Where do coloured eyes in horn Africans come from?

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Although it’s pretty rare I’ve noticed that a lot of horners have coloured eyes. My old somali neighbour had green eyes and I’ve seen a lot of habeshas with hazel/blue eyes too. For context

Habeshas:
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Somalis:
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Is there any way europeans may have gotten to the horn and transported it?
 

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Although it’s pretty rare I’ve noticed that a lot of horners have coloured eyes. My old somali neighbour had green eyes and I’ve seen a lot of habeshas with hazel/blue eyes too. For context

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Somalis:View attachment 196428View attachment 196429View attachment 196430View attachment 196431

Is there any way europeans may have gotten to the horn and transported it?

@Apollo (and other genetics people)
middle eastern also have really small percentage of light colored eyes, it's more common among berbers.
Horners with light eyes probably show their ancient eurasian admixture but it rarely comes out in our phenotypes. There's no European in us so it's not from them.
You should keep in mind that light colored eyes are from recessive genes which makes it less common even among whites
 

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middle eastern also have really small percentage of light colored eyes, it's more common among berbers.
Horners with light eyes probably show their ancient eurasian admixture but it rarely comes out in our phenotypes. There's no European in us so it's not from them.
You should keep in mind that light colored eyes are from recessive genes which makes it less common even among whites
Only some levantines and iraqis and a few east coast khaleejis of shirazi origin have coloured eyes in the Middle East. This is all due to European heritage mainly from crusaders and certain assimilated pre arab groups that share more with Europeans. Even with berbers coloured eyes is concentrated along the coast where a lot of historical Mediterranean trade took place and foreign empires. Most algerians with blue eyes are from kabilye which had an entire Germanic kingdom under the vandals based on it whos remnants after defeated assimilated into the local Berber tribes. What confuses me is that horn Africans have no such encounters with any group that had coloured eyes. The Arabs we come into contact with (yemenis and omanis) hardly ever have coloured eyes and other than Arabs the only other foreign bloodline we may have is bantu and south Asian, neither typically have coloured eyes.
 
The Habesha have it because they're not really African. They're Semitic people who mixed with the natives. The came in, and made Abyssinia, replacing the Cushite natives.

In fact, the real Ethiopia is Sudan. But y'all ain't ready for that conversation.
 

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The Habesha have it because they're not really African. They're Semitic people who mixed with the natives. The came in, and made Abyssinia, replacing the Cushite natives.

In fact, the real Ethiopia is Sudan. But y'all ain't ready for that conversation.
You got an explanation for the Somali ones then:birdman:
 

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Almost every Somali elder have these grey looking eyes. It's some sort of disease/disorder, forgot what it's called.
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You got an explanation for the Somali ones then:birdman:
Somalis are essentially a very ancient mix. I'm talking before Arabs even existed.

A people related to groups like the Natufians were pastoralists in the Sahara. The Sahara at the time was green, not a desert. This is known as the African Humid Period.

I believe our ancestors moved south because of desertification about 5000-7000 years ago. We then mixed with an ancient Nilo-Saharan population, and that formed the Cushites.

Eastern Cushites then moved to the Horn of Africa, and displaced the Khoi-San hunter gatherers that were there originally. This group made the Land of Punt.

Somalis specifically split off from the rest of the Eastern Cushites and formed their own identity. These were the Macrobians, who were proto-Somalis.

The kingdom split up, and city states formed.

At this point Islam began, and that's when we converted to Islam, made up fake Arab ancestors to control the masses, made Sultanates and you know the rest at that point.
 
Although it’s pretty rare I’ve noticed that a lot of horners have coloured eyes. My old somali neighbour had green eyes and I’ve seen a lot of habeshas with hazel/blue eyes too. For context

Habeshas:View attachment 196425View attachment 196426View attachment 196427View attachment 196432

Somalis:View attachment 196428View attachment 196429View attachment 196430View attachment 196431

Is there any way europeans may have gotten to the horn and transported it?

@Apollo (and other genetics people)
Has nothing to do with Europeans lol
 

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Has nothing to do with Europeans lol

who said anything about Europeans?????

the eurasian part of our ancestery comes from .... well do you own research that way you might remember it in the future hahaha.
on a more serious note those people were bad ass. conquerors who fought their way to where we at today. have some respect for our lighter skinned ancestors .
 
who said anything about Europeans?????

the eurasian part of our ancestery comes from .... well do you own research that way you might remember it in the future hahaha.
on a more serious note those people were bad ass. conquerors who fought their way to where we at today. have some respect for our lighter skinned ancestors .
Read the OPs post
 
The Habesha have it because they're not really African. They're Semitic people who mixed with the natives. The came in, and made Abyssinia, replacing the Cushite natives.

In fact, the real Ethiopia is Sudan. But y'all ain't ready for that conversation.

You're one of the few people that know that 'Ethiopia' essentially stole its name from an ancient Greek term that referred to a Sudanese kingdom.


To the ancient Greeks, the ancient Sudanese were known as Aethiopians -> burnt faces, and this was in reference to ancient Sudanese -- not so called 'Ethiopians'.

Ancient Sudan (Aethiopia) is mentioned over 30+ times in the Bible, but it was known to the Aramaic speaking Hebrews as Kush; and when the Bible was translated into Greek from Aramaic, the Greeks used their term (Aethiopia) to refer to this Sudanese kingdom with its capital at Meroe.

Modern day 'Ethiopia' was known by it's own name prior to the advent of Christianity -> Aksum; when it became a Christian State, it changed its name to Ethiopia in the 4th Century in order to associate itself with ancient Aethiopia (Sudan) -- the one mentioned in the Bible.
 
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You're one of the few people that know that 'Ethiopia' essentially stole its name from an ancient Greek term in that referred to a Sudanese kingdom.


To the ancient Greeks, the ancient Sudanese were known as Aethiopians -> burnt faces, and this was in reference to ancient Sudanese -- not so called 'Ethiopians'.

Ancient Sudan (Aethiopia) is mentioned over 30+ times in the Bible, but it was known to the Aramaic speaking Hebrews as Kush; and when the Bible was translated into Greek from Aramaic, the Greeks used their term (Aethiopia) to refer to this Sudanese kingdom with its capital at Meroe.

Modern day 'Ethiopia' was known by it's own name prior to the advent of Christianity -> Aksum; when it became a Christian State, it changed its name to Ethiopia in the 4th Century in order to associate itself with ancient Aethiopia (Sudan) -- the one mentioned in the Bible.
Pretty much. Once I knew this, it changed how I saw a lot of the world around me.
 
You're one of the few people that know that 'Ethiopia' essentially stole its name from an ancient Greek term in that referred to a Sudanese kingdom.


To the ancient Greeks, the ancient Sudanese were known as Aethiopians -> burnt faces, and this was in reference to ancient Sudanese -- not so called 'Ethiopians'.

Ancient Sudan (Aethiopia) is mentioned over 30+ times in the Bible, but it was known to the Aramaic speaking Hebrews as Kush; and when the Bible was translated into Greek from Aramaic, the Greeks used their term (Aethiopia) to refer to this Sudanese kingdom with its capital at Meroe.

Modern day 'Ethiopia' was known by it's own name prior to the advent of Christianity -> Aksum; when it became a Christian State, it changed its name to Ethiopia in the 4th Century in order to associate itself with ancient Aethiopia (Sudan) -- the one mentioned in the Bible.
A lot of Cushite history has been stolen by people who have no business claiming it. It's a little annoying knowing that tbh.
 

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You're one of the few people that know that 'Ethiopia' essentially stole its name from an ancient Greek term in that referred to a Sudanese kingdom.


To the ancient Greeks, the ancient Sudanese were known as Aethiopians -> burnt faces, and this was in reference to ancient Sudanese -- not so called 'Ethiopians'.

Ancient Sudan (Aethiopia) is mentioned over 30+ times in the Bible, but it was known to the Aramaic speaking Hebrews as Kush; and when the Bible was translated into Greek from Aramaic, the Greeks used their term (Aethiopia) to refer to this Sudanese kingdom with its capital at Meroe.

Modern day 'Ethiopia' was known by it's own name prior to the advent of Christianity -> Aksum; when it became a Christian State, it changed its name to Ethiopia in the 4th Century in order to associate itself with ancient Aethiopia (Sudan) -- the one mentioned in the Bible.
Wait this is actually very interesting. Do you have a source that I can read on it? And where in sudan was this Æthopia
 

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Read the OPs post

walaal you did not get it.

it does have something to do with europeans. just not the cad cads for eastern to western europe and not to forget the northern ones.

either you don't understand it at all or you hate cadaans with an passion.
which one of the two is it walaal?
 
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