Tuurdibi dry port the new economic hub of central somalia

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Tuurdibi which is 6-7 km from galdogob will become the customs checkpoint for garacad it will connect DDS and puntland financially cagjar has visited garacad and stated that a road will be built that will connect tuurdibi to the wider DDS in addition to the 3G road from garacad to galdogob future looks bright

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Chaseyourdreamzz don't trust 'ogadens' they have a well established isim, business, an academic class that has grown thru stability of ethio-kenya while our's was rotting in Somalia. We survive on our old elites thru 'siyad' investment and the one's who went to the 'diaspora' due to 91. The OG'S will play all the 'ports' against each other, it doesn't want one region strangleholding their 'trade', in-fact most in-land states will follow that theme also. Infact it might 'diversify' it's trade links to many regions so it can 'exert' economic pressure to align with it's policies. They also got strangle-hold on ethio-kenya policy towards Somalia since ethio-kenya will need to satisfy them as a priority before other somalis due to their own 'survival'.

I try not to pick on ogadens but foster a strong alliance between PL/JL for our survival interest in somalia and use the partnership established thru that to DDS as proof of our sincerity and therefore be in good position with kenya/ethiopia. We don't adopt the marehan approach hell no. We also hold our relations with Dubai n Oman so it can continue being 'long', the key-word is 'long' not 'flip flop' as they will be dismissed as to risky

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Chaseyourdreamzz It's not in 'ogaden' interest to be tied to one port when it can place it's trade in multiple ports and use that to exert 'pressure' on it's trade partners for their interests. Their gonna play a 'long' game of strategy to ensure Ogadens interests are not 'sidelined'. Infact I predict they will take the 'portfolio' of ethiopia/kenya regarding 'somalia' in the future and tell those country leaders they don't have a 'sound' understanding of the 'wider' issues and only understand at 'face value' depending on 'narrative'.

They don't have 'wicked' intelligence agencies those african countries to balance out the 'intel' they get and grade the 'source' it's from and the potential biases and conflict of interest to the source, it requires a balancing act to ensure it's accurate. Infact any intel where it's 'one sided' and demonizing another 'side' is immediately suspicious as no-one can be 'perfect' is a world wide accepted 'conditions', if u dont hear anything negative regarding their role, u will need to take it on board as 'one sided' story and dig further for the other side narrative.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Chaseyourdreamzz intel agencies r not like 'media' taking 1 side of a 'conflict' as their is always two sides or multiple sides depending where it's at 'the stage of conflict' as it can 'switch' dimensions the longer it continues, as we see in the global world order and even in Somalia or any country with internal strife or 'external' strife between two countries. They need to ask the other side about the narrative they have, if the other side doesn't agree, then u need look n research for 'root cause' of each conflict n where it 'sources' back too or where each 'phase' roots back too not when it's 'flamed' out across a nation.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Chaseyourdreamzz PL are in China good books unlike somaliland working with 'taiwan' china may boycot it's products from their port in the future and use Garacad as apart of the belt n road and garacad can serve multiple african nation trade link who are already in bed with china. I would warn China not to place your 'trade-post' in Djibouti due to amount of 'western' military installations who can influence 'djibouti' president to be anti chinaa at a 'whim'.

PL should see china as long term economic partner and 'award' our infrastructure projects to them(establish trust not flip flop) not 'turkey' who doesn't do anything in PL(its not reciprocal trade) and never will since 'erdogan' is muslim brotherhood. We should also sell the fact we are historically 'traders' and know the 'art' of it and we can also be a 'positive' diplomatic source for china to get 'african countries' to get it's act together since PL trade will grow if africa grows and thus china 'grows'

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

@DR OSMAN Northern galbeed will still be connected to berbera gobols rich in livestock such as doolo qoraxey shabelle hiiraan afdheer etc will use garacad port due to its centrally located position it will be the main port for parts of Ethiopia

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@DR OSMAN Northern galbeed will still be connected to berbera gobols rich in livestock such as doolo qoraxey shabelle hiiraan afdheer etc will use garacad port due to its centrally located position it will be the main port for parts of Ethiopia

Any Daarood that is still using Berbera is a traitor bilaa dhiig ah.
You'd have to be special type of idiot to give any money to a terrorist enclave like Somaliland.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Any Daarood that is still using Berbera is a traitor bilaa dhiig ah.
You'd have to be special type of idiot to give any money to a terrorist enclave like Somaliland.

It will take time to diversify. We are currently dependent on it. Before, it was mostly Djibouti port being used. But since Ethiopia purchased a 19% share in Berbera, they have redirected major traffic there with investments on the Berbera-Wajaale-Jigjiga road, it's has made it more accessible and closer.

Now, we need an updated road from Garacad-Galdogob-Kebri Dahar, so southern DDS don't depend on Berbera and Djibouti. Even the Xamar port, but the stability of the southern Somalia, has made it harder for the past decades and it seems to be improving now. With better infrastructure, the Kismayo port will become handy as well in the future.

In the end, business people don't really care and lacks common sense. They only do what fills up their pockets. That's where it needs to start.

 

[Mr. Wabrii]

It will take time to diversify. We are currently dependent on it. Before, it was mostly Djibouti port being used. But since Ethiopia purchased a 19% share in Berbera, they have redirected major traffic there with investments on the Berbera-Wajaale-Jigjiga road, it's has made it more accessible and closer.

Now, we need an updated road from Garacad-Galdogob-Kebri Dahar, so southern DDS don't depend on Berbera and Djibouti. Even the Xamar port, but the stability of the southern Somalia, has made it harder for the past decades and it seems to be improving now. With better infrastructure, the Kismayo port will become handy as well in the future.

In the end, business people don't really care and lacks common sense. They only do what fills up their pockets. That's where it needs to start.

Exactly, Alot of these small minded idiots think their " CLans" means something to Business Men, Its Business its not Personal, If my Stuff is coming from DUBIA i want the cheapest and easiest route, i dont give a damn about no Clan politics.

They think their Clan disease means something " oh if you use this port your a idiot" GTFO

 

[DR OSMAN]

Any Daarood that is still using Berbera is a traitor bilaa dhiig ah.
You'd have to be special type of idiot to give any money to a terrorist enclave like Somaliland.

We shouldn't just abuse them sister but help them with solutions, si xun bay uu 'asaasmeen', they created their admin thru bloodshed n violence on themselves(intra Isaq n others samaroon n dhulos), anything created thru violence logic dictates it will crumble to violence internally, they should've learned from siyad barre who didn't spill blood but forcefully put himself in power.

They should've learned even if they do 'survive' internal collapse, they will not be productive member of region or world as eritrea proved due their shocking foundation, north korea, iran, afghanistan, all these places came to power thru 'force' and they survive now on spreading 'violence' regionally or globally depending on their 'capacity' so it can make the world like themselves and not have internal collapse from a violent uprising ileen iyagu ayaaba dadka tusiyay 'violence to power route'.

Their very emotional bunch who will ignore 'reason n intelligence' even if u tell them, not to go one way, they will go the other way no matter the 'dangers' u present n other reference points for them to observe.

 

[DR OSMAN]

PL should create a 'diverse' market not just be a 'trade post' model, each new sector needs to start-grow-mature phase, it's absolutely paramount to have seasoned economist who are study global sectors, emerging sectors, and mature sectors, their investment model, their supply chain, their value 'pie' internally, what govt is doing to create those conditions.

PL wants to play 'blind man' strategy of just following other regions. We must at least sit down with investors and tell them this is the 'growth sector' locally or globally, this is the investors involved and supply chains, this is what we demand in the 'value pie' and explain our reasoning is to support our 'consumer growth' model which not only benefits the govt thru tax revenues increases but benefits investor class to tap into new sectors for the growing consumer or invest further into existing sectors that have strong consumer pool emerging.

We should never adopt the hag method of 'daar' baan dhisaya, 'daar' don't make money, humans 'make money'.

They say PL gonna invest in fishery, provide the data of global/regional/local value of fishery, its historical/future growth to investors, what market will be targetted, what govt ties need to be established in that country as they won't allow a 'flood' of goods disturbing it's value pie or impact it's investor class or locals. They balance the interests of their investor class 'growth' and locals wealth, they don't 'skew' to one side

 

[DR OSMAN]

Rwanda is smart to 'tap' into automobiles, the predicted growth is very high globally, their not putting their time n effort into 'ilo tango or pathetic consumables' looooooooool, that's why puntites need academics-investors-govt plus 'labor pool representatives' to represent each actors interests and cut a 'deal' that will ensure all actors are growing towards the govt policy of creating a strong investment n consumption market.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The legal environment is another huge obstacle to investors, I or anyone will not risk 'large' out-lays of capital in a region that doesn't have rule of law established in government and the market place, if the govt is rotten, the industries are not trustworthy also and could do a HG on it. We need this as the most important pillar.

 

[DR OSMAN]

We must discuss a legal architecture in PL from the codifying the laws, the legal organs needed to monitor/enforce/review it's performance on government and the market place. Hey they will scam u over little 'money' in somalia and u have no-way to settle it, this type of business environment won't foster any investor to come to such chaos.

 

[DR OSMAN]

War 'dad iyaga is dhacayo' oo nidaam oolin dhexdooda qof waalan oo lacagtisa gelinayo meel khatartasi muqato ma jirto, dont blame diaspora or foreigners BLAME YOURSELVES somaliyay. Start with HG handing back properties, that will be huge sign of 'market recovery n credibility' and then create the legal architecture and necessary organs to ensure a trustworthy market exists, before this happens, do not set up investment forums

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Abdalla I know u fed up with investment forum but consider this, we dont have academics/govt/investors/worker representatives sitting down about cutting a deal that benefits all. We don't even have govt direction n policies, i mean 'long term' no matter who is president

We don't even have economists who 'tally up' our market sectors and how many businesses are in each, their sector value combined, their growth/declinee over long periods of time, market inflation rate over a long period of time, our consumer base and growth.

We need to discuss emerging-growing-fully mature sectors depending on the number of businesses in each, we need to discuss new 'sector' opportunities and bring all relevant stakeholders to discuss the 'market to be served', 'value pie', supply chain involved. GDP is simply that, it's all your sectors value n how much it grows/decline, if it all declines it's a recession, if only a few decline and so forth.

As u know the legal environment is a big issue, if we can't guarantee our current market is secure and based on laws and enforcement bodies, why would anyone add their capital there? heck we can't even secure laws on diaspora being scammed on building homes, and u want us to tell large investors come n join this 'risky' environment.

 

[DR OSMAN]

All their business model is to run to overseas markets, buy goods, export to PL, and transport to market, that is it, then they think by expanding that model to other countries is the solution, it's a very dead 'value pie' and 'supply chain'. The solution is seasoned economist that looks at 'emerging, growing, mature' sectors and their historical growth/declines be it locally/regionally/globally, figuring where in the 'value pie' and 'supply chain' can be maximized by our investors following our govt direction to create jobs and well payin jobs so it can lead to spending to create other investors to invest further.

Then we need seasoned financial services companies 'scanning' the market for the best performers in each sector, setting up awards for them, feed them business management data n best practises to failing businesses in the sector, study failing businesses and warn other businesses and investors of 'lessons learned'.

@Abdalla I cringe in disgust how we have leaders who are not doing these things and repeat the same environment they inherited from previous president.