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Duchess

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Gays make up only 50% of men. The rest are females. You women have enough rights in our culture. Somali women run the household.

@Barni this is what you're caping for. While you support gay right in Somalia ( and, let's be honest, if such a thing were to happen today only the gay men would benefit from it), the gays don't gaf about women's rights. @AbdiJohnson, like many homosexual men, is a misogynist. He thinks Somali women have "enough rights" because he is threatened by us. He talks about "human rights" but apparently Somali women don't matter. He convinently blinds himself to the constant abuse they face in the form of FGM, domestic abuse and rape. He supports their oppression. He doesn't want Somali women to be given fair representation in politics. His ilk want you to put gay rights ahead of women's rights. Don't fall for the trap, sistergirl.
 
You think human rights should be at the bottom?

Spoken like a true African/third world Easterner.

Your community feel as if they are number 1 priority, whilst people are dying of various problems around the world. Your sexual orientation is your problem, if you choose to be homosexual then that's your problem, but don't expect to get laws to protect you.
 

BebsiBolice

Suicidal men adore me.
@Barni this is what you're caping for. While you support gay right in Somalia ( and, let's be honest, if such a thing were to happen today only the gay men would benefit from it), the gays don't gaf about women's rights. @AbdiJohnson, like many homosexual men, is a misogynist. He thinks Somali women have "enough rights" because he is threatened by us. He talks about "human rights" but apparently Somali women don't matter. He convinently blinds himself to the constant abuse they face in the form of FGM, domestic abuse and rape. He supports their oppression. He doesn't want Somali women to be given fair representation in politics. His ilk want you to put gay rights ahead of women's rights. Don't fall for the trap, sistergirl.

I'm well aware of misogyny being rooted in gay culture. I'm well aware of the sexism and homophobia lesbian women face. I'm not blind to it. I'll gladly make a thread about it so we can discuss it. However that doesn't stop me from supporting Gay rights. I am against gay marriage tho, doesn't make sense to me why gay men want to join a union connected to the oppression of women.

Women's right are closer to me and much more important. I think we all can agree on that. And I'm pretty sure I've already shown my stance. Doesn't matter what Abdi wants or feels really. Somali woman will get their rights. Somalia will never function without Somali women.

I made this thread more in a sense of hurting the ultra religious peoples feelings.
 

BebsiBolice

Suicidal men adore me.
Gays make up only 50% of men. The rest are females. You women have enough rights in our culture. Somali women run the household.
Abdi stop! You can make a point without posting false facts. Somali women do not have enough rights in our culture. Perhaps compared to Middle Eastern and East Asian culture. But even when compared to them we have a lot of problems and we rarley discuss these issues. When we discuss problems in Somalia we usually only discuss qabil.

We have a lot of obstacles to clear out.
FGM
Sexism
Rape and rape culture
Political Representation
Abuse
Work
Education
Clan structure being dangerous to women.


Somali women have taken the most abuse ever since the war broke out.
 

Duchess

HRH Duchess of Puntland, The Viscount of Garoowe
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I'm well aware of misogyny being rooted in gay culture. I'm well aware of the sexism and homophobia lesbian women face. I'm not blind to it. I'll gladly make a thread about it so we can discuss it. However that doesn't stop me from supporting Gay rights. I am against gay marriage tho, doesn't make sense to me why gay men want to join a union connected to the oppression of women.

Women's right are closer to me and much more important. I think we all can agree on that. And I'm pretty sure I've already shown my stance. Doesn't matter what Abdi wants or feels really. Somali woman will get their rights. Somalia will never function without Somali women.

I made this thread more in a sense of hurting the ultra religious peoples feelings.

Why do you oppose gay marriage but support gay rights?

The ultra religious were making those gay rumors up because the actual legislation was in favor of women. Gay men in Somalia have nothing to worry about.


Have you ever heard of the government executing a man for being gay? But I'm pretty sure you've heard of the numerous cases of women being raped by police or the military and then being sentenced to jail by the government for 'lying'. The reality is, speaking out about rape in Somalia is much more dangerous than being a homosexual.
 

BebsiBolice

Suicidal men adore me.
Why do you oppose gay marriage but support gay rights?

The ultra religious were making those gay rumors up because the actual legislation was in favor of women. Gay men in Somalia have nothing to worry about.


Have you ever heard of the government executing a man for being gay? But I'm pretty sure you've heard of the numerous cases of women being raped by police or the military and then being sentenced to jail by the government for 'lying'. The reality is, speaking out about rape in Somalia is much more dangerous than being a homosexual.

Yes. I've read a horrible story of a young girl being raped in the bus she then failed a complain was put in jail and raped by police officers. We as a community/Country need to put more focus on the safety of our girls and women.

Somali rape culture has even found it's way in the diaspora. Where people still blame the woman.

I think gay rights are human right and it's essential. No one should be prosecuted for something they can't control. Making it legal to be gay and perhaps an anti-discrimination act. However marriage, while I still believe in it, was created as a form to control the woman. Father sells of his daughter to a new man, daughter is never free. Marriage is a strange union, when you break it down you'll soon realize it's built on sustaining misogyny so I don't understand why gay men would crave something like that.
 

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Yes. I've read a horrible story of a young girl being raped in the bus she then failed a complain was put in jail and raped by police officers. We as a community/Country need to put more focus on the safety of our girls and women.

Somali rape culture has even found it's way in the diaspora. Where people still blame the woman.

I think gay rights are human right and it's essential. No one should be prosecuted for something they can't control. Making it legal to be gay and perhaps an anti-discrimination act. However marriage, while I still believe in it, was created as a form to control the woman. Father sells of his daughter to a new man, daughter is never free. Marriage is a strange union, when you break it down you'll soon realize it's built on sustaining misogyny so I don't understand why gay men would crave something like that.
War aniga Ma walaan miise caden ba laga heesaya :oh6b81q:

The enemies of Allah plot & plan, Allah also plans & Allah is the best of planners.
 

Hatredfree

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Figment imagination is privilege. Don't abuse it. Lmfao No such as gay right was enacted in Somalia, and it never will. :lol:
 

Abdalla

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Human rights and other democratic nonsense only slows down the development and the decision making process. Nobody discussed human rights during the industrial revolution, we are even not at the level of Europe during the industrial revolution.

People die of thirst and drought but at least gays can marry :ayaanswag:
 
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