Visual representation of why Hargeisa, West Burco & Sanaag communiity are political failures

Tirakoob ay dowladdii kacaanka ku soo bandhigtay tirada degmada Gabiley miyaad nala wadaagi karta ?
Let’s start
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As you can see north west is by far the most populated. Now let’s look at the population distribution.
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As you can see gebilay region has the highest population.
 

amboli

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@Samaalism the data is out there.

According to the government data, regions are benefiting from the SDF as following: Hargeisa 46%, Gabiley 9% (one of the districts of Hargeisa), Saahil 14%, Togdheer 16%, Sanaag 5%, Sool 5%, Awdal 5%. Gabiley is part of Hargeisa region while Saahil was part of Hargeisa region at the time Somaliland declared its independence.

This allotment reinforces already expanding disparity. The resources are invested in very few regions. Now, SDF has taken the same route by giving almost all of its projects to only two regions. Hargeisa (including Gabiley district) and Saahil together enjoy 69 percent. Sanaag, Sool and Awdal collectively receive 15%.

Why? Are Hargeisa and Saahil having more population than Sanaag, Sool and Awdal? The answer is no. According to latest UNFPA population estimate, Hargeisa and Saahil have a population of 1, 242, 003. The population of Sool, Sanaag and Awdal are 1, 544, 814. Therefore, in population wise, the later regions have more population. Is it because of assessed need? The response is no. It is a matter of irrefutable fact that east regions have received the least support in last two decades. In territory wise, Sanaag alone is 38% of Somaliland’s territory. Let alone adding Awdal and Sool.

https://www.gobanimonews.com/unjust...fund-sdf-threatens-stability-and-coexistence/


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Tirakoob ay dowladdii kacaanka ku soo bandhigtay tirada degmada Gabiley miyaad nala wadaagi karta ?
Let’s start View attachment 90980
As you can see north west is by far the most populated. Now let’s look at the population distribution.
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As you can see gebilay region has the highest population.

Those figures are not reliable as Majerten was 50% of Banadir population, we owned all the 'south mogadishu' areas which HG looted and Somalis know this. So add half of Mogadishu population to PL population if you want to be fair. Hargeisa was the second capital, you guys never relocated in large numbers to Hamar.

If we put all Majertens into Puntland and you put all Northern clans together, compare it then. PL population is SPREAD OUT, u can't swindle shit, sacad muse is tiny niyahow, u r the size of 'reer hersi' the elites of omar mahmud and hy is the size of 'reer mahad' who are like their muscle and population.
 

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Now can you tell me where the 100k sacadmuse from the British census went?
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Stop lying when did the british do a census, somaliland was protectorate, there was no british administration there, you did the census for them to swindle population, the british didn't have a colony there because it was just needed for maritime not to develop SL and they paid off HABAR AWAL AND GAVE THEM GUNS, MONEY, AND KNOWLEDGE so u can capture the interior and tell them fake figures cuz they were illerate at the time. Habar yonis meeshu xaqqu ku lee yahay anigu waan taageeraya, he was a reer badiye and you were the admin at the coast of berbera and swindled. Yes you are their elites but your not the MUSCLE and don't argue for shit that you ain't xitaa Somaliwayn kuma aqbalayso taas. so why argue against irraitonality.

I am an interior osman mahmoud clan and the coastal clans tried that shit on us. All interior clans are not illerate anymore u guys are playing games that cant work today. Its ironic how coastal clans in PL/SL controlled their interior by fooling us that were 'dumb' no we are not, we are good halal people interior clans, they are my favorite somalis wallahi, they just need knowledge injection and they can destroy the earlier civilized coastal areas cause we still understand 'somali culture'
 
@Samaalism Hadalkeyga si fiican u fiirso. Waxaan ku weydiyay inaad tirakoob ay dowladdii kacaanka ku soo bandhigtay tirada degmada Gabiley nala wadaagi kartid, hase yeeshee waxaad un la timi tirada gobolka la odhan jiray Waqooyi Galbeed ee weliba gobolka Awdal ka mid ahaa.
 
@Samaalism Hadalkeyga si fiican u fiirso. Waxaan ku weydiyay inaad tirakoob ay dowladdii kacaanka ku soo bandhigtay tirada degmada Gabiley nala wadaagi kartid, hase yeeshee waxaad un la timi tirada gobolka la odhan jiray Waqooyi Galbeed ee weliba gobolka Awdal ka mid ahaa.
Are you blind or something I just posted the population density map based on the census from dowlada kacanka. I also posted supporting evidence of SL voter count from sanaag and from Gebiley. I also posted settlements in Gebiley and challenged you to show me settlements in sanaag oo uu digma. I also posted the British census. Waxaga waa xaqiraad. That is waxad ku meereysateen.
 
Khiyali bay ku noolyaheen. The level of cuqdad that would drive you to insult your own people who were massacred and kiss the ass of kacaanists because you think it will effect HA is the level of cuqdad that is coming from these folks. Waxkasta waa ka filaniya inay ku dacaan

Only 1 guy here do this. Better to ignore it:axvmm9o:
 

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@Samaalism u won't get anywhere with that. As the economy is linked to Camels still showing without nomads, there is no population as large. If your city population mattered why do u rely on camel taxes? why not their taxes? they are minority niyahow in comparison to camel herders. My bah dubays in nomad are at least 2000. U know if we sold our camels how many houses wud be added to Garowe? niyahow at least if you want population do it properly before the world is told the truth and then ur shown to be clannist inflating figures not taking into camel herders are 80% of Somalia numbers cause they are largest GDP in the nation. If they settled they would have 5 billion dollars worth of homes? is there 5 billion dollars worth of homes in 'gabiley and hargeisa
 

amboli

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Khiyali bay ku noolyaheen. The level of cuqdad that would drive you to insult your own people who were massacred and kiss the ass of kacaanists because you think it will effect HA is the level of cuqdad that is coming from these folks. Waxkasta waa ka filaniya inay ku dacaan

The problem isn't about aid distribution but mismanagement of local government and centralized tax custom points. Most of the revenue is tax levied on goods coming from Ethiopia (Wajaale) Djibouti (Zaylac) and import/export of Berbera. We need more custom points and port facilities to develop the eastern regions.


 
Are you blind or something I just posted the population density map based on the census from dowlada kacanka. I also posted supporting evidence of SL voter count from sanaag and from Gebiley. I also posted settlements in Gebiley and challenged you to show me settlements in sanaag oo uu digma. I also posted the British census. Waxaga waa xaqiraad. That is waxad ku meereysateen.

Your Somali is not strong enough for this debate since you escape my question. The density map is NOT from 1975 and not based on the census from 1975, read what it says. There is as far as I know not a census that shows districts. Obessed boy you have so much Cuqdad you cannot even have a normal debate.

let's wait for another 5000 essays about GX and your funny apologise threads after.
 

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Your Somali is not strong enough for this debate since you escape my question. The density map is NOT from 1975 and not based on the census from 1975, read what it says. There is as far as I know not a census that shows districts. Obessed boy you have so much Cuqdad you cannot even have a normal debate.

let's wait for another 5000 essays about GX and your funny apologise threads after.

War niyahow meeshu xaqqa ku lee yahay ka aqbal they are your smart people(how they did that was similar to all coastal northern areas ensuring they traded knowledge, goods, arms to the interior and 'taxing' them kkkkk and being the 'colonial' right hand man about 'lying about the interior' in terms of numbers, intelligence, reliability. They sold us out sxb as 'vikings and barbarics' who the colonial shouldn't deal with while selling themselves as 'strong civilized' clans. All coastal northerners did this to interior clans-men regardless of tribe. That's why they rose up to prominence in Somalia the coastal areas
 
The problem isn't about aid distribution but mismanagement of local government and centralized tax custom points. Most of the revenue is tax levied on goods coming from Ethiopia (Wajaale) Djibouti (Zaylac) and import/export of Berbera. We need more custom points and port facilities to develop the eastern regions.

The taxes that are taken by the local gov and by the central gov are different. The money that is generated from customs is taken by the central gov. Berbera has an annual budget of 7 million but generates well over 150m. Burco is where all SL livestock is taxed. Laas canood has a one of the best customs. baligobadle is going to be a major custom with the awaare corridor being built. Shekada customka waa rag contrbaan doonaya inay ka kulumastaan. If cirro is president he will never allow the entire SL ethiopia border to be one big custom because dowladisu dacifin and customs have to be agreed with the neighbouring country aswell or they’ll take it as controbaan and what Abdi iley done in Jamac dubad will happen. Waxa xisbiga kulmiye lagu ceebanayo to take voter share from them and waxa dhabta ah waa in la kala garto
 
Only 1 guy here do this. Better to ignore it:axvmm9o:
It’s not one guy it’s liban samatalis its abdirazaq Terra it’s Hassan ainashe is coldoon it’s cirro it’s the DP in xamar it’s all of you who don’t say nothing when Bohol is spewing xaar but naqaska kugu dega when I say something. Waxan waa lawada qaba.
 
It’s not one guy it’s liban samatalis its abdirazaq Terra it’s Hassan ainashe is coldoon it’s cirro it’s the DP in xamar it’s all of you who don’t say nothing when Bohol is spewing xaar but naqaska kugu dega when I say something. Waxan waa lawada qaba.

Coldoon abdirazak and DP in hamar are agents against Somaliland. Cirro is mu'arid xizbi. Habar je'lo caught all da hate from 2010-2017, every1 gets their turn on the carousel :damedamn:
 

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@Samaalism I hope PL and Sacad Muse cut a deal. The options are clear

1. Keep having SSC flip flopping for 20 years and we waste time. Yes they will come back to PL when they lose a position and they will do the same to you. No-one is winning, u won't win niyahow SSC and being unrealistic and the world can see your joining an unrealistic situation that there is permanent winner in SSC, when no-one will win cause they will flip flop.

2. We cut deals on SSC so they don't move back n forth and de-legitimatize our regional status as real government, if we are seen in the world not being able to resolve this matter, they will assume your not really mature states at all and still 'tribes' which is what the state less people intend to get out of this while also being PAID FOR it by our administration. We are paying regions who are tarnishing our status to the world.

If your politicians u will not entertain an area that has provided losses to you TAXES, u pay SSC salaries in govt, parliament, soldiers, they take aid from you and make your soldiers die and then leave you when they lose a position and 'eat' nicely from PL. The idea behind this is two fold. To make PL/SL look like 'tribes' and not real governments to the world, they want to delegate us back down to their level and tell Somali govt 'kuwani waa majerteniya iyo isaaq' mana noqon karan dawlad and we fed into it.

Or we act mature and treat these areas as 'treaties' where we remove both of them from our constitution, this will hurt them. Forget their camel taxes, we can secure far larger funding if we resolve the issue. We want billions of dollars in PL, adiguna weli waxad ka daba cararaysa canshuur yar dalka taal, that's why PL sees you as immature, nigga majerten is filthy rich and not focused on this suuq madow, we want to be near big economies. We want our locals inay 'calool macan oo GDP fican leh duuqan' so we can invest into our locals to enjoy another big calool so we can march to hamar and 'add' all those hawiyes into our calool. Sxb GDP waa calool weeye and u cant sit there and stop fighting over something cause that calool ayaa laga soo saaraya GDP wasted
 

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f*ck this I am cutting a deal with ogaden, that's why MJ must never want to operate with Isaaq these niggas think tribal when it's all about interests and moving on. I ain't wasting time as it means my calool gets less and I become weaker. DDSI is in PL, we will cut a deal with whoever, if DDSI cuts that trade to berbera and goes to Garacad, I know hargeisa is dead. U want to conflict with majerten, u dont know majerten policy is to grow grow grow not conflict and the worlds know that. U r not ready for the world niyahow stay under somalia, or else aduunka dhan ayaa sidasi kula dhaqmaysa and they classify as you as risk while u try selling positive vibes but all the world cares about is statistics not YOUR PROPAGANDA ON TV
 

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