Because the people got too big for their boots they read some french books and thought they could pull off a revolution
Was their a Somali Dark Ages?
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Somaliweyn had a small population and we never had any problem with nutrition as somalis were very tall from every historical transcript taken from them. Even photos from colonialist show somalis as very healthy.
We faced less wars than other populations like the europeans or the Asians.
The only major struggle we went through was the civil war.
Sub Sahara Africans have always been in dark age.
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Are you a real somali?
Yes I'm Somali, but I'm not planning to move back.
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What do you mean Genetic expression? Are you saying Africans are genetically inferior when it comes to cognitive abilities to other populations?
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Somalis had the cognitive ability to use a calendar to know when the best time to travel the Indian ocean. Which shows advanced foresight.
Somali pastoralist nomads memorised paths to travel to wells and vegetation. Showing environmental awareness.
Somali farmers were in tune with the seasons. Just like European or Asian farmers.
Europeans were pressured by a harsh winter and Africans were pressured by harsh droughts. We both had environments which forced us to advance cognitive abilities.
Somali pastoralist nomads memorised paths to travel to wells and vegetation. Showing environmental awareness.
Somali farmers were in tune with the seasons. Just like European or Asian farmers.
Europeans were pressured by a harsh winter and Africans were pressured by harsh droughts. We both had environments which forced us to advance cognitive abilities.
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If you want to argue this please make a new thread and don't derail this one
Our first known dark ages would have to be after the fall of Adal and the oromo tribes migration into present day oromiya. That’s for the galbeed and for Somalis in the south began after the fall of the ajuuraan empire to the pastoral clans from qalaafe to muqdisho.
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So your saying somalis fell from massive sultanates to smaller clan based societies. Very similar to the aftermath of the civil war.
Can you please tell me what led to the fall of Adal?
Now.
We put all our resources into conquering the habesha highlands. Before adal the habesha kingdom was so strong that previous Muslim and somali sultans before adal were paying high amounts of tax to avoid a war with them and disrupt the somali coastal trade that was very profiting. We went from avoiding habesha and paying them a share of the our profits in the sea trade to conquering them. They put up a great fight even crying for the Christian world and Portuguese rifle men arrived to their aid making it hard for the Somalis to completely conquer the habesha. Calling for more ottoman troops would also cost us a lot of money we couldn’t pay which meant we will come under ottoman rule which Somalis didn’t want to.
We retreated back to harar and the migrating oromo tribes from northern Kenya ended up raiding both the weakened and broke adal and habesha kingdoms. Somalis went back to the their wild days each man his own sultan. Most clans migrated to present day somalia like the marehan and harti. Only few like the Geri and jidwaaq stayed back after losing and gaining back some lands. The famous wiilwaal family who conquered back jigjiga by killing oromo gaal gurey.
The earliest E3B cluster in somali males dated as far back as 3000 BC 500 years before the land of punt. with regards to the haplogroup T,
We find that the individuals buried in Peqi’in Cave represent a relatively genetically homogenous population. This homogeneity is evident not only in the genome-wide analyses but also in the fact that most of the male individuals (nine out of ten) belong to the Y-chromosome haplogroup T (see Supplementary Table 1), a lineage thought to have diversified in the Near East46. This finding contrasts with both earlier (Neolithic and Epipaleolithic) Levantine populations, which were dominated by haplogroup E24, and later Bronze Age individuals, all of whom belonged to haplogroup J24,26.
The material culture of the Late Chalcolithic period in the southern Levant (4500–3900/3800 BCE) is qualitatively distinct from previous and subsequent periods. Here, to test the hypothesis that the advent and decline of this culture was influenced by movements of people, we generated genome-wide ancient DNA from 22 individuals from Peqi’in Cave, Israel. These individuals were part of a homogeneous population that can be modeled as deriving ~57% of its ancestry from groups related to those of the local Levant Neolithic, ~17% from groups related to those of the Iran Chalcolithic, and ~26% from groups related to those of the Anatolian Neolithic. The Peqi’in population also appears to have contributed differently to later Bronze Age groups, one of which we show cannot plausibly have descended from the same population as that of Peqi’in Cave. These results provide an example of how population movements propelled cultural changes in the deep past.
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We find that the individuals buried in Peqi’in Cave represent a relatively genetically homogenous population. This homogeneity is evident not only in the genome-wide analyses but also in the fact that most of the male individuals (nine out of ten) belong to the Y-chromosome haplogroup T (see Supplementary Table 1), a lineage thought to have diversified in the Near East46. This finding contrasts with both earlier (Neolithic and Epipaleolithic) Levantine populations, which were dominated by haplogroup E24, and later Bronze Age individuals, all of whom belonged to haplogroup J24,26.
The material culture of the Late Chalcolithic period in the southern Levant (4500–3900/3800 BCE) is qualitatively distinct from previous and subsequent periods. Here, to test the hypothesis that the advent and decline of this culture was influenced by movements of people, we generated genome-wide ancient DNA from 22 individuals from Peqi’in Cave, Israel. These individuals were part of a homogeneous population that can be modeled as deriving ~57% of its ancestry from groups related to those of the local Levant Neolithic, ~17% from groups related to those of the Iran Chalcolithic, and ~26% from groups related to those of the Anatolian Neolithic. The Peqi’in population also appears to have contributed differently to later Bronze Age groups, one of which we show cannot plausibly have descended from the same population as that of Peqi’in Cave. These results provide an example of how population movements propelled cultural changes in the deep past.
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You see am somewhat of a history novice but the way you discribed the past was so story-like. I wish there was more information on Somali history that the average Somali could understand.I would binge watch a YouTube or podcast discussing Somali history in the manner in which you are doing it right now.
I hope some one educated comes along and puts out podcast or even animation narrated history lessons.
It’s hard to truly state since Somalis didn’t write down much and were an oral people. It’d be interesting to see the Horn of Africa true history over the last 1.5 k years tbh
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