No the culture of taking a women out of the home and pushing her into the workforce in male dominated areas and leaving her to have little to no children and send them to education camps to brainwash the children all day and feminise men and masculine women is what is against the deen
Toxic Masculinity is on the rise
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A Somali crackhead?
Sellign drugs and taking them is 2 different things
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VIP
That has nothing to do with what that nigga mentioned and what I said?
Are you a mentally degenerate? Seems like you need to search up and see what you suffer from?
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VIP
You’re still a druggie/junkie/crackheid regardless
Again he mentioned
-Woman not wanting to have children
-Woman wanting to be boss b*tches
-Woman not wanting traditional gender roles
You don't know what a crackhead is then
are pharmacists now crackheads?
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- search up and see how ugly pregnancy and giving birth is
I am not about to lose my teeth, get bald, or die just to bring a human being into this world, they can get a surrogate
- He said INDEPENDENT WOMAN
your own mother was a independent woman, and you want her to slave around for your father huh?
- I want to earn money, get a job, live a stable life and have a house! If that means I wont live through a traditional gender then f*ck them
My happiness over anybody else’s on this worldLife is ugly and difficult, we only exist right now because of it, your problem is with life not giving birth to children, yes I know life is difficult but that is not an excuse to say I will not participate, as soon as you do that you take your privilege of not having children because everyone else is, problem is you are not contributing to the same society that u benefit from them doing the exact same thing, also if everyone follows you now we all die. We can't survive if everyone wants to do what they want, thats why we have laws
Yes you will because u only exist right now to say that because another woman did that
no he said boss
I want traditional gender roles, Man supports his wife and a wife takes care of the home
My mother was independent because she had no other choice, I would much prefer she re-marries and gets a husband who supports her like it should be
He didn't say get a job, he said be a boss b*tch- I want to earn money, get a job, live a stable life and have a house! If that means I wont live through a traditional gender then f*ck them
Guess what if everyone wants to be like u we get this western society, which is slowly destroying itself
How is being a boss, competing against men? I sometimes feel as though some men operate from a place of narcissism by thinking women are in some sort of competition. I want to have my own business. Why? For the exact reason any human would, to line my flipping pockets.
In relationships, men and women do. Even amongst working wives studies show that they do 80% of the household chores and child raising. Despite, all of these men's complaints women are still upkeeping their traditional side of the bargain.
I really do believe that mental health issues are increasing as people are a lot more lonely compared to previous generations. Humans are social creatures and technology will never be able to replace real family and friendships.
The problem with this narrative that some men come from an emotional angle of blaming women, rather than looking at the current capitalist reality of the West.
Look at the world around you in the developed countries. The cost of living is staggering, nurseries are expensive and many men can no longer provide for a family with just their income. How can you expect a woman to have 5+ kids when she has to work and can't even afford nursery for more than one child? The vast majority of families cannot afford for the mother to stay home, especially if they don't want to raise their child in horrid ghettos.
That is my issue with what that man has to say. Most of it is emotional waffle.
This strong independent woman rhetoric is what gets you being masculine, owning a business doesn't make you masculine, joining fields with men and competing with them and being a boss will inevitably end up making ur more masculine thats just a fact, how can you u deny a woman competing with men in a work space and being a leader not make her masculine?
There is a reason why every leader Islamically is a man, all imams are men, all qaadis are men, men are supposed to provide for their wives and not the opposite way around, men have to go to jihaad, men have to be leaders of their family,
Do you not see how this rhetoric of women being leaders and bosses is slowly leaking into the Muslim community where we now see women building woman only mosques under the rhetoric that men and women are equal.
A women owning a business or having a career does not make her masculine, it entiely depends on what field shew works in
Thats got nothing to do with my point of traditional gender roles.
If women are working and still doing all child raising and household chores wouldn't women prefer to have the men provide for them and not have to work long hours and do all of that stuff at the same time
wouldnt traditional gender roles make it easier for you?
He is not talking bout all people he is talking about a group of people
For example someone made fun of me today so now I am sad and have mental health issues I am gonna do nothing about it and just complain and cry .
If it is my business that I built, why would it make me masculine..? Also, what fields exactly? Cooking was once seen as a women's domain but all the top chefs are now men and restaurants are male dominated as well as well. Most female beauty brands are owned by men as well.
The unfortunate reality is that a woman having a successful business will make some men see her as 'masculine' regardless of the field. For some men, the idea of women making a significant amounts of men is in direct competition with them.
We're talking about businesses. If I build a business I am the leader by default and that is Islamically acceptable and it is mine and mine alone.
A boss is someone that owns a company. That is Islamically acceptable.
I never said it's women's fault.
The government like feminism anyone as it benefits rich people, you have more workers and more institutes to raise children and make money from them
But if we continue to push this feminist narrative that women should work and be bosses and not have children you will destroy yourself
We should be advocating for less women working and making it easier to live on a single parent income, and also making motherhood easier for women and giving them money and services and etc to help raises children anad support them financially
Saying traditional gender roles are bad is not going to fix this issue instead we will only propagate the issue b4 we can't reverse it
Woman started working alot more and they didnt even need to now the government took advantage of it and basically made it necessary for women to work since they decided themselves they wanted to work due to feminism
Successful business does not require you to act masculine
