I agree a women back home not defending or caring abt her tribe is like being a traitor . All the women back home have either uncles, husbands, sons and cousins who fight in these wars why do we expect them not to be tribal when their family is put at risk and even innocent families can be killed bec of these clashes. I’m not defending them but it’s very difficult for these people to stop their mentality it’s a never ending cycle
But they already did broke away back in 2023. I don't see how their recent attack on Ceerigaabo was done for any political reason. Seemed like a blatant land grab to me.
“All politics is identity politics” as Ezra Klein/Yglesias say and our main identity is our clan.I choose to ignore ''clan-talk'' or disavow it because i truly come to find it to be a nonsense.
It's just discursive narratives around someones clan, both simplifying peoples goals and motives and attributing political loyalties and collective behavior through someones clan background, divorced from the reality.
It is also divorced from what the function of what clan really is, which is just a socio-economic support vehicle not a political mobilization vehicle. So the most important thing should be about putting the focus on how to improve peoples livelihoods and how to deliver services.
You see even researchers who even looked into this clan talk , begun to see it for what it is
Political Identity as Temporal Collapse: Ethiopian Federalism and Contested Ogaden Histories
Abstract. Since the 1980s, analyses of African political identities have emphasized identity manipulation as a governance tool. In the Somali Horn of Africacademic.oup.com
Ya'll can tag people with this or that clan and do ''FKD'' as yall like to call it which is essentially professional BS'ing, while the rest of us will focus on bread and butter policy building and socio-economic stuff that actually matters and reflects reality.
Yet for some reason they arent, nor is there a central body legitimately seen as a national army. I wonder why?
You don’t know what you’re talking about. idoor kept targeting SSC civilians that’s what kicked of the conflict. One things for certain though Cerigabo won’t see peace anytime soon
Yes I'm aware of why the conflict started but c'mon, they did an unprovoked attack when there has been a military stalemate for over a year. Ceerigaabo has been peaceful up until then.
You expect reer sool to keep quiet while our people keep getting targeted?
That city is segregated asf it was never that peaceful to begin with it was already brewing.
Self defense is perfectly understandable but Ceerigaabo is in Sanaag.
Ceerigaabo is our land too ,qoloma taxay warya? I don’t like the whole clueless act you got going on
Why are you hiding your qabil lolSo its a tribal conflict like I said
“All politics is identity politics” as Ezra Klein/Yglesias say and our main identity is our clan.
Although its reductive to boil a politicians every move to clan, the truly divorced from reality viewpoint is that clan is “meant as a socioeconomic vehicle”, when its been our form of political order for millenia.
Like all social constructs clan exists with the meaning we ascribe to it, and for +30 years in a row its been applied overtly as a political grouping. This is why you dont take a paper on Ethiopian-Somalis relationship to eachother/inter-ethnically and try applying it to Somalia 1:1 which exists in a completely different context. This paper also largely revolves around Iley and unnatural political plants anyways who are deeply unpopular for Ogadens and others i’d hardly consider this an authoritative reference on who supports what especially considering its authors were NON-Somali aswell. The basis for the authors opinions is 60 interviews/conversations…
Imagine thinking viewing politics through clan came from whitey. The author also has a theory that Reer Cabdille wasnt relevant to Ogadens because a Tolomoge told him so
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Yet for some reason they arent, nor is there a central body legitimately seen as a national army. I wonder why?
National army in question choosing Kenyan captivity instead of handing arms to JL.
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Thats exactly whats expected. The most egregious offenders of qabyalad whether through bias or malicious intent want you to close your eyes to qabiil.
I never referenced IM lewis lol all you did was reference where Lidwein wrote what was being referenced in the paper. Lazy work, in your own post she establishes the normative scholarly opinion...
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The real change is from warlords in Kismayo famously stealing peoples food off their stoves to now building roads, drainage, schools, and water infrastructure with a transparent land registry ending disputes and a more disciplined ordered force then the SNA.
Imagine thinking viewing politics through clan came from whitey.
You have to contend with your reference saying this is an idea in "infancy" and non-normative before you try and canonize it. What she credits as Lewisian is seen as natural and obvious to most and is impossible to substantiate that IM created it.
