Waddani Productions Documentary on Afghanistan

[Galool]

 

[Galool]

His last documentary was about the Madkhalis

 

[reer]

i hope they do a video on the early takfiri movement that the modern "salafism" stems from. with its multiple strains like madkhalism sururism jihadism etc.

 

[Dhiirane]

Nonsense those who you guys call Madkhalis have always spoken against extremism.

just because they don't follow you desires , name callin won't change the reality.

 

[Farsi]

i hope they do a video on the early takfiri movement that the modern "salafism" stems from. with its multiple strains like madkhalism sururism jihadism etc.

There's around 7 groups that claim salafiyyah. which do you belong to?

 

[reer]

There's around 7 groups that claim salafiyyah. which do you belong to?

bro im not "salafi". but is nearly amazing how they have so many strains continue to splinter. the cilmi (knowledge) salafis, sururis (varying mixtures between ikhwanism and salafism), jihadis, madkhalis, haddadis.
the madkhalis of egypt have beef with raslan camp vs biyali camp. raslan and biyali did tabdiic on each other. lol. the madkhalis also have the yasir burhami camp with hizb noor who is like the big boss of madkhalis of egypt. lol. the drama between the rabee al madkhali camp vs mohamed al madkhali camp. lol. dont forget the salafi jihadi isis do takfir on al qaeda and madkhalis. it goes on and on. then there are the hazimis who are takfiris.
the haddadis lack a lot of the diplomacy and will declare even major past scholars as deviants with salafi principles. haddadis declared nawawi as deviant for being ashari. the other salafi strains condemned them but at the same time they declare asharis deviant sect. lol. the prominent ones from other "salafi" strains said nawawi only agreed with asharis in certain issues or was "mistaken" or "affected by his time". lol. they condemn the haddadis for essentially being truthful to the principles they all share.



@Omar del Sur which one do you belong to bro?

 

[Dhiirane]

bro im not "salafi". but is nearly amazing how they have so many strains continue to splinter. the cilmi (knowledge) salafis, sururis (varying mixtures between ikhwanism and salafism), jihadis, madkhalis, haddadis.
the madkhalis of egypt have beef with raslan camp vs biyali camp. raslan and biyali did tabdiic on each other. lol. the madkhalis also have the yasir burhami camp with hizb noor who is like the big boss of madkhalis of egypt. lol. the drama between the rabee al madkhali camp vs mohamed al madkhali camp. lol. dont forget the salafi jihadi isis do takfir on al qaeda and madkhalis. it goes on and on. then there are the hazimis who are takfiris.
the haddadis lack a lot of the diplomacy and will declare even major past scholars as deviants with salafi principles. haddadis declared nawawi as deviant for being ashari. the other salafi strains condemned them but at the same time they declare asharis deviant sect. lol. the prominent ones from other "salafi" strains said nawawi only agreed with asharis in certain issues or was "mistaken" or "affected by his time". lol. they condemn the haddadis for essentially being truthful to the principles they all share.



@Omar del Sur which one do you belong to bro?

There is nothing called salafi jihad, just like there is nothing called Wahabis.
These terms are used by pseudo journalists and it's disinformation in order turn people away from the truth.


Groups like Isis, shabab are not Salafis .

 

[Dhiirane]

Watch this to know where the term "Wahabi" came from and the politics behind it.

 

[Galool]

bro im not "salafi". but is nearly amazing how they have so many strains continue to splinter. the cilmi (knowledge) salafis, sururis (varying mixtures between ikhwanism and salafism), jihadis, madkhalis, haddadis.
the madkhalis of egypt have beef with raslan camp vs biyali camp. raslan and biyali did tabdiic on each other. lol. the madkhalis also have the yasir burhami camp with hizb noor who is like the big boss of madkhalis of egypt. lol. the drama between the rabee al madkhali camp vs mohamed al madkhali camp. lol. dont forget the salafi jihadi isis do takfir on al qaeda and madkhalis. it goes on and on. then there are the hazimis who are takfiris.
the haddadis lack a lot of the diplomacy and will declare even major past scholars as deviants with salafi principles. haddadis declared nawawi as deviant for being ashari. the other salafi strains condemned them but at the same time they declare asharis deviant sect. lol. the prominent ones from other "salafi" strains said nawawi only agreed with asharis in certain issues or was "mistaken" or "affected by his time". lol. they condemn the haddadis for essentially being truthful to the principles they all share.



@Omar del Sur which one do you belong to bro?

You are just naming madkhali groups and strains. Madkhalism splinters by nature, they spend all their time attacking Muslims. Jihadi is not a group, that is a foreign slander made up in the west, their is no such group. There are genuine Muslims who fight oppression that are labelled this, such as in Palestine. Then there are groups who are either created or manipulated by western intelligence agencies to further their aims.

It is not "Salafis" per se, even though madkhalis go out of their way unlike most to call themselves "Salafis". It is just madkhalis.

 

[Galool]

 

[reer]

You are just naming madkhali groups and strains. Madkhalism splinters by nature, they spend all their time attacking Muslims. Jihadi is not a group, that is a foreign slander made up in the west, their is no such group. There are genuine Muslims who fight oppression that are labelled this, such as in Palestine. Then there are groups who are either created or manipulated by western intelligence agencies to further their aims.

It is not "Salafis" per se, even though madkhalis go out of their way unlike most to call themselves "Salafis". It is just madkhalis.

no. taliban fought america. they are not salafi. their leaders are maturidis. hamas isnt rooted in salafism. they also destroyed a salafi jihadi group that rebelled in gaza. izz al deen al qassam wasnt salafi. 'salafis' themselves splinter not just madkhalis. isis vs alqaeda. it is not restricted to madkhalis. as for the madkhali position you should read what the wahhabi sh sulayman bin sahman said aobut the ottomans vs british. you will find similarity between him and madkhalis.
the term salafi jihadi describes a salafi who takes up arms.
for example saleh al fawzan and isis have similar fundamentals from mohamed bin abdul wahab and the movement he founded. isis students study similar books in aqeedah to the ones that ibn baz would teach to his students. the similar aqeedah books taught by sh xassaan. the similar aqeedah books taught by the burco 'salafis'. and the south asian 'salafis' and the london 'salafis'.
for example the book durar saniyah isnt really taught or translated world wide. it contains mass takfir and was praised by ibn baz ibn uthaymen saleh fawzan etc. here is some takfir:

When the people of the Haramain were turning away from Islam.
https://archive.org/details/1241825/09_41822/page/n283/mode/2up

....the deviation of many people in this time from the religion, and their outright apostasy.
https://shamela.ws/book/3055/7334#p1

Whoever does not declare the polytheists from the Turkish state and the worshipers of graves, like the people of Mecca and others who worship the righteous, to be disbelievers; and whoever deviates from the monotheism of God to shirk, and replaces the Sunnah of His Messenger (peace be upon him) with innovations, is a disbeliever like them, even if he hates their religion, despises them, and loves Islam and Muslims. For the one who does not declare the polytheists to be disbelievers is not a believer in the Qur'an, because the Qur'an has declared the polytheists to be disbelievers, commanded their disbelief, and called for their enmity and fighting.
https://shamela.ws/book/3055/4015

From Muhammad bin Abdul Latif, to whom it may concern, in Asir, and all of Hijaz, and Yemen, may Allah guide them to the religion of Islam. Afterward: Know that what we believe in, what we worship Allah with, and what we call people to, and strive for, is the religion of Islam, which Allah has obligated upon His servants.
https://shamela.ws/book/3055/571

 

[Farsi]

@reer @Galool The PDF titled 'The Counterfeit Salafis' explains the groups that lay claim to Salafiyyah. It was written by Dr Tariq Abdel Haleem, some people describe him as a salafi-jihadi. He's based in canada, I would be cautious to take his words. It's not a bad book.

https://tariq-abdelhaleem.net/ar/uploads/attach/1522079503Salafis_total_book-V01_Eng1.pdf

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