What should Somalia do to become a developed country?

[La Xawla]

Yes, but it’s like the states every state have their own budget, plans and so on.

Federalism

 

[La Xawla]

Revive this thread, I want to hear more people

 

[La Xawla]

They need tips from Ethiopia no offense to them. Don't quite understand how a country of one language and religion and when Pan-Somalism was taking root falls apart and stays that way until now. You Awdal-land, Somaliland, that Khatumo cluster-f*ck, Puntland, Al-Shabaab territories, regions that say f*ck off to both the federal government and Al-Shabaab lol, and Jubaland.

Meanwhile Ethiopia's got a Yugoslavia situation with all its different peoples but was able to placate everyone with federal states.

That cold war flip really fucked over Somalia in favor of Ethiopia. Wonder what would have happened if it was the other way around.

We would still be the strongest African country (militarily) All countries would give us our well earned respect or get stomped. We could have been a major powerhouse in Africa like Ethiopia is now.

 

[GBTarmy]

Balkanize the country once for all

 

[AarLibaax]

Yes, but it’s like the states every state have their own budget, plans and so on.

This is not necessarily a bad thing. Federal states should fulfil their Federal mandate first, but also have individual state taxes that would allow them to invest locally.

 

[La Xawla]

Balkanize the country once for all

Why is Puntland starting to sound like Somaliland?

 

[GBTarmy]

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Why is Puntland starting to sound like Somaliland?

I dont represent all of puntland but myself, lets face it somalis dont want to live together its simple we should go our different paths and maybe unite once we're more advanced and smarter.

 

[EDsomali]

Federalism

Tribal federalism won't work. Somalis need a youth revolution.

 

[La Xawla]

Tribal federalism won't work. Somalis need a youth revolution.

Revived SYL

 

[La Xawla]

I dont represent all of puntland but myself, lets face it somalis dont want to live together its simple we should go our different paths and maybe unite once we're more advanced and smarter.

It’s a one generation thing. Let the old people die out. They carry too much baggage. Destroyed the entire country over who gets to be top dog. Inshallah we will move past that

 

[EDsomali]

What i would do to make Somalia prosper is this.

1- Abandon this stupid 4.5 system and this clan federalism , dissolve parliament and re-write the constitution.
2- Ban all warlords , corrupt officials and tribalist from running in any government whether it be local or federal.
3- A new federal government that would be elected by the people through elections and would have to go through tests to make sure they are capable of the role they would be taken . For example, if someone was to be chosen for the role of finance minster , they would have to have some high level form of education regarding public finance, I think the minimum should be a masters/Phd in economics or public finance or something that related to the role of finance minster. They would also have to go through tests relating to Somali history and the history of Somali governance and advance level tests relating to the field they would be taking in government to make sure those with fraudulent degrees could not take these positions. They also should appear before a group of MPs who would further question their stability for the role they were undertaking. This is is extended for the president and the prime minster as well. As for regular MPs , they should at least have a bachelors degree and pass the tests relating to Somali history and governance.
4- Adopt a new federalism model that focus on local governance so that people can improve their own small communities without relying on the federal government government. Federal states should be split along tribal lines but this would be different from the federalism we have now. They would have far less power , they would be unable to have armies , unable to engage in foreign affairs , their role would be to serve their local federal state nothing else. The elected federal government would tell them what to do , for example reduce child morality and they would do just that nothing more nothing less.
5- Create an independent corruption department , completely independent from local and federal government with the sole purpose on reducing corruption. They would enjoy special powers such as tracking officals spending , the ability to search homes etc. They would have a close relationship with the local and federal police forces to make sure corruption was zero.
6- Train a new multi-tribal armed forced which would be equally split between tribes so that one tribe does not have more member than another.
7- Tell Al-shabaab to either have peace talks and abandon their terrorist ways or be destroyed. The government should make concessions and promise they won't be tried or put in jail and once al shabaab surrenders and the government gains the power then arrest all ex shabaabs leaders and members and jail them. Their crimes will never be forgotten.
8- Set up a civil war tribunal with the purpose of finding those responsible of committing atrocities during the civil war and try them. For example general morgan , mahdi etc holding them accountable for their actions. The federal government should also take responsibility for the actions of the kacaan government and offer reparations to the victims of the actions committed by the government. They should also offer apologies , an apology goes a long way.

There is a whole lot more i can think of but i don't want to write an essay so here are just some of the things that should happen. Sry for the typos.

 

[La Xawla]

What i would do to make Somalia prosper is this.

1- Abandon this stupid 4.5 system and this clan federalism , dissolve parliament and re-write the constitution.
2- Ban all warlords , corrupt officials and tribalist from running in any government whether it be local or federal.
3- A new federal government that would be elected by the people through elections and would have to go through tests to make sure they are capable of the role they would be taken . For example, if someone was to be chosen for the role of finance minster , they would have to have some high level form of education regarding public finance, I think the minimum should be a masters/Phd in economics or public finance or something that related to the role of finance minster. They would also have to go through tests relating to Somali history and the history of Somali governance and advance level tests relating to the field they would be taking in government to make sure those with fraudulent degrees could not take these positions. They also should appear before a group of MPs who would further question their stability for the role they were undertaking. This is is extended for the president and the prime minster as well. As for regular MPs , they should at least have a bachelors degree and pass the tests relating to Somali history and governance.
4- Adopt a new federalism model that focus on local governance so that people can improve their own small communities without relying on the federal government government. Federal states should be split along tribal lines but this would be different from the federalism we have now. They would have far less power , they would be unable to have armies , unable to engage in foreign affairs , their role would be to serve their local federal state nothing else. The elected federal government would tell them what to do , for example reduce child morality and they would do just that nothing more nothing less.
5- Create an independent corruption department , completely independent from local and federal government with the sole purpose on reducing corruption. They would enjoy special powers such as tracking officals spending , the ability to search homes etc. They would have a close relationship with the local and federal police forces to make sure corruption was zero.
6- Train a new multi-tribal armed forced which would be equally split between tribes so that one tribe does not have more member than another.
7- Tell Al-shabaab to either have peace talks and abandon their terrorist ways or be destroyed. The government should make concessions and promise they won't be tried or put in jail and once al shabaab surrenders and the government gains the power then arrest all ex shabaabs leaders and members and jail them. Their crimes will never be forgotten.
8- Set up a civil war tribunal with the purpose of finding those responsible of committing atrocities during the civil war and try them. For example general morgan , mahdi etc holding them accountable for their actions. The federal government should also take responsibility for the actions of the kacaan government and offer reparations to the victims of the actions committed by the government. They should also offer apologies , an apology goes a long way.

There is a whole lot more i can think of but i don't want to write an essay so here are just some of the things that should happen. Sry for the typos.

How would you go about achieving these difficult tasks?

 

[EDsomali]

How would you go about achieving these difficult tasks?

Unfortunately I don't know right now but i know the current situation within Somalia and across Somaliweyn in general is not sustainable.