What's the obsession with black people particularly black women?

[Garaad Awal]

I percent agree with u. I used to think the other groups looked down on black people but how can u copy the same group u look down on?? Thts not how it works. All the way to no english speaking South korea they copy black americans and their entire music is based on it. All over the world the talk and act like them. Even people who talk shit about black lives matter....guess wht they copy it and put their country on it lol "mexican lives matter" and so many others. The problem is since we dont have power people act like envy cant happen.

Are you Black American?

 

[idc]

You know what just f*ck off im done arguing with ur sellout ass. The struggle isn’t the culture but it’s a part of the culture the way we get discriminated and singled out for our skin everyday is a part of our life for a lot of us it made us the people we are. In neighborhoods like mine you’ll see black people everywhere and the culture thriving black shops businesses community centres and more it’s our home that’s why we glorify it.

sellout? how is bragging about the media representation of madow men something to envy? why would anyone be proud of being seen as thugs or criminals? don’t you think this contributes to racism, as if america doesn’t use the media for that exact purpose? and it’s not even out of choice. many rappers don’t come from the "struggle". if they had the option to do something else, they would. same with female pop stars who sell a vulgar image yet claim to be empowered, but everything they do is controlled by men and made to pander to a male audience. neither one owns their image or has full control.

 

[caanoshaah]

Don’t let it affect you tf at the end of the day all that matters is that you as an individual get it together and you have it good … cuz maybe this is my personal experience but despite all that I hear about this “black women are like xyz” shit, I have NEVER had that shit projected onto me. I’m sorry, but because I carry myself good and well, apparently I’m cute don’t take it from me tho this is just what I have been told.

Now the reason I think this is relevant is because my personal experience has me feeling like this lady on this podcast knows she’s talking bs but she is trying to subtly boast to the men she’s talking to… but notice how the men weren’t even taking it these mfs straight up interrupted her saying “it doesn’t make sense at all”, cuz it DONT, but it doesn’t matter to this indhayar girl cuz all she’s trying to do is throw black girls under the bus so she can insinuate that she’s tight I’m telling yall I have seen this behaviour time and time again, I can go on but yall get the point. Don’t give this *** any more attention trust me

 

[Midas]

I'm sorry my guy but in the real world it's not black culture that's appreciated. It's black American culutre spefically . Appreciation of pop culutre also doesn't mean anything. I mean look at how many people watch bollywood all over the middle east. Yet look at how indians are seen in the middle east ? Combine this with the fact that there isn't a single semi developed black african country or some mega ancient african civilization (I'm talking something on the scale of india,China or the "west ")

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[Lightshow]

It is pure jealousy no group gets copied more then black people rich ass mansion white kids go to great lengths to emulate their favourite rapper copying how they dress and talk they even act like they grew up poor in govt housing jus to be like us. Hell motherfuckers all the way in India or Thailand are spitting bars rappin trying to be like us.

Their women love our dark skin our physique our hair the way we talk our personalities and our unique features. This is a tale as old as time an outsider is taking your women and you feel threatened so you lash out on them because it’s you that is supposed to be reproducing with them. This primal urge is embedded in us to react this way since cavemen times. Only difference is they use propaganda and stats to attack us now instead of weapons.

c00ns like you that go against ur people are one of the ones that didn’t inherit the sauce you have the aura of a white man just awkward and no game at all that’s why you hate us cause you’re jealous just like the rest of the world. Keep sucking off the foreigners if you want but ur just a nerd ass nigha that hates himself to me.

I promise you, it has nothing to do with 'jealousy". If there is hate against "black" people, it is due to stereotypes and forced superiority complex.

People generally like to feel good about themselves. Those less consciously evolved will often see the world in simple hierarchical structures. In their mind "black" represents the lowest level of humanity. Blackness is savage, lazy, ugly, intellectually inferior and least evolved in their minds.

The best way to deal with this, is to know that these projections do not have to be your reality, nor are they true. But proclaiming swagger and sex appeal do not help your case, but rather aggravate it. Unfortunately many "blacks" inadvertently do everything in their power to keep the stereotypes alive.

 

[Taintedlove]

do you realise how offensive you’re being? you’re reducing someone else’s culture to the "ghetto experience" just because you grew up in poverty. plenty of somalis come from refugee backgrounds and face similar struggles, but that’s not considered our culture.

Where did he do that?

 

[Nilotic]

The unenviable state of Africa is precisely why the narrative about inherent black inferiority is kept alive -- and the continent hasn't done anything to rebut this in material terms.

 

[Idilinaa]

I'm sorry my guy but in the real world it's not black culture that's appreciated. It's black American culutre spefically . Appreciation of pop culutre also doesn't mean anything.

Their culture is "Appreciated" but Not Respected. It’s commodified, not truly valued. It generates wealth for others, not the people who create it. It reinforces negative stereotypes, poverty, crime, hyper-consumerism.

True cultural power comes from economic and intellectual influence, not just entertainment.

Japan, China, and Germany are respected because they control their industries, not because of pop culture. If a culture is controlled by outsiders, it becomes a tool for exploitation rather than empowerment.

Black American culture is actually is just them seeking comfort in poverty and lack of education, that comes from the ghetto's that white people drove them into. You can see it in the way they speak Ebonics, it really isn't a cultural vernacular it's just lack of education bringing down their speech, no different from the uneducated rural rednecks in the south. Then you can also look at the sports that dominate like Basketball instead of Tennis or Golf for example which shows low income vs middle-high income sports because the financial entry bar requirements are too high for them.

The hyper consumerism or "swag" comes from them trying surround themselves with symbols of wealth and validation that they feel to have been deprived off. They end up buying stuff but rarely owning or producing anything so wealth keeps escaping.

They also embrace the hyper-criminalization and sexualisation and re-package it as something hip or cool. When they are in reality mass exploited and denied humanity in the process. Both actual generates big revenues for industries controlled by white people, even for-profit jails. It makes them seen as both threatening and alluring by the wider society.

 

[Idilinaa]

I mean look at how many people watch bollywood all over the middle east. Yet look at how indians are seen in the middle east ? Combine this with the fact that there isn't a single semi developed black african country or some mega ancient african civilization (I'm talking something on the scale of india,China or the "west ")

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I believe Indians are viewed in that particular way because they immigrate to the Middle East to fill lower roles and low wage labour, take on work like labourers, house cleaners, street vendors, maids they are basically recruited into modern slavery like conditions in what is called Kafala system.

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Their treatment and perception is directly correlated to that. People judge a group based on their economic contribution and social role. Workers in low-status jobs are treated poorly, regardless of nationality. Those who control capital, industry, and investment earn respect.


I also actually talked about it a bit using Nigerian, Ethiopians, Sudanese in Arab countries and compared the latter with Somalis. Somalis in Egypt, the UAE, and other Arab countries run businesses, work in finance, and are investors. Instead of being maids or laborers, they work in money transfer companies, service industries, and entrepreneurship. Somalis stick together, reinvest in their own people, and control their economic networks.

@Fobnimo Till I Dhimo
This Nigerian complaining about the bad treatment in Lebanon vs the good treatment Lebanese get in their country. If you come to a country filling roles such as maids, house cleaners , street vendors etc or beg the way Nigerians do in Lebanon, people will have lower impression of you and as a result it will translate to the poor treatment.
In contrast to when Lebanese come to you country as business people operating businesses and educated people.

Somalis are an instructive case.
Look at this study on African Refugees in Egypt another Arab country, it doesn't pertain to Lebanon cause there like 30 of us there but is shows you the difference between Somalis and other Africans.

https://fic.tufts.edu/wp-content/uploads/TuftsRITReportCairo.pdf

There is a clear separation shown between Somalis and Southern Sudanese roles. Somalis mostly work in the money transfer business, operate and run their own small scale businesses where they employ their own and also work as tutors and instructors.

Whereas Sudanese are more inclined to work as laborers, street vendors, maids, home cleaners and even beggars hardly staying afloat etc

Cairo’s refugees are not legally allowed to work, so they work in the informal sector—as do most low-income Egyptians. In Jacobsen’s 2012 study, nearly 70% of the 565 surveyed Sudanese households reported working in casual day labor as their primary livelihood. Some of the most common jobs were housecleaners, street vendors, factory workers, henna drawing / perfume making, and security guards (Jacobsen et al., 2012, p. 29- 30). Similarly at RAO, our clients worked informally on a piecemeal basis—women as housecleaners, men as street vendors, security guards or doing odd jobs.21

Somali men are less likely than Sudanese to work in street vending. Some Somali men work for hawala money transfer companies, or in the service industry as waiters in restaurants and cafes (Abdel Aziz, 2017, p. 28). More educated individuals work as tutors for the children of Somali families returning from the United States, Europe, and Canada.22

Even with some income, life is a struggle with low pay and long hours for most refugees. Jacobsen’s study found that the income of Sudanese respondents “seldom yielded enoughfor subsistence and many [were] barely above the level of begging.” Their struggles are further complicated by the high number of people in each household relative to income earners (i.e. the dependency ratio). In the study, 20% of households had four dependents supported by

Here, there are five Somali cafes each employing three to six Somalis, three tailors each
employing two to three Somalis, a small grocery store, a barber shop, and a community center. The cafes are furnished with plastic tables and chairs surrounding a television for watching soccer or Somali news stations. One Somali observer said Somali business owners did not receive financial assistance from the humanitarian system but used money earned working in the Somali hawala system and invested in starting small businesses

They don't see that the roles they occupy directly relates to how they are treated and seen.

Another example is Somalis in the UAE, compare the roles we occupy there compared to Ethiopians/Sudanese/Africans and South Asians. And it follows a historical and cultural pattern btw.