Turkey Coup

[click-boom]

Wtf are you talking about?? USA, Germany and Qatar backed Erdogan also

the US did it four hours after coup started, the other two countries did it one hour after the coup started.

 

[Lord Flacko]

the US did it four hours after coup started, the other two countries did it one hour after the coup started.

They all still did while the coup was ongoing.

 

[VixR]

None of us have supported the coup, Islamists on here just like to claim that even though we have said its wrong.

Yeah. I don't think very many people have said that, with the exception of maybe one person. It really is a generally bad idea. In fact, there's a high correlation between coups and even more repressive, totalitarian brands of rulership taking over in order to keep a lid on the population, and rule with an iron fist. Whatever the outcome of this debacle, Turkey will descend into further repression, and things will get worse before they get better.

What strikes me, is how this pro-Erdogan crowd can't seem to stomach criticism.

 

[HitchSlappinDaily]

its much better than when it was occupied by the free secular countries.

Did you just not go to history class at all? Italy was deeply Catholic and England was deeply Anglican during colonialism. Somalis have consistently turned on or failed any type of help that was given to them to rebuild their country. I am not against Erdogan helping Somalia my question is what does he WANT for this support he is giving according to you all. Nothing is free but like children you run to the first shiny object without thinking.

 

[Lord Flacko]

Yeah. I don't think very many people have said that, with the exception of maybe one person. It really is a generally bad idea. In fact, there's a high correlation between coups and even more repressive, totalitarian brands of rulership taking over in order to keep a lid on the population, and rule with an iron fist. Whatever the outcome of this debacle, Turkey will descend into further repression, and things will get worse before they get better.

What strikes me, is how this pro-Erdogan crowd can't seem to stomach criticism.

You do know Turkey has had several Coups like this? Last one in 1980-something I think. The Military has a legal right to do a Coup d'Etat to keep Secularism intact when the current government is being to Islamic

 

[John Michael]

Did you just not go to history class at all? Italy was deeply Catholic and England was deeply Anglican during colonialism. Somalis have consistently turned on or failed any type of help that was given to them to rebuild their country. I am not against Erdogan helping Somalia my question is what does he WANT for this support he is giving according to you all. Nothing is free but like children you run to the first shiny object without thinking.

What help...

Please expand on this.

 

[HitchSlappinDaily]

You do know Turkey has had several Coups like this? Last one in 1980-something I think. The Military has a legal right to do a Coup d'Etat to keep Secularism intact when the current government is being to Islamic

I didnt know there was an actual law for the military to act if the government was getting to Islamic. Interesting, assuming it was bc of Ataturk.

 

[Lord Flacko]

Did you just not go to history class at all? Italy was deeply Catholic and England was deeply Anglican during colonialism. Somalis have consistently turned on or failed any type of help that was given to them to rebuild their country. I am not against Erdogan helping Somalia my question is what does he WANT for this support he is giving according to you all. Nothing is free but like children you run to the first shiny object without thinking.

You're right, but we are not in a position to support a Coup of Turkey while its ongoing. If Erdogan stays we are with him. If the Military wins and they keep their promise, we are with them.

 

[Lord Flacko]

I didnt know there was an actual law for the military to act if the government was getting to Islamic. Interesting, assuming it was bc of Ataturk.

Yeah Ataturk gave the Military the power to do so. It has been a core part of their history

 

[VixR]

You do know Turkey has had several Coups like this? Last one in 1980-something I think. The Military has a legal right to do a Coup d'Etat to keep Secularism intact when the current government is being to Islamic

I recognize that, but the situation is pretty volatile. One can only hope the military gets the outcome they've been getting thus far.

Just look at this comment I found on an AlJazeera article:

 

[HitchSlappinDaily]

What help...

Please expand on this.

Ask all the Erdogan is our great and wonderful savior brigade you have been commenting with. Personally from family members back home all I have heard is that we have gotten a few doctors and medics.

 

[John Michael]

Ask all the Erdogan is our great and wonderful savior brigade you have been commenting with. Personally from family members back home all I have heard is that we have gotten a few doctors and medics.

I was referring to the comment you made about Somalis 'turning on any help given'

 

[Lord Flacko]

Ask all the Erdogan is our great and wonderful savior brigade you have been commenting with. Personally from family members back home all I have heard is that we have gotten a few doctors and medics.

https://www.google.no/search?q=Erdo...ndroid-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Erdogan is the most important ally to Somalia

 

[HitchSlappinDaily]

I was referring to the comment you made about Somalis 'turning on any help given'

Look at the outcome of every conference and interim government for the past 30 years that was set up so that Somalis could finally find common ground and build a government.

 

[John Michael]

Look at the outcome of every conference and interim government for the past 30 years that was set up so that Somalis could finally find common ground and build a government.

Ok I see now...

You're pretty much a lost cause, I should have caught on with the 'shabab grew stronger when turkey arrived'

Goodness.

 

[HitchSlappinDaily]

https://www.google.no/search?q=Erdo...ndroid-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Erdogan is the most important ally to Somalia

Again, why do we get this generosity? If he is genuinely doing it out of concern thats great but world leaders have a long game to play. What have we given up or rather what have our leaders given up or what have we promised? Is the better question we probably wont know until its too late.

 

[HitchSlappinDaily]

Ok I see now...

You're pretty much a lost cause, I should have caught on with the 'shabab grew stronger when turkey arrived'

Goodness.

They actually were on their last legs but have made a come back. There was an old general that was killed that had them on their heels and he was fired before he could finish them off. Few months after Turkey our great savior showed up. Few months later he was killed in a hotel attack designed to get him specifically bc he was the most effective of our armed men against them. Old guard pre Siyad loyalist. He will be remembered.

 

[Bahal]

Obviously there are conditions but frankly we're not in a position to pick or choose allies.

We take what we get, or we get Ethiopian """""""support"""""""""

 

[John Michael]

They actually were on their last legs but have made a come back. There was an old general that was killed that had them on their heels and he was fired before he could finish them off. Few months after Turkey our great savior showed up. Few months later he was killed in a hotel attack designed to get him specifically bc he was the most effective of our armed men against them. Old guard pre Siyad loyalist. He will be remembered.

Yes they were on their last legs when they controlled the majority of central Somalia and all of south Somalia. Yes!

Clearly.

Anyways I don't think i can have a normal conversation with you as you're being willfully ignorant.

K bye!

Obviously there are conditions but frankly we're not in a position to pick or choose allies.

We take what we get, or we get Ethiopian """""""support"""""""""

Turkey bad, but let's forget the 2011 famine when absolutely no one else gave a toss.not to mention the embarrassing number of them who get shot seem long every month but still press on to help...

Britain et al : Good but lets just forget about somaoil and their constant micromanaging of every aspect of Somali politics


I can't.

 

[HitchSlappinDaily]

Obviously there are conditions but frankly we're not in a position to pick or choose allies.

We take what we get, or we get Ethiopian """""""support"""""""""

you always have a choice but by all means continue. Lets see where this goes. Just remember you were rolling with the Turks. No take backs when shit hits the fan