Was Farmaajo a better president then Hassan sheikh Mohamud?

[Revolutionarry]

So ur aabe fought alongside the wslf. So did my aabe…he’s looking for his wslf comrade could that be your aabe??

wslf and in 1964 war. His dad fought and died in 1951 after smoking some hiale selasi soldiers.

we are family sxb, don't think I am anti OG.

 

[jusbrowsin]

Both terrible. Only someone from Puntland can save Somalia

 

[Keo]

Somalia has taken more Ls with HSM.

 

[repo]

HSM was doing marginally better until he sold the sea to Ethiopia despite many international embarrassments and blatant Hawiye tribalism.

Now Farmaajo clears him.

 

[Land Of The Brave]

Not only am I Ogaden, my family is well known among OG circles. If you look through my posts, you can put two and two together and probably find out who my dad is. Farmaajo did wrong Ogaden as a clan, but right now Somalis as people as facing existentional threats from Ethiopia. I can't be stuck on the past, I am sure my clan wrong others too, specially Farmaajo's clan members with what they did in kismaayo. Men fight, and they move on. I refuse to harbor cuqdad sxb.

With that out of the way, I do think those Somalis with the slighest caqli are now seeing the importance of the wars we OGs have been waging over the decades, because it's only after we stopped, that Ethiopia is now eying sea access.

Then I apologize for accusing your mother of zina.

Walal, you need a bit of education, Ogaden has NEVER wronged any clan, it was always them who wronged us. Mx stole Gedo from us during barres era and bc they have stolen one state they now want Kismayo even though they have never historically lived in one inch of Kismayo.

During the civil war, they have taken guulwade, a government land and forcefully occupy it to this day. As for ethiopia what is coming to Somalis, especially in the North is karma, they have crossed all human decency and most importantly, the Islamic boundary and handed Muslims fleeing from Christian oppression back to their christian oppressors. THAT IS UNFORGIVABLE, both humanly and Islamically, what these Ogadenphobes have done, takes a person out of the fold of Islam and on top of it, they DENY IT.. Our Prophet(pbh) did not forgive Muslims who aided Non Muslims who were an enemy to Muslims, so, why should we forive them. And it isnt called cuqdad, its called having self preservation and dignity, how does one, for hundreds of years, continuously, forgives a people united to exterminate us. Allah says in the Quran ( and I am just paraphrasing it) "if one seeks to destroy your livelihood to fight back". This culture of Somalis oppressing others and when the oppressed voice their pain is abused even more and called "cuqdadlaawe" is PURE EVIL and has no bases in Islam and no other group including those somalis hypocrites would ever accept it. They all want to kick us out of JL, clans who either came on the backs of gaalo to land grab or during the civil war.

Somalis using Ethiopia to wipe us out isnt the first time, they sided with the English to annihilate our ancestors and in more recent years the USA and the Belgians who raped our women in Waamo state.

A lot of Ogaden lack dhiig and are cowards and therein lies the BIGGEST problem. None Ogaden relentlessly attacked us bc Ogaden men refuse to fight back out of "Somalinomo".

If Ethiopia does succeed in the mou, I am not wishing they do, but if Allah wills it, it will benefit Ogaden, our people will no longer be land locked, if Ogadenia stays under occupation than In Sha Allah, something will come out to our benefit. Ogaden should stay away from the mou, and I hope not a single Ogaden man fights for the North since they have always, to this day, see us as an enemy, let them reap what they have sowed for over 200 years.

 

[FAST_LANE]

We are cursed if the options is between those two.. Both of them have major flaws and both of them wouldn't be trusted on clerical positions in a civilized world. HSM runs the country as a donkey herder. He doesn't trust his prime minister, and doesn't trust ministers either. He has be in every international meeting, even if it means sharing seat with a foreign minister of another country. All this because. We all remember that recent meeting in Saudi Arabia on Palestine summit. Instead of sending his PM, who's fluent in Arabic and was the perfect person to represent us, he took an overnight flight with broken arm to attend the summit. The real motive was to beg money on the way back.

Farmajo's last job before he got involved in politics was a team member of a transportation logistics company. His former co-workers were shocked when they learnt he has became the president of Somalia. Not only was he orally challenged , he was the type of person who was told what to do by team leaders. All those shortcomings were masked by Fahad Yasin who's extremely bright from what I've seen from him.

 

[Nes]

You lot are on drugs. Somalia from 2017-22 basically didn't change.

The thing is he was much better in less corruption and more competent in foreign affairs. No tribalism but the darood leaders seem to care more about putting the national interest first due being the largest clan in Somalia.

 

[Hurder]

Farmaajo will do an better job. This is coming from an Abgaal. Another HSM term with all the illegal landgrabbings wont end well. Farmaajo has dictator tendencies. But is less corrupt than HSM. HSM could care less about Somalis wellbeing

 

[Nur_]

Was Mohamud Abdullahi Farmaajo a better president then the current Hassan sheikh Mohamud?

In my personal opinion, so far I believe Farmaajo was a better president then Hassan sheikh. He was way more strategic and more calculated then Hassan sheikh.

Hassan sheikh has made multiple mistakes when it comes to his leadership decisions. He initiated a war against AS while not being millitarily ready to win this war. This has led to a failed war against AS as well as many SNA troops being xasuuqed.

Many people may have critisized Farmaajo for his lack of fighting against AS. But at the same time with foresight it is clear that Somali government was not equipt with the weapons nor numbers to win a war against AS. But instead Farmaajo spent his time building the SNA which long term would have guaranteed the defeat of AS. Now what is happening is that the focus of the nation is being guided towards a fight against Ethiopia.

Another mistake Hassan sheikh is currently making is rushing into a war with Ethiopia, especially with the fact that the people of Somalia are extremely divided and there is no untied front against Ethiopia. With certain states such as SWS and Jubbaland having thousands of Ethiopian troops entering and leaving the country at will.

It seems like now we are rushing into this war against Ethiopia which will lead to a proxy war with Egypt and Ethiopia fighting in Somalia. This could lead to many Somalis losing their lives in the crossfire between the two countries. This will be detrimental to Somalia and it's people.

I totally wholeheartedly believe that Farmaajo NN and his politics was x100 better then Hassan sheikh mohamud and his politics. Especially with the way he dealt with the politics and our neighbours. Somalia was way more stable under his leadership.

I also believe when it comes to 1 man 1 vote Farmaajo would definitely get more votes then Hassan sheikh. He has more population supporters compared to Hassan sheikh but it is only because of the 4.5 system that Hassan sheikh got re-elected. I also believe that Farmaajo has a valid chance of returning to the seat.

Thoughts do you guys agree?

How exactly does the 4.5 voting system work and why did it help HSM win? Sorry, I'm not well versed on the system.

 

[TheLand]

Then I apologize for accusing your mother of zina.

Walal, you need a bit of education, Ogaden has NEVER wronged any clan, it was always them who wronged us. Mx stole Gedo from us during barres era and bc they have stolen one state they now want Kismayo even though they have never historically lived in one inch of Kismayo.

During the civil war, they have taken guulwade, a government land and forcefully occupy it to this day. As for ethiopia what is coming to Somalis, especially in the North is karma, they have crossed all human decency and most importantly, the Islamic boundary and handed Muslims fleeing from Christian oppression back to their christian oppressors. THAT IS UNFORGIVABLE, both humanly and Islamically, what these Ogadenphobes have done, takes a person out of the fold of Islam and on top of it, they DENY IT.. Our Prophet(pbh) did not forgive Muslims who aided Non Muslims who were an enemy to Muslims, so, why should we forive them. And it isnt called cuqdad, its called having self preservation and dignity, how does one, for hundreds of years, continuously, forgives a people united to exterminate us. Allah says in the Quran ( and I am just paraphrasing it) "if one seeks to destroy your livelihood to fight back". This culture of Somalis oppressing others and when the oppressed voice their pain is abused even more and called "cuqdadlaawe" is PURE EVIL and has no bases in Islam and no other group including those somalis hypocrites would ever accept it. They all want to kick us out of JL, clans who either came on the backs of gaalo to land grab or during the civil war.

Somalis using Ethiopia to wipe us out isnt the first time, they sided with the English to annihilate our ancestors and in more recent years the USA and the Belgians who raped our women in Waamo state.

A lot of Ogaden lack dhiig and are cowards and therein lies the BIGGEST problem. None Ogaden relentlessly attacked us bc Ogaden men refuse to fight back out of "Somalinomo".

If Ethiopia does succeed in the mou, I am not wishing they do, but if Allah wills it, it will benefit Ogaden, our people will no longer be land locked, if Ogadenia stays under occupation than In Sha Allah, something will come out to our benefit. Ogaden should stay away from the mou, and I hope not a single Ogaden man fights for the North since they have always, to this day, see us as an enemy, let them reap what they have sowed for over 200 years.

 

[Jungle]

This is coming from an Abgaal

Gtfoh Badow badow dhalay

 

[Hurder]

Gtfoh Badow badow dhalay

You’re retarded if you’re still supporting HSM. My other account @Saintz. I was supporting HSM aswell. But truth be told hes an weak, ineffective leader. He doesn’t even show the deals he signs to his own parliament. Dude is flying every second. Has to beg for ATMIS to stay In WSJ (libtard newsite)

 

[TheLand]

You’re retarded if you’re still supporting HSM. My other account @Saintz. I was supporting HSM aswell. But truth be told hes a weak, ineffective leader. And you will see that the moment ATMIS leaves

I could always tell you were Abgaal

 

[Hurder]

I could always tell you were Abgaal

Nah F off taking the piss

 

[Jungle]

You’re retarded if you’re still supporting HSM. My other account @Saintz. I was supporting HSM aswell. But truth be told hes an weak, ineffective leader. And you will see that the moment ATMIS leaves

My post was more so aimed at your false claim of abgaal osman. Only thing I quoted out of your qashin post

 

[Hurder]

My post was more so aimed at your false claim of abgaal osman. Only thing I quoted out of your qashin post

You’re retarded take your meds. Gatekeeping to another level

 

[TheLand]

Nah F off taking the piss

Sure, I’m taking the piss

 

[Jungle]

You’re retarded take your meds. Gatekeeping to another level

Don't claim something you're not duli

 

[always hungryy]

Who do you think Is better farmaajo or habibul malyiin hsm?

 

[TheLand]

Who do you think Is better farmaajo or habibul malyiin hsm?

Farmaajo and I don’t even think it’s a debate at this point.