US delegation looks into establishing a security and defense partnership with Somaliland.

There is no isis in Puntland. You’re right about the south. But to the rest of the world you are no different than PL hence why no one takes you seriously and your being conned by powerless former civil servants like Tibor Nagy.

Yes there is ISIS in puntland and it's the only place they do exist in the entire horn. This is a fact even the puntland state government is dealing with this problem on daily basis. ISIS is thousand times worse than alshabaab.
 
You are claiming independence for tribal reasons. Don’t delude yourself. If you want to leave Somalia for tribal reasons, why do you expect those from other tribes who are against separatism to join you? The best case scenario for Somaliland is an autonomous region in a federal Somalia.
Dude the ones you're talking about are the ones who created and founded Somaliland that exists today if they wear actually against separatism they shouldn't have taken part in Borama conference in 1993 as that would have put an end to may 18 1991 Burco conference where the regaining of Somaliland independence was proclaimed those Harti Waqooyi reaffirmed that declaration by attending Boorama conference.
 
This was the right move for Somaliland to make. They cannot understand that this was all due to the 5D chess somaliland has been playing by making ties with Taiwan and countries across Africa

The world looks at East Africa and Sees

Ethiopia: Disintegrating into ethnic wars
Djbouti: China owned dictatorship
Eritrea: Black Listed dictatorship
Kenya: China controlled Economy
Somalia: AMISOM, Alshabab, ISIL Colony with a new clan state every day
Somaliland: Democratic & Stable

Somaliland has never been as relevant as it has been in the past 5 years. :salute:
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Conveniently left out the last point:

d) Rule of Construction.--Nothing in this section,
including the conduct of the feasibility study under
subsection (b) and the submission of the classified report
under subsection (c), may be construed to convey United
States recognition of Somaliland as an independent state.


Even if this policy was carried out, I really don't think US sees this as an agenda to recognise SL. They have seperate military relationships with Kurdistan & Iraq and don't recognise them even after they had their own referendum and are constantly clamouring for recognition.


SL love affair is actually an underrated move. Even though it puts them father from recognition (due to Russia/China in UN security council and China's ownership of the African Union) it got all the China hawks in US Congress a stiffy.
 

:mjlol:

Somaliland paying $22,000 per month jut for this one lobby.


@Wir Senator Michael McCaul visiting Somaliland is complete fake news. Somaliland bloghesphere/twitter is ripe with fake news today. Even claiming Senator Lindsay Graham is present 🤦‍♂️

 
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Periplus

Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
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Real question @Gantaal97 @0117

What is so monumental about this?

To me it seems like the US wants to look into the possibility of having a military relationship with SL as it already does with Somalia.
 
Real question @Gantaal97 @0117

What is so monumental about this?

To me it seems like the US wants to look into the possibility of having a military relationship with SL as it already does with Somalia.

It is very significant if they follow through. It is not just having a military base their, the feasibility study mentions military training for Somaliland military and "increasing their capacity". Somalia/Puntland did not have a significant qualitative military edge over SL for almost 30 years......the balance has started to shift last 2 years and gap in military capability is accelerating exponentially from here on now. Once the arms embargo is lifted, SL military are sitting sucks in eastern part of somaliland. It's mentioned directly in the feasibility document:

(B) further stabilize this semi-autonomous region of
Somalia as a democratic counterweight to destabilizing and
anti-democratic forces in Somalia and the wider East Africa
region; and


the key significance is balance of power. SL can quack right now because the balance of power has not shifted dramatically. As somalia/puntland increase their military capabilities, if SL can keep up, they can keep quacking.
 

Periplus

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It is very significant if they follow through. It is not just having a military base their, the feasibility study mentions military training for Somaliland military and "increasing their capacity". Somalia/Puntland did not have a significant qualitative military edge over SL for almost 30 years......the balance has started to shift last 2 years and gap in military capability is accelerating exponentially from here on now. Once the arms embargo is lifted, SL military are sitting sucks in eastern part of somaliland. It's mentioned directly in the feasibility document:

(B) further stabilize this semi-autonomous region of
Somalia as a democratic counterweight to destabilizing and
anti-democratic forces in Somalia and the wider East Africa
region; and

If it passes, which I doubt, it seems like as if the US want to turn SL into a Kurdistan.

Furthermore, it indicates that the US is willing to let Farmaajo stay in power in Xamar. Because they stated that SL will be a counterweight to anti-democratic forces in Xamar.

That means the US believes Somalia will not be democratic in the long term.
 
If it passes, which I doubt, it seems like as if the US want to turn SL into a Kurdistan.

Furthermore, it indicates that the US is willing to let Farmaajo stay in power in Xamar. Because they stated that SL will be a counterweight to anti-democratic forces in Xamar.

That means the US believes Somalia will not be democratic in the long term.

I would not assign what one individual person or a few paid lobbyists wrote in this document as the official view of the United States government.
 
Americans are unreliable partners the most hypocrites anything and everything they touch and involve is dangerous and disastrous. There main concern is their interest to curb China and other countries involvement. I'm yet to see any third world countries benefits from their involvement. The locals and regions will be used, abused and ditched. Always we need to be skeptical with Americans involvement they're up to no good.
 
Is SL set to become either like Iraqi Kurdistan (fully autonomous but not an independent country) or like Kosovo (a self-declared independent country that's recognised by half of the world's countries but isn't a UN member)
 
Real question @Gantaal97 @0117

What is so monumental about this?

To me it seems like the US wants to look into the possibility of having a military relationship with SL as it already does with Somalia.
This is a huge step for SL for the US to come and establish a military relationship as the will recognize the geostrategical significance of Somaliland in the region in Gulf of Aden upto the Red Sea as we know things aren't good between China and the US and the Americans in this current decade are trying to counter react the Chinese influence in Africa and other places around the world and this is good opportunity for Somaliland to show itself in world stage and get the recognition it deserves.
 
Even if SL isn't recognised as independent, should the US treat SL like Iraqi Kurdistan then de facto reunification between SL and Somalia will be impossible
 

0117

Reborn
Real question @Gantaal97 @0117

What is so monumental about this?

To me it seems like the US wants to look into the possibility of having a military relationship with SL as it already does with Somalia.

Dual track diplomacy is coming back :banderas:
There hasn't been this level of US delegation since the formation of FGS in which Hillary Clinton trashed the dual-track policy the US had with SL:obama:

Tide is shifting my friend since you joined this forum :lawd:
 
Even if SL isn't recognised as independent, should the US treat SL like Iraqi Kurdistan then de facto reunification between SL and Somalia will be impossible
Kurdistan already claims independence, they had a referendum in 2017, but State Department rejected it despite top senators (including majority Leader Chuck Schumer advocating for it's recognition). But the difference in that situation was Iraq immediately invaded Kurdistan, took over 1/3 of their territory and enforced a No Fly Zone over Kurdistan with their f16 jets -- FGS has no such capability.

What would be a disaster for FGS is if James Swan joins the Somaliland lobby after his term ends :mjlol:

I have a strong feeling that might happen lol
 

repo

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He is mad because SL garners more international support than his clan enclave
US Senator arrives in Puntland in 2011.

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A year later, 50 cent touches down Gedo and tells them Get Rich or Die Tryin'.

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