We have a Somali problem up in Minnesota

[Canuck]

I still remember how reer Minneapolis were protesting about food coupons

You can take them out of dadaab but you can't take dadaab out of them

P.s do they still run those prostitution rings there

You can take the hyena out of jungle but you can not take the jungle out of hyena, savage will stay savage all their life

 

[waraabe]

You can take the hyena out of jungle but you can not take the jungle out of hyena, savage will stay savage all life

Why are you getting emotional

 

[Zak Jingo]

That picture just gave me a headache.

@Barni, what would you want them to wear?

 

[Abdalla]

In what way?

If you mean politically, you have to understand that local political systems vary in the U.S. While Minneapolis for example has single member districts, with city council members appointed from particular districts, Columbus has at large elections. While Somalis in Minneapolis can dominate a particular district and vote one of their own in, a Somali candidate in Columbus doesn't have that ability and must compete against the entire city.

I've heard rumors that Columbus will soon establish district based elections though.

If you mean anything other than politics, I wouldn't think we're underperforming anybody.

In terms of politics they are light years ahead of the rest.

But also almost every feel good story that comes from the US usually happens in Minnesota. For example the girl that got accepted by all Ivy League uni's was from Minnesota.

 

[Canuck]

New styles of hijab (Turkish style hijab)

 

[Geeljire]

@Bahal

I found this overview from 2009 of the Somali community in Ohio. I myself have never been there so i know very relative little, i also have no relatives in columbus as well.

The Somali Community is a Promising Economic Powerhouse in Ohio
http://www.guidestar.org/ViewEdoc.aspx?eDocId=966327&approved=True


Economic contributions:

Columbus Ohio has more than 400 Somali owned businesses. The businesses vary in size, revenue, and the number of employees. Here is a synopsis of some types of businesses:


Malls: Global Mall, Jubba Mall, West Site Mall, Banadir Mall, Westland Mall, Universal Marketplace, Aaran Discount Market and more.

Restaurants: African Paradise, Banadir Cuisine, Cananley, Darbo Restaurant, Iftin Restaurant, Bilan Restaurant, Calanley Restaurant, Banadir Restaurant Capital Café, Safari Café and others.


Other types of businesses include: cleaning companies, track/transportation companies, travel agencies, cab companies, auto sales dealerships, auto service shops, home healthcare agencies, retailers, barber shops, communications dealers, employment service agencies, money transfer and check cashing, gold dealers, charter schools, and nonprofit community support groups.


Somalis buy goods and services from local businesses to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars annually. They buy properties, cars, trucks, businesses and other commodities.

All these businesses and individual employees pay federal, state and local taxes on their incomes and on the commodities they purchase.

How do Somalis get all the money for starting these businesses you may ask! Somalis use an effective method of wealth accumulation which is compatible with their faith and culture. According to their Islamic faith, it is not allowed to charge or pay interest on money. If they borrow money, they are expected to pay back the same amount without incurring any interest. This facilitates investment and creation of new businesses.


Money is usually borrowed from friends or raised in a Somali system that pools resources together known as “Ayuuto” or “Shaloongo” where a number of people, usually 10-15, save a portion of their incomes every month or every pay period. For example, each of the 15 individuals saves $500 total amount becomes $7,500 which is given to one person who is ready to start business or invest the money. The process goes on for 15 months until everyone of the group gets paid $7,500. If this group wants to start a business together, they can raise $112,500 in fifteen months to start a business!

Professional contributions:

There are Somali doctors, nurses, lawyers, economists, engineers, architects, computer professionals, teachers, and entrepreneurs. Columbus is home for the leading minds of Somalia including the family of Somalia’s longest serving president, cabinet ministers, state governors, ambassadors/diplomats, professors, business tycoons and civil service employees. These people transfer knowledge and skills and inject it into the local economy.



Somalis are very hardworking and industrious people. Most young men and women work more than one job, run or co-own businesses and go to school! All this is positive for the economy.

Political contributions:

David Robinson, the Democratic Candidate for the 12th Congressional seat who received substantial support from Somalis in 2008 had told NPR “It’s an important number of votes. We figure there’s probably going to be somewhere between 350,000 and 400,000 votes cast totally for the 12th Congresstinal Seat, so 10,000 votes or so is an important constituency”. Robinson had won the Franklin County vote by more than 10,000 votes but he lost Delaware and Licking counties by a wide margin.

W. Carlton Weddington, the 27th District Representative in the Ohio House of Representatives, who successfully campaigned in the Somali community last year recognizes the size and the political influence of this community. Weddignton was responsible for the raising of the Somali flag at Ohio State House to commemorate the 49th anniversary of Somali independence.

In the 2008 US elections, the Somali community had actively participated in the process for the first time. The National Public Radio published a story entitled “Columbus Somalis Gain Citizenship, Head for Polls”

To be able to contribute to the economic and social development of the state, more than 3000 Somali students are enrolled in institutions of higher education in pursuit of Associates, Bachelor’s, Masters and Doctoral degrees. A professor at Franklin University told SomaliCAN Outreach Newsletter recently: “I can’t recall the last time I taught a graduate or an undergraduate class that didn’t have any Somalis”..

The Somali community is a powerhouse in regards to its economic impact of the Midwest. The economic and political clout that the community wields is expected to increase in the next decade. It is the community to watch as it transitions from seeking help to giving hope and help to millions of Americans.

 

[Bahal]

In terms of politics they are light years ahead of the rest.

But also almost every feel good story that comes from the US usually happens in Minnesota. For example the girl that got accepted by all Ivy League uni's was from Minnesota.

Like I said, politically we are screwed until we get district based voting like Minneapolis, along with expanding thecity council itself from 7 people representing a million people. Im quite certain if/when we do, a Somali dominated district would easily elect a Somali candidate.

As for the feel good stories, we just had a Somali Rhodes Scholar and a Somali Fulbright student. We doing aight

 

[Somali psycho]

I don't understand this Somali in Minneapolis are better than the Columbus ones they're both reer badiyoo. On the other hand, the Somalis in Virginia and DC area are reer magalo elite.

 

[Canuck]

I don't understand this Somali in Minneapolis are better than the Columbus ones they're both reer badiyoo. On the other hand, the Somalis in Virginia and DC area are reer magalo elite.

Most of Somalis in Minneapolis & Ohio are new comers unlike DC & Virginia who established themselves long time ago.

 

[Geeljire]

What is the fob to local ratio in Columbus?

In Scandinavia 60-70% of Somalis are fobs who haven't been here for more than 10 or less.

 

[Somali psycho]

What is the fob to local ratio in columbus?

Here in Scandinavia 60-70% of Somalis are fobs who haven't been for more than 10 or less.

90% of them came to Columbus in the last 15 years.

 

[EternalLightX]

Why are we talking about FOBS ? and as for integration please that will never happen I live in a majority British area and that's all becuase my mother didn't want the headache of living in a somali majority population. But I feel isolated from my somali brothers and sisters that's the bad part about it

 

[Abdalla]

It fucks with their integration. Somalis from Minneapolis and London are one of the worst integrated Somalis in the West because too many of them around in one place.

As long as you speak the language and contribute to society by either working or studying then you're integrated in my opinion. Asking for more than, i.e assimilation, is mental slavery.

One of the most successful immigrants in Germany are the Turks, who are around 5 million, and they stick to their own. Remember when Erdogan told them to resist assimilation.

 

[Geeljire]

90% of them came to Columbus in the last 15 years.

So they are still in the process of establishing themselves. In another ten years Somali community will have changed.

We are usually majority 1st generation in the west, so things will improve with time. It is a process.

 

[BebsiBolice]

@Barni, what would you want them to wear?

I just want them to stop wearing Halloween costumes.

 

[Zak Jingo]

I just want them to stop wearing Halloween costumes.

You could wear their clothes, learn their language, live on their lands, but they'll never accept you. Be proud of who you are.

 

[BebsiBolice]

You could wear their clothes, learn their language, live on their lands, but they'll never accept you. Be proud of who you are.

Excuse me? The motherfucking jilbaba is not a part of my culture so don't tell me be proud of who you are!!!!! I'm proud of my culture, I ware diracs and guntinoos and I eat my traditional food. f*ck you and everyone else who's trying to make these voldermort attires a somali tradition. I am proud of my culture hence why I revolt against the arabization of Somalis especially of Somali women. f*ck you you terrorist sympathizer.

 

[Zak Jingo]

Excuse me? The motherfucking jilbaba is not a part of my culture so don't tell me be proud of who you are!!!!! I'm proud of my culture, I ware diracs and guntinoos and I eat my traditional food. f*ck you and everyone else who's trying to make these voldermort attires a somali tradition. I am proud of my culture hence why I revolt against the arabization of Somalis especially of Somali women. f*ck you you terrorist sympathizer.

Nacala to you and your Scandinavian country. At the end of the day our religion counts, not some short 60-70 years we live. And don't be comparing Islam to terrorism.

 

[Geeljire]

As long as you speak the language and contribute to society by either working or studying then you're integrated in my opinion. Asking for more than, i.e assimilation, is mental slavery.

One of the most successful immigrants in Germany are the Turks, who are around 5 million, and they stick to their own. Remember when Erdogan told them to resist assimilation.

I agree.

people have to learn to differentiate between integration and assimilation

Assimilation describes a process in which individuals grow into a given cultural community , and gradually acquire this community norms and values , the individual's own standards can not be distinguished from society.

On integration as opposed to assimilation states : " By getting equal living conditions or opportunities should people , also with highly different values , be woven into society ."

When i read all the critics and detractions on Somalis who by and large are fairly new to the west. It seems more like a totalitarian demand that we should assimilate in order to be productive effecient citizens. Nothing could be further from the truth, as ive read countless studies on Somalis that prove otherwise

One look at Somalis in Canada will tell you the opposite.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Nacala to you and your Scandinavian country. At the end of the day our religion counts, not some short 60-70 years we live. And don't be comparing Islam to terrorism.

My culture counts too. People like you disgust me. You want us to erase our culture and take on your backwards beliefs. Somalia has existed long before Islam, our culture is old, beautiful and incredibly valued. Seeing Somali women dress in those disgusting garments is heartbreaking.