we’re not the same

[Varriris]

Years ago I came across a facebook page of an AS supporter. All of the photos he’d post were of children. Some wielding guns, some wearing fake suicidebomb vests, others carrying their banner. The other day I saw similar photos again. It’s crazy to think that this is even real. Or that this is apart of normal life in some parts of Somalia.

It made me wonder.. what does a future Somalia even look like when you have an entire generation who’ve lived under AS rule since they were children. They carry a different worldview, beliefsystem, valuesystem from their fellow somalis. Like what does the young men growing up in Borama, Garowe and Jamame have in common? How are they meant to share a country? Is the FGS even capable of deradicalizing entire cities?

 

[gasara]

Thats so jarring. I would like to think if we increased the living standards less people would join it. But their will always be that subsection of crazy fanatics. Idk why we had to be cursed with these crazy ass people.

 

[Avalanche]

That's the reality of having an absentee government that fails to recognise the needs of the people. To have no one to hold people to account and safeguard their population. That is the sad reality without taking into consideration the incompetence that exists among Somali politicians, it is disturbing how badly we are doing.

 

[Varriris]

Thats so jarring. I would like to think if we increased the living standards less people would join it. But their will always be that subsection of crazy fanatics. Idk why we had to be cursed with these crazy ass people.

It’s so bizarre when you think of it. Like some people join not because of ideological conviction but for financial, survival or they have grievances towards the state. those are obvs alot easier to deal with and can be rehabilitated

but what about those children who grew up under their rule for a decade or two. Only taught their ideology, never left their village/city, most of their youth and early adulthood was spent in service of them, taught to see their own state, non AS somalis, the rest of the world as their enemies.

 

[Varriris]

That's the reality of having an absentee government that fails to recognise the needs of the people. To have no one to hold people to account and safeguard their population. That is the sad reality.

fills me with rage tbh. Alot of the other issues caused by lack of a viable state can be resolved much easier. But do you rehabilitate hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of people ? How are those people meant to live a normal life in a post-AS society

 

[Avalanche]

fills me with rage tbh. Alot of the other issues caused by lack of a viable state can be resolved much easier. But do you rehabilitate hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of people ? How are those people meant to live a normal life in a post-AS society

What really matters is having a functioning government that gives people confidence. That is the first step. The second step is to show that trust will not be betrayed by building up the country's healthcare, education, infrastructure, etc. It's a very simple solution but unfortunately we are stuck in a battle between nationalism and qabyaalad. Clans should not have any importance in a society. We have allowed it to grow so much that it is an everyday reality for many people in the homeland. Your clan does this, my clan does that. Your clan kills one of mine, either you pay blood money or we go to war, etc.

We are in an endless circle, I keep questioning people's common sense. Do they want to live in hell all their lives just so their qabil rules so you can brag?

 

[EyiPunter]

Years ago I came across a facebook page of an AS supporter. All of the photos he’d post were of children. Some wielding guns, some wearing fake suicidebomb vests, others carrying their banner. The other day I saw similar photos again. It’s crazy to think that this is even real. Or that this is apart of normal life in some parts of Somalia.

It made me wonder.. what does a future Somalia even look like when you have an entire generation who’ve lived under AS rule since they were children. They carry a different worldview, beliefsystem, valuesystem from their fellow somalis. Like what does the young men growing up in Borama, Garowe and Jamame have in common? How are they meant to share a country? Is the FGS even capable of deradicalizing entire cities?

Abayo this problem is top down issue. If the people in control of these region with AS wanted them out they could get rid of them. For instance we have more effort in qabil fights Somalia then fighter AS people. In addition look at where they are located what's important there ? And who are aiding these people? We are people at the end of the day we eat and where drink water. Now who is bring or giving or even letting these people in? These regional leaders want the destabilize of Somalia this is how they make there money. AS is a business and not a tero group in Somalia. It is ugly when you find out the truth

 

[gasara]

It’s so bizarre when you think of it. Like some people join not because of ideological conviction but for financial, survival or they have grievances towards the state. those are obvs alot easier to deal with and can be rehabilitated

but what about those children who grew up under their rule for a decade or two. Only taught their ideology, never left their village/city, most of their youth and early adulthood was spent in service of them, taught to see their own state, non AS somalis, the rest of the world as their enemies.

Some of those kids I can't lie to you will be a lost cause. Inshallah hopefully we will be able to minimize the violence they were taught so they do not harm anymore Somalis. Ideology wise it will be harder. Its just like how people know racism and discrimination is wrong in 2024 yet still continue to engage in it. But the most important thing is how the government is going to go about stopping these radical individuals who believe that by killing innocent people they will go to Jannah. Lowkey they should do it like the Western governments do it and just gather information then send them to jail.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Years ago I came across a facebook page of an AS supporter. All of the photos he’d post were of children. Some wielding guns, some wearing fake suicidebomb vests, others carrying their banner. The other day I saw similar photos again. It’s crazy to think that this is even real. Or that this is apart of normal life in some parts of Somalia.

It made me wonder.. what does a future Somalia even look like when you have an entire generation who’ve lived under AS rule since they were children. They carry a different worldview, beliefsystem, valuesystem from their fellow somalis. Like what does the young men growing up in Borama, Garowe and Jamame have in common? How are they meant to share a country? Is the FGS even capable of deradicalizing entire cities?

Dude their always motives and agendas behind any project in Somalia. Shabab is a two sided coin that support a clan agenda of HG to keep Somalia unstable at any cost(war economy benefits them greatly), and also to use the shabab as hired guns for business competition threat from diaspora or locals.

91 to 2006 they made alot of money thru loot on private properties and govt assets and checkpoints at airports and roads inside or outside Mogadishu, that accumulated over time.

Shabab became another cash cow(zako revenue), stops a govt emerging, plus can be used as hire guns(niin afka soo duubtay is sent to you if you threaten any of their business models) which keeps diaspora terrified from going there. Yet none of u actually remove the cancer but play into their game plan which is to spread conflict across clans, businesses, and politicians and even now religion.

Remove this cancer from the Somali body not play into their game plan, why allow 1 clan sow conflict thru all of u, iyaga ayaa fudud hana dhaafeen. Surely someone has the balls to say war habar gedir waxad cuni karteen cunteen dalkan amaan ha idin ka helo mise mashruc kale ayaa ku xigo after warlord and shabab, hawiye action group, iyo hsm(iyaga ayaa isticmalo that man) ayaa ku Hawlan tihin.

 

[Araabi]

Years ago I came across a facebook page of an AS supporter. All of the photos he’d post were of children. Some wielding guns, some wearing fake suicidebomb vests, others carrying their banner. The other day I saw similar photos again. It’s crazy to think that this is even real. Or that this is apart of normal life in some parts of Somalia.

It made me wonder.. what does a future Somalia even look like when you have an entire generation who’ve lived under AS rule since they were children. They carry a different worldview, beliefsystem, valuesystem from their fellow somalis. Like what does the young men growing up in Borama, Garowe and Jamame have in common? How are they meant to share a country? Is the FGS even capable of deradicalizing entire cities?

Borama has no affiliation with the ideology of AS so the example is redundant. You will not find any alhamdulillah and if they exist they can never show their face.

The reason is because we have a strong Islamic committee led by traditional Shafi'i scholars who are opposed to the dangerous ideology of Takfirism/Salafism. Until the rest of the Somalis go back to their traditional mantle, the headchoppers will sadly remain.