Who is the Siad of our generation?

CABDULWALI XASAN.

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Whos the next person to fix this country, we all know voting dosent work and that these criminals specialize in looting money and eating good. They dont care, so what I'm asking today is who is the person that will take over and reform the government into something that actually develops the country? Let me clarify this, we wont find a good candidate by voting. There are no very strong military leaders either, so who will it be. Can someone share some people, and dont say kheyre please just another criminal.
 
Whos the next person to fix this country, we all know voting dosent work and that these criminals specialize in looting money and eating good. They dont care, so what I'm asking today is who is the person that will take over and reform the government into something that actually develops the country? Let me clarify this, we wont find a good candidate by voting. There are no very strong military leaders either, so who will it be. Can someone share some people, and dont say kheyre please just another criminal.
Our opinions are irrelevant. Prepare for Kheyre presidency whether you like it or not.
 

FBIsomalia

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Whos the next person to fix this country, we all know voting dosent work and that these criminals specialize in looting money and eating good. They dont care, so what I'm asking today is who is the person that will take over and reform the government into something that actually develops the country? Let me clarify this, we wont find a good candidate by voting. There are no very strong military leaders either, so who will it be. Can someone share some people, and dont say kheyre please just another criminal.
Deni
 

NidarNidar

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Why do you want another dictator? We’ll just have another civil war 20 years after.

No military ones either. All they know is war nothing else. We’ll end up with another 77/88/91
 

Avalanche

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I am the Siad Barre of today, if I ever succeed in taking power I can promise you that I will rule the country with a iron fist. Anyone criticising my rule would be imprisoned and I would invade Socotra and Galbeed. Then NFD and Djibouti if they do not obey the idea of the reunification.
 

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Yeah confirmed stooge/looter, its fine @Step a side Hawiye siads are allowed just not fake democratic garbage no development no nothing. Im tempted to go to the somalia hq and figure out what their doing, if they are even performing ANY of the work. I dotn even think they are capable of writing their fake legislative bills thats probably some cadaan dude chilling in xalane.
 

CABDULWALI XASAN.

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I am the Siad Barre of today, if I ever succeed in taking power I can promise you that I will rule the country with a iron fist. Anyone criticising my rule would be imprisoned and I would invade Socotra and Galbeed. Then NFD and Djibouti if they do not obey the idea of the reunification.
What do you mean invade, first we need a government. then to develop our country, who hurt you. Obviously im tired of this current shit situation we are in no government, no development, no plans no nothing absolutely nothing. and people are to scared by the civil war to complain.
 

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Why do you want another dictator? We’ll just have another civil war 20 years after.

No military ones either. All they know is war nothing else. We’ll end up with another 77/88/91
No no no, they would learn from their mistakes. Not dictator persay but how about an empowering democratic leader that wins every election. Does that make you feel better? but anyways, we would need to develop strong insitituions and so that the government dosent fall ever again. Thats the mistake siad made,

You keep acting like 77 81 was bad but that was the only time we had a functioning real government, that did not survive off of aid and had real plans going for it. Isnt that crazy?
 

Avalanche

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What do you mean invade, first we need a government. then to develop our country, who hurt you. Obviously im tired of this current shit situation we are in no government, no development, no plans no nothing absolutely nothing. and people are to scared by the civil war to complain.
This is of course the last part of the plan. First is to build the country so that we are not left behind.
 
No no no, they would learn from their mistakes. Not dictator persay but how about an empowering democratic leader that wins every election. Does that make you feel better? but anyways, we would need to develop strong insitituions and so that the government dosent fall ever again. Thats the mistake siad made,

You keep acting like 77 81 was bad but that was the only time we had a functioning real government, that did not survive off of aid and had real plans going for it. Isnt that crazy?
I’m sorry but centralisation has never worked in Somalia’s history it’s going to have to take someone truly landheere to change that. To create strong institutions there’s going to have to be some level of federal control and devolving of power.

I think Somalias best bet is probably a massive NATO style pact/reworking of the constitution between tribes. Everyone controls their own lands and FGS controls xamar. Have a tribal council elite Iran-style to have the final say in decisions related to Somalia (economy, justice system, land disputes). I’ll probably make a thread on this soon.

It’s a unique system but Somalia is a unique country.
 

CABDULWALI XASAN.

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I’m sorry but centralisation has never worked in Somalia’s history it’s going to have to take someone truly landheere to change that. To create strong institutions there’s going to have to be some level of federal control and devolving of power.

I think Somalias best bet is probably a massive NATO style pact/reworking of the constitution between tribes. Everyone controls their own lands and FGS controls xamar. Have a tribal council elite Iran-style to have the final say in decisions related to Somalia (economy, justice system, land disputes). I’ll probably make a thread on this soon.

It’s a unique system but Somalia is a unique country.
yes it has worked, and it worked really well. You should research the real reason why somalia fell. Centralization dosent mean there wont be any devolved power but it clearly cannot be the way it is now with states essentially bein their own countries. It has to be on a much much smaller scale. But still major things need to be done by the national government. Military should be national.

your 2nd paragraph is low iq, I dont want to see you ever saying shit like that ever again. NATO lol, shut up bro Dont even make a thread on this idiotic idea. You want to further incorporate qabil into the government, man I cant even speak to you. You clearly are a boy a very naive idiotic one.
 
yes it has worked, and it worked really well. You should research the real reason why somalia fell. Centralization dosent mean there wont be any devolved power but it clearly cannot be the way it is now with states essentially bein their own countries. It has to be on a much much smaller scale. But still major things need to be done by the national government. Military should be national.

your 2nd paragraph is low iq, I dont want to see you ever saying shit like that ever again. NATO lol, shut up bro Dont even make a thread on this idiotic idea. You want to further incorporate qabil into the government, man I cant even speak to you. You clearly are a boy a very naive idiotic one.
1. “NATO style pact” means every somali clan is held under specific rules that they must adhere to. If they don’t follow it be prepared for consequences. Eliminates mooryanism.
2. “Everyone controls their own lands” I trust the people who have been living on their land for centuries to know what it needs best. Look at SL/PL pre-1991 and now. Look at xamar post 2012 when FGS was installed.
3. “Have a tribal council elite” Somalia is fairly evenly divided clan wise so if every tribal elder voted on certain issues no clan would win. This would mean impartiality and whatever the final decision is must be accepted.

I just explained it for you. Live in the present sxb instead of venting look at the state of our country. What have politicians actually done? We’re not even 3rd world it’s worse change needs to come ASAP.

Its better than waiting for a leader to come. We haven’t had a revolutionary since the Sayyid lmfaoooo 100 years ago just wake up and smell the coffee
 

Somali Saayid

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. “Have a tribal council elite” Somalia is fairly evenly divided clan wise so if every tribal elder voted on certain issues no clan would win. This would mean impartiality and whatever the final decision is must be accepted.
They will create voting blocks, whether from clan, economic, regional, or just pure spite. U can bet ur ass a MJ elder and Isaaq elder will be trying to screw the other one over everything same thing with a MX elder n HG and the list goes on
 
They will create voting blocks, whether from clan, economic, regional, or just pure spite. U can bet ur ass a MJ elder and Isaaq elder will be trying to screw the other one over everything same thing with a MX elder n HG and the list goes on
Of course. But voting blocks in Somalia can never create a majority. If Isaaq + MJ elders were conspiring against each other then ultimately it comes down to Hawiye/RX as the final vote. You’d like to think they’d be pretty impartial.

If anything it forces clans to develop good relations with each other to get them onside. Better relations=less tribalism
 
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