All our ancestors are gaal according to some on here and we have wiped our centuries of culture in the last 30 years.
We Cannot Rule Ourselves with a Law Sent Down 1400 Years ago
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This section is called Islam it's for muslims
You aint somali you traitor. Ana arab bootlicker.
Ok I'm not somali just leave my thread
Current Somalis would most definitely Takfir 19th to early 20th century Somalis. What these guys don't really get is that Islam came to Somalia in a syncretic manner because it came via trade and not warfare and conquest similar to some parts of Southeast Asia. This means a lot of the local, pre-Islamic culture got mixed into the deen and preserved rather than being eradicated:
But these same people would likely beat you to death with a club if you called them kafirs.
You just insecure like all salafs whenever someone points out fact and historical context because you are too busy trying to larp like its the 7th century. The type to call the great philosophers of the golden age who advanced Islam heretics (oh wait they did) . I have never met a well adjuste salaf before, every single one is incredibly insecure about the deen. Heck to the point were they cant even agree between themselves and call each other gaal. Like that pointing spiderman meme.
Reer baadiye were known for being unaware of many major tenets in Islam. Those in tuulos or magaalos were practicing.
Somalia produced some of the greatest Islamic minds from Africa.
I don't care
Nah bro youre wrong. They were all gaal. Oprah Winfrey style. You is gaal, he is a gaal, she is a gaal, EVERYBODYYYY IS A GAAAL.
These types are so successful in Somaliweyn that I'd honestly get into their line of business if I was psychopathic enough. They come on TV and egg sick, poor and desperate people into giving them their savings so they can go to Jannah.
Not with that attitude. You gotta be more upbeat for your al shabab interview. You got this, they need more brain dead folk who cant think for themselves. Practice shouting gaal in a dramatic fashion in the mirror. Remember to have the look of terror in your eyes and believe in yourself. You got this.
I don't buy this. Somali reer miyi like reer guuraa were known for being very up to date and well-informed. Examples from the 1800s:
The Somali Bedouins have a passion for knowing how the world wags. In some of the more desert regions the whole population of a village will follow the wanderer. No traveller ever passes a kraal without planting spear in the ground, and demanding answers to a lengthened string of queries: rather than miss intelligence he will inquire of a woman. Thus it is that news flies through the country. Among the wild Gudabirsi the Russian war was a topic of interest, and at Harar I heard of a violent storm, which had damaged the shipping in Bombay Harbour, but a few weeks after the event.
They know there was some storm that hit Bombay harbor and that there's a war in Russia but not about simple Islamic tenets? The reer magaalo were just more influenced by scholarship and developments coming out of Arabia due to Wadaads among their ranks often going to places like the Hejaz for an education hence their greater conservatism:
Though superstitious, the Somal are not bigoted like the Arabs, with the exception of those who, wishing to become learned, visit Yemen or El Hejaz, and catch the complaint. Nominal Mohammedans, El Islam hangs so lightly upon them, that apparently they care little for making it binding upon others.
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The settled Somal have a holy horror of dogs, and, Wahhabi-like, treat man’s faithful slave most
cruelly. The wild people are more humane; they pay two ewes for a good colley, and demand a two-year old sheep as “diyat” or blood-money for the animal, if killed.
Hadaad ka shigidid inu alshabaab yahay, ada alshabaab ah
Damm they got fatter
TekNiKo
Loyal To The One True Caliph (Hafidahullah)
I dont see anything wrong with what they said a "Pure Islamic State" is nothing but a modern concocted fantasy. After the 4 Khalifahs the Islamic world descended into civil war and Kingship reigned than it switched to tyrants. Theres no "perfect system" and majority of of our history was secular Sheikh Hamza Yusuf explains it perfectly
As someone who heard first-accounts from family members of reer baadiye during the early 20th century, they were uneducated muslims. As in they believed but didn't know much about the religion due to the lack of exposure to Islamic teaching for nomads.
Some were religious, some believed but didn't know how to pray or some still practiced outdated customs.
I don't buy this. Somali reer miyi like reer guuraa were known for being very up to date and well-informed. Examples from the 1800s:
The Somali Bedouins have a passion for knowing how the world wags. In some of the more desert regions the whole population of a village will follow the wanderer. No traveller ever passes a kraal without planting spear in the ground, and demanding answers to a lengthened string of queries: rather than miss intelligence he will inquire of a woman. Thus it is that news flies through the country. Among the wild Gudabirsi the Russian war was a topic of interest, and at Harar I heard of a violent storm, which had damaged the shipping in Bombay Harbour, but a few weeks after the event.
They know there was some storm that hit Bombay harbor and that there's a war in Russia but not about simple Islamic tenets? The reer magaalo were just more influenced by scholarship and developments coming out of Arabia due to Wadaads among their ranks often going to places like the Hejaz for an education hence their greater conservatism:
Though superstitious, the Somal are not bigoted like the Arabs, with the exception of those who, wishing to become learned, visit Yemen or El Hejaz, and catch the complaint. Nominal Mohammedans, El Islam hangs so lightly upon them, that apparently they care little for making it binding upon others.
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The settled Somal have a holy horror of dogs, and, Wahhabi-like, treat man’s faithful slave most
cruelly. The wild people are more humane; they pay two ewes for a good colley, and demand a two-year old sheep as “diyat” or blood-money for the animal, if killed.
As I said, if anyone was known for being uneducated on Islam it was reer baadiye during this period. There is a difference between hearing the news as a nomad and being able to study Islamic tenets in a nomadic lifestyle where other things are more important.
That does not mean all of them didn't know anything about the deen, most did but many of them still didn't pray or know how to.
Also, Harar is not baadiyo, it was a well established city even back then.
These types are so successful in Somaliweyn that I'd honestly get into their line of business if I was psychopathic enough. They come on TV and egg sick, poor and desperate people into giving them their savings so they can go to Jannah.
The ones in Somalia are worse, no shame. They will come to you saying its your awoowe's mowlid and request money to do a religious ceremony for him. Obviously, family will pay because they want dua'a for their relatives (as long dead as they are).
Don't even get me started on their businesses.
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