What civilizations did Somalia had?

[xalimathe6]

That were exclusively Somali? They had British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland. Not as the rulers but as subjects. There were also petty clan confederations that liked to title themselves as kingdoms. Avoid wikipedia for Somali history. Delusional boasting Somalis have sabotaged it so severely over the years with pretty much nobody bothering to fact check that it's massively overblown and very often fabrications. Mohammed Abdullah Hassan had a nice Somali state for a while and was admirable.

Do you have any links that talk about Somali civilizations?

 

[Idil-Beydaan]

The title is grammatically incorrect

 

[Idil-Beydaan]

Do you have any links that talk about Somali civilizations?

Excellent book:https://books.google.co.uk/books/ab...rn_of_Africa.html?id=k3QwAQAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y

 

[xalimathe6]

The title is grammatically incorrect

Yeah I know. I meant *have.

 

[xalimathe6]

Excellent book:https://books.google.co.uk/books/ab...rn_of_Africa.html?id=k3QwAQAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y

Yay! Thank you abaayo

 

[Idil-Beydaan]

Yay! Thank you abaayo

Here is the author. I think he is also behind the 'Parching Winds' a good concise documentary on the History of Somalia

 

[Kafir]

Do you have any links that talk about Somali civilizations?

"The Arab factor in Somali history" Published by University of Los Angeles and written by a Somali in the 70s. Some of the stuff is outdated like on Punt but the author goes into detail about Somali's precolonial history and it's still a good source. It's available in PDF form online if you google it. Some of the sources he cites are themselves useful for anyone wanting to investigate Somali history.

There was a book published called the Cambridge History of Africa volume 3 which talks about pre Colonial Somali history among other things. It isn't as detailed as the first source but it's a good read. I found it through torrenting.

If you still have access to your university/college's library you can access a bunch of Somali history articles on Jstor.

For more recent stuff like in the 1800s there's a book called First footsteps in East Africa or, An Exploration of Harar by Richard Burton

http://burtoniana.org/books/1856-First Footsteps in East Africa/1856-FirstFootstepsVer2.htm

The unknown horn of Africa by James, F. L. (Frank Linsly) 1851-1890
https://archive.org/details/unknownhornafri00thrugoog

The Mad Mullah Of Somaliland by Douglas Jardine
https://archive.org/stream/TheMadMu...he_Madmullah_Of_Somaliland_1916_1921_djvu.txt

 

[Grant]

Macrobia Kingdom

In the classical era, the Macrobians, who were direct ancestors of Somalis, established a powerful tribal kingdom that ruled large parts of modern Somalia. They were reputed for their longevity and wealth, and were said to be the "tallest and handsomest of all men".[26] The Macrobians were warrior herders and seafarers. According to Herodotus' account, the Persian Emperor Cambyses II, upon his conquest of Egypt (525 BC), sent ambassadors to Macrobia, bringing luxury gifts for the Macrobian king to entice his submission. The Macrobian ruler, who was elected based on his stature and beauty, replied instead with a challenge for his Persian counterpart in the form of an unstrung bow: if the Persians could manage to draw it, they would have the right to invade his country; but until then, they should thank the gods that the Macrobians never decided to invade their empire.[26][27] The Macrobians were a regional power that were known from east to west and were highly advanced in architecture and extremely known for their wealth were they were noted for its gold, which was so plentiful that the Macrobians shackled their prisoners in golden chains.[27]

Total BS. The Macrobians were not Somalis. Herodotus said the Macrobians lived on the Atlantic as far west as you could get, opposite to the Red Sea, beyond the western Sahara, south of the Pillars of Hercules and the Atlas mountains.

http://walkwithmetowardsgod.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-macrobians.html

"The Macrobians, meaning long-lived, were a legendary tribe of Aethiopia, a kingdom positioned in the land towards the Western Sunset at the ends of the earth in ancient Libya (Africa).
In the inhabited world according to Herodotus, Libya (Africa) is imagined as extending no further south than the Horn of Africa, terminating in uninhabitable desert. The Macrobians dwelt geographically along the sea South of Libya on the Atlantic opposite of the Erythraean sea to the East of them. South of the Pillars of Hercules and Atlas Mountains, at the extreme South-East of the continent, were the Macrobians while the Libyans along the Mediterranean Sea were indigenous to Northern Libya. All peoples inhabiting the southern most fringes of the inhabitable world were known as Ethiopians (after their black skin).
Macrobians were known for their longevity and height. An average person was suppose to live to the age of 120. They were said to be the tallest and handsomest of all men. At the same time, they were reported as being physically distinct from the rest of mankind.
Herodotus' account says that the Persian Emperor Cambyses II upon his conquest of Egypt (525 BC) sent ambassadors to Macrobia, bringing luxury gifts for the Macrobian king to entice his submission. The Macrobian ruler, who was elected based on his stature and beauty, replied instead with a challenge for his Persian counterpart in the form of an unstrung bow: if the Persians could manage to draw it, they would have the right to invade his country; but until then, they should thank the gods that the Macrobians never decided to invade their empire.
Later on according to sources Canaanite Phoenician tribes who left their homeland of Canaan and sailed West of the Mediterranean Sea also settled along the Atlantic coast of Africa, after they were driven out of their homeland by invading Hebrew Israelite tribes under Moses, Joshua and David.
Both Xenophon and Herodotus makes it known that during their time, Asia was ruled by the Persians in the East, Europe ruled by the Scythians in the North, Northern Libya ruled by the Carthaginians and Southern Lybia ruled by the Macrobian Ethiopians in the West.
When Herodotus described the Eastern, Southern and Western (Asia, Arabia, Libya) ends of the inhabited Earth, he made it known that the Macrobians dwelt the farthest towards the sunset (west) of the Southern Nile River beyond the Western Sahara. Herodotus also made it known that only 2 tribes accomplished this long journey from the Nile River to the Western Ends of the earth beyond the vast desert Sahara, these 2 tribes were known as the Libyan Nasamones, who spoke an alien language to the inhabitants, and the Ichthyophagi of Elefantine, who spoke the same language as the inhabitants, but Cambyses with his huge army failed to accomplish what the Nasamones and the Ichthyophagi had already completed. Cambyses, after being insulted by the tallest and long-lived Macrobian Ethiopian King of the West, he eagerly wanted to conquest and subdue all people of Amun and destroy all temples of the god, but failed in his desperate attempt. And although Cambyses had departed from Susa to invade and conquer the land of Egypt by crossing the Sinai desert and afterwards departing from Egypt to reach the deep Southern realms of Meroe, he was still far away from the land of the Macrobians, who dwelt beyond the vast Sahara desert at the ends of the earth as far as the Ocean towards the Western Sunset.
According to Herodotus, the Macrobians practiced an elaborate form of embalming. They preserved the dead bodies by first extracting moisture from the corpses, then overlaying the bodies with a type of plaster, and finally decorating the exterior in vivid colors in order to imitate the deceased as realistically as possible. Then they placed the body in a hollow crystal pillar, which they kept in their homes for a period of a year. Macrobia was also noted for its gold, which was so plentiful that the Macrobians shackled their prisioners in golden chains."

 

[7even]

Somali history isn't all that besides the whole "never being enslaved" shit

 

[Grant]

Land of Punt, also known as the Punt Kingdom located in modern day of northern Somalia where it's Somalis ancestral homeland and where Somalis are proven to be the direct decedents of ancient Puntites.

Would love to see this "proof". All the evidence I am aware of points to Gash.

http://www.ancientsudan.org/history_17_punt.html

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0ahUKEwiF0qORtsnaAhXKsVQKHfdfAWMQFgg7MAM&url=https://books.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/propylaeum/reader/download/194/194-30-76518-1-10-20170113.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0M64N8rsx4x5dOGFMgZpLh

Abdi,

This is not being anti-Somali. It is being pro-evidence. You make lots of claims for which you provide absolutely no actual proof.