupid with these wars they created muslim refugees all across the west, europe had hardly any muslims except france and britain with their ex colonies and now there’s an alliance with the left and muslims which they call marxist islamist and the growing political power that muslims will have in the west, now few western countries will not arrest him when he lands in their shore for icc, they though these western muslims will be a political stronghold on their former countries like iranians are, they plan but allah is the best of planners

now they want those western muslims to be kicked out with them saying jews are not safe in europe such losers

 

[Idilinaa]

israelís are so stupid with these wars they created muslim refugees all across the west, europe had hardly any muslims except france and britain with their ex colonies and now there’s an alliance with the left and muslims which they call marxist islamist and the growing political power that muslims will have in the west, now few western countries will not arrest him when he lands in their shore for icc, they though these western muslims will be a political stronghold on their former countries like iranians are, they plan but allah is the best of planners

ICC ruling was not some Muslim left alliance conspiracy to take down Netanyahu and Isreal.

There was literally Isreali Judges and legal experts part of that ruling.

Why the ICC Arrest Warrant for Netanyahu Isn't Anti-Semitic

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now they want those western muslims to be kicked out with them saying jews are not safe in europe such losers

Wasn't the whole premise of Isreal that they didn't feel safe in Europe to begin with?

There is no Muslms targetting Jews in Eurpe, but there is a whole far right white christian nationalist movement that is targeting them. Muslims are not the neo-nazis.

 

[Buddeh]

That also explains why ISIS (Isreali/US/UK) showed up around he time the UAE (Israeli in a khamis) setup the joint base in Socorta. They’re using it as a proxy to set up another American base on the exit of the red sea and entrance of the Indian Ocean. The US and its vassals will now control the Atlantic, Mediterranean, Red Sea and most of the Indian Ocean. The only thing that can be contested is the pacific but even then the US and allies control most island chains around china.

 

[Hotchick12]

That also explains why ISIS (Isreali/US/UK) showed up around he time the UAE (Israeli in a khamis) setup the joint base in Socorta. They’re using it as a proxy to set up another American base on the exit of the red sea and entrance of the Indian Ocean. The US and its vassals will now control the Atlantic, Mediterranean, Red Sea and most of the Indian Ocean. The only thing that can be contested is the pacific but even then the US and allies control most island chains around china.

do they really control the red sea no one can deter the houthis, all they are doing is antagonising and wasting resources, china gets first dibs on africa resources and india is going rogue with its russia. dealings as well as uae doing its own thing sudan and not giving a f*ck with the houthis next door

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Thank you USA for saving Somalia from Alqaida affiliate Islamic courts of hutu today they changed kastumo and call them self alshayadin

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

do they really control the red sea no one can deter the houthis, all they are doing is antagonising and wasting resources, china gets first dibs on africa resources and india is going rogue with its russia. dealings as well as uae doing its own thing sudan and not giving a f*ck with the houthis next door

I dont think the houthis are genuine at all. Good to see people denouncing AY Traitrous and extremely idiotic invasion of somalia. It was sickening the amount of people supporting on this website, I mean we got one of em above me. I also agree with the theory that the US was baited into supporting with the war on terror and all of that. This will all backfire on them

 

[repo]

It was the last opportunity to wipe out the Hawiye terrorists known as ICU. It was a shame we played pussyfoot with them. Now they are known as Hormuud and HAG. Disengagement is the only solution as AMISOM stops babysitting them in a few years and al-Shabaab takes over. History will repeat itself.

 

[DR OSMAN]

It's these type of Darods and Puntites which has turned me on them.

How in the world do u discuss Federalism and abdillahi yusuf vision for each region to cut its losses, focus on your territories and clans and entertain these clowns who want Islamic terrorism like ICU who also were irir samaalist 2 cities vs 90 cities model, secessionism which helps a single clan but all of that is done as jambals as they want a Sal balaar aideed and mahdi govt(1 town ruling 90 towns) and if unsuccessful then irir north and south(2 towns ruling 90 towns).

It's when you darods actually talk to these people thinking their some Genghis Khan winner in Somalia which isn't the case nor will ever be the case for centuries or mellenias to come, yet your sitting there and actually talking to them as if they have better alternative to abdillahi yusuf Federalism which is a win win political settlement for all Somalis vs their winner and loser Genghis Khan shit. Their nothing in Federalism darods get uniquely to themselves vs other clans unlike their irir samaale shit disguised in ICU, usc, snm crap.

As long as I see Darods ever entertain these people my vengeance on them will never end.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Just Drop A Nuke on Hargeisa and Mogadishu and Djibouti seeking a silly irrational khayrul masul political models that promote Irir samaale or Sal balaar all disguised in shabab, icu, inside federal politics like 4.5.

This is a great crime on their own ppl by their careless leaders who refuse to accept their no winner or loser in Somalia so there no room for any Genghis Khan politics here and cut your fucking losses and focus on your clan and territory. Hadee haday taa garan karin waxay garan karan garan maaye drop a fuckin nuke on these two towns and let 90 other towns move on.

Just drop a nuke on these two towns don't let 90 somali towns who just want cut their losses and focus on their own clans and territories and move on suffer their irrational leader politics.

 

[DR OSMAN]

My Hate For Somali will never end as long as I see them entertaining these idiots who are usc and snm politics who both hold two different cards at all time.

One is secession for isaaq benefit vs hawiye responding Sal balaar aideed n ali mahdi Cairo conference. Centralism vs Secession but then they compromise we can't get what we want let's go back to irir samaale 2 cities controlling 90 cities.

They then agree to use icu, shabab, usc, snm, Al islah, ictisam, or any jambal yes it's a jambal u dummy to keep the nation chaotic and unstable to discredit Abdullahi Yusuf Federalism as unworkable which is the only workable solution in a stalemate nation where each clan and territory just cuts their losses and focuses on its each territories and shares anything that is national or federal. How is that clannist? do PL or JL enjoy anything unique to themselves that other Somali clans don't? no listen their the sick cuqdud driven clannist who want darod having no power and only 2 towns having power which is Mogadishu and Hargeisa. Yet ironically it's the sensible darods who are attacked as clannist and these irir samaalist thugs are seen as good for Somalis.

I would even entertain their silly Genghis Khan politics untill I saw their no winner or loser in Somalia, that's when i realised how evil hawiye and isaaq leaders are and turned on them from that day on.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I know Isaaqs were like WTF usc ur aideed and ali.mahdi are infighting in the capital. They then sat down and said let's keep our secession card close to our cards untill this hawiye unifies under aideed politics.

Then Aideed threw abdirahman tuur into the north which has caused @Garaad Awal ppl to turn on Habar Yonis which has simmered away for 30 years and is still unresolved.

Hawiye then fired back with Sal balaar govt with aideed and mahdi endorsed in Cairo to send a message to secessionist, hawiye will.remain supreme.

Then Abdillahi Yusuf came in this chaos a
nd said hey boys their no Genghis Khan emerging, let's save Somali ppl the pain and take a federal deal where each clan just focuses on his territory and clan and as for national matters its shared.

These motherfuckefs then said how dare you darods even join this discourse since it's a usc and snm discussion here not you darods who they really believe they defeated lol yet nowhere did darod ever unite to fight them infact ogaden SPM were helping them and SSDF was neutral and inactive, same with warsangeli.

U guys fought marehan and dhulbahante in a two directional war front also with ogaden help and majerten absolutely silent

Anyways when Abdillahi Yusuf Federalism was endorsed for this stalemate nation where there is no Genghis Khan emerging and every clan and region enjoying a level playing field, they said hell no usc and snm with hawiye breaking off into ICU and shabab terrorism which is what u guys report on daily and monthly like its some legit thing, ask them do u believe 2 towns shud rule 90 towns u will see their just irir samaalist in another shaati.

Terrorism, Secession are simply in between solutions or ku meel gaar to destabilise Federalism and make it appear as unworkable so irirism can appear a better solution which is 2 clans 2 towns dictating to 90 towns and 100 clans.

@Maakhri2024

Open your ears and u will understand Somalia at a more root cause level rather then at the shaati la soo gashtay superficial level.

Even Garaads leaders if u haven't noticed have spent 30 years demonising Mogadishu lol there is deeper reason for it. But deep down they do compromise on irir samaalism when centralism Sal balaar vs Secession is leading to problems between hawiye and isaaq but they have a pact to end Federalism tho.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I know Isaaqs were like WTF usc ur aideed and ali.mahdi are infighting in the capital. They then sat down and said let's keep our secession card close to our cards untill this hawiye unifies under aideed politics.

Then Aideed threw abdirahman tuur into the north which has caused @Garaad Awal ppl to turn on Habar Yonis which has simmered away for 30 years and is still unresolved.

Hawiye then fired back with Sal balaar govt in aideed and mahdi endorsed in Cairo to send a message to secessionist, hawiye will.remain supreme.

Then Abdillahi Yusuf came in this chaos a
nd said hey boys their no Genghis Khan emerging, let's save Somali ppl the pain and take a federal deal where each clan just focuses on his territory and clan and as for national matters its shared.

These motherfuckers then said how dare you darods even join this discourse since it's a usc and snm discussion here not you darods who they really believe they defeated lol yet nowhere did darod ever unite to fight them infact ogaden SPM were helping them and SSDF was neutral and inactive, same with warsangeli.

U guys fought marehan and dhulbahante in a two directional war front also with ogaden help and majerten absolutely silent

Anyways when Abdillahi Yusuf Federalism was endorsed for this stalemate nation where there is no Genghis Khan emerging and every clan and region enjoying a level playing field, they said hell no usc and snm with hawiye breaking off into ICU and shabab terrorism which is what u guys report on daily and monthly like its some legit thing, ask them do u believe 2 towns shud rule 90 towns u will see their just irir samaalist in another shaati.

Terrorism, Secession are simply in between solutions or ku meel gaar to destabilise Federalism and make it appear as unworkable so irirism can appear a better solution which is 2 clans 2 towns dictating to 90 towns and 100 clans.

@Maakhri2024

Open your ears and u will understand Somalia at a more root cause level rather then at the shaati la soo gashtay.