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like Mesut Ozil said :
German when we win ,but a an immigrant when we lose .
German when we win ,but a an immigrant when we lose .
Villainess
smooth talk on a rainy summer evening
Western science like the spread of the thinking that we are born from monkeys. Islamic science like the golden age, Google it!
Hassan mahat
I karbash wahabist salafis daily.
No, that is just basic biology
Villainess
smooth talk on a rainy summer evening
Saxiib there is. Somalis have no place in taking part in the noble prizes because it’s simply not our area to partake in. If you look at the core teaching at western sites you would know that it’s going to go further into a deep dark well. Hell, they’re making it mandatory to learn about homosexuality in elementary schools.There is no Western science, there is just science. Innovation comes from observing and experimenting, there is nothing wrong with that.
yaab
So the nazis seem to love kanaks now
Especially in England and Sweden where Somalis have a bad rep.
“Western science” doesn’t exist. Science is one. It is achieved through rigorous process. Are you afraid of people will learn science and leave the religion?
Wallahi, I hate how they pretend "science" belongs to Westerners. Civilization was first discovered in the Middle-East and the sciences cradled there and in what you might call the "Greater Middle-East" (North-Africa, South Asia and Southern Europe) for thousands of years but did this stop Northern Europeans from taking the teachings of Mesopotamians, Greeks, Egyptians, Desis and so forth and building on them to make modern civilization? No.
Somalis have a real qashin mentality here. Science is merely the study of the natural world. Allah's natural world if you are a believer. Don't give it to the Gaalo and practice it keenly if you want them to stop politically and technologically dominating you.
Villainess
smooth talk on a rainy summer evening
Of course. I’m not saying ban all science. I simply said to be careful especially in this new age
Villainess
smooth talk on a rainy summer evening
You just read my mind. This is the science we need. To explore Allah swt’s lands.
Next time read my post carefully. I said we have much more important things to focus on rather than image and science. And to be careful with gaal teaching.
Hassan mahat
I karbash wahabist salafis daily.
That is the truth. Muslims use to dominate the sciences and mathematics. There is a reason numbers are called Arabic numerals and algorithms came from Greek version of last name of Mohamed al khawrizmi , a Muslim mathematician. Algerbra also.
we have to take this narrative back.
SOMALI GENERAL
VIP
Small correction sxb, Southern Europe has never been considered to be part of "Greater Middle-East" or Asia for obvious reasons. Greece may not be far from Asia, but that still doesn't negate the fact it's still a part of Europe/Western World.
If we go back to Antiquity, the Greeks interacted heavily with Egyptians, Persians, Phoenicians, Libyans e.g for trade; to exchange ideas about the sciences and so forth. However, the Greeks never considered themselves "Asian" which was a term that also encompassed Middle-Easterners[Minus Egypt].
This is rather semantics, abowe. Genetically, the vast majority of Greeks' ancestry is from the Neolithic and Bronze Age Middle-East. Have you seen the Bronze Age Mycenaean samples? They were only like 10-15% Steppe with the rest being identical to the previous Minoans who were basically just a mix between Bronze Age Anatolians and Neolithic Greeks who themselves were just Anatolian farmers from the Middle-East anyway.
Furthermore, pretty much all of the civilizational innovations of Ancient Greece and earlier Minoans have their roots in the Middle-East. Writing, agriculture, monumental architecture, metallurgy... all of the things that made Greece "civilized" came from the Middle-East as did most of Greeks' ancestry to this day. How the Greeks saw themselves beyond this is hardly relevant and, besides, they had more contempt for and less cultural affinity with the "Barbarians" to their north than the MENA groups they were interacting with.
Ancient Greece is very much just an extension of the civilizations of the Middle-East and paved the way for ME civilization to make its way into Europe through Italy and the later Roman empire.
Nobel prizes for scientific achievement is the best thing you can do to represent your people cause you are advancing humanity as a whole and earn worldwide recognition.
It sounds to me like you are afraid of competing.
Villainess
smooth talk on a rainy summer evening
afraid of competing or simply being careful and worrying about other things rather than image? we have a national threat of terrorists and you want us to go on a magazine or receive some puny award? hell, our people don't even have a water system.Nobel prizes for scientific achievement is the best thing you can do to represent your people cause you are advancing humanity as a whole and earn worldwide recognition.
It sounds to me like you are afraid of competing.
priorities first!
Guled111
VIP
Apart from science, I always ask myself why don't we fix the water situation first?afraid of competing or simply being careful and worrying about other things rather than image? we have a national threat of terrorists and you want us to go on a magazine or receive some puny award? hell, our people don't even have a water system.
priorities first!
I mean water is everything right?
Thanks for reminding me
That's a whole lot of speculation that lacks any real evidence. I would not call Ancient Greece an extension of Ancient Near East Civilisation because it arose almost entirely independently.
The Greek alphabet was influenced by the Phoenician alphabet sure but 'influenced" doesn't mean copying, it merely means they were inspired by it.
As for Greek genetics being predominantly middle-eastern I highly doubt that. They may have had some admixture but the majority of Greeks have Indo-European roots, not Semitic roots.
Ancient Greece had lots of contact with the Near-East and a lot of their mythos did come from there, but most of their architectural styles and other cultures aspects like legal and societal structures were all indigenous developments.
Sorry but no. This is flat out truth:
Genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans - PMC
The origins of the Bronze Age Minoan and Mycenaean cultures have puzzled archaeologists for more than a century. We assembled genome-wide data from nineteen ancient individuals, including Minoans from Crete, Mycenaeans from mainland Greece, and ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I'm not going to argue with you on this. Greeks being mostly ME in genetic origins is as factual as the Sun existing. This is common knowledge in the genomics sphere and has been for at least a decade before we even had ancient DNA samples. And it is simply factual as well that Mycenaean Greek civilization was born from Minoan civilization which itself was non-Greek speaking with the Minoans being almost entirely of ancient ME origins: a mixture of Bronze Age Anatolian & Neolithic Greek which itself was of Neolithic ME origins:
Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East - PMC
We report genome-wide ancient DNA from 44 ancient Near Easterners ranging in time between ~12,000-1,400 BCE, from Natufian hunter-gatherers to Bronze Age farmers. We show that the earliest populations of the Near East derived around half their ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
What happened in Greece was not total population replacement when the Indo-European Greek-speakers came to the region but very akin to what happened in other regions like Iran and Anatolia with Iranization and Turkification. A pastoralist group of people came, installed themselves as mostly an elite in the local, settled and civilized society then left behind no more than 10-25% of their DNA and their language as well as cultural influences like their religion. Everything that made Greece civilized was already there before these steppe, Indo-European people came as you can see with the Minoans and I'm afraid you're wrong about the rest like the Phoenician script just influencing the Greek one; it is flatout accepted and demonstrable as a daughter writing script as some simple googling could show you.
Greek civilization is an extension of those in the Middle-East. This is pretty uncontroversial for anyone who knows what they're talking about, abowe. I'm not stating opinions here. Just facts.
Boogie
Islam wins doesnt take Ls Long Live Somalia 🇸🇴
I would agree but u said we have European blood so idkSorry but no. This is flat out truth:
Genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans - PMC
The origins of the Bronze Age Minoan and Mycenaean cultures have puzzled archaeologists for more than a century. We assembled genome-wide data from nineteen ancient individuals, including Minoans from Crete, Mycenaeans from mainland Greece, and ...
I'm not going to argue with you on this. Greeks being mostly ME in genetic origins is as factual as the Sun existing. This is common knowledge in the genomics sphere and has been for at least a decade before we even had ancient DNA samples. And it is simply factual as well that Mycenaean Greek civilization was born from Minoan civilization which itself was non-Greek speaking with the Minoans being almost entirely of ancient ME origins: a mixture of Bronze Age Anatolian & Neolithic Greek which itself was of Neolithic ME origins:
Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East - PMC
We report genome-wide ancient DNA from 44 ancient Near Easterners ranging in time between ~12,000-1,400 BCE, from Natufian hunter-gatherers to Bronze Age farmers. We show that the earliest populations of the Near East derived around half their ...
What happened in Greece was not total population replacement when the Indo-European Greek-speakers came to the region but very akin to what happened in other regions like Iran and Anatolia with Iranization and Turkification. A pastoralist group of people came, installed themselves as mostly an elite in the local, settled and civilized society then left behind no more than 10-25% of their DNA and their language as well as cultural influences like their religion. Everything that made Greece civilized was already there before these steppe, Indo-European people came as you can see with the Minoans and I'm afraid you're wrong about the rest like the Phoenician script just influencing the Greek one; it is flatout accepted and demonstrable as a daughter writing script as some simple googling could show you.
Greek civilization is an extension of those in the Middle-East. This is pretty uncontroversial for anyone who knows what they're talking about, abowe. I'm not stating opinions here. Just facts.
We don't have European blood, little brother. I never said that, only that we share ancient ancestry with Europeans going back to the Neolithic and Mesolithic ages at the latest which is true. There's nothing "European" in Somalis, only ancient MENA.
Boogie
Islam wins doesnt take Ls Long Live Somalia 🇸🇴
Ok thanks I mean greeks live in Mediterranean so it isn't far fetched their ancestry comes from the near east
