Why Al-Shabaab was created?

[repo]

Your very own report says no such thing as independent movement that the ASNE is a concept of their own creation they're still dependent and take orders from the leadership of Al shabaab in south Somalia that's why they attacked Puntland from Galmudug side and fighting the ISIS Salebaan faction in Puntland.
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ASNE still provides logistics and smuggle arms to the main force of Al Shabaab in the south.View attachment 198824
Another proof ASNE are nothing but mere subjects for the big players of Al shabaab who are in the south. So bringing up the commanders or small time members and portray them to be some senior leaders in Al Shabab's top leadership based on qabill origins is ridiculous. I threw facts at your face but if you chose it ignore thats your problem. The top emir is omar Ahmed so take up to him but instead you won't do that because it's easier to point fingers ar low level Isaaq commanders and scream Somaliland is the bogeyman lol

How about you stop adding your own commentary? It says they are in communication. Secondly, it says in that same report that he's an Emir. So why do you have a problem with me saying it?

 

[Daaamn]

Your very own report says no such thing as independent movement that the ASNE is a concept of their own creation they're still dependent and take orders from the leadership of Al shabaab in south Somalia that's why they attacked Puntland from Galmudug side and fighting the ISIS Salebaan faction in Puntland.
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ASNE still provides logistics and smuggle arms to the main force of Al Shabaab in the south.View attachment 198824
Another proof ASNE are nothing but mere subjects for the big players of Al shabaab who are in the south. So bringing up the commanders or small time members and portray them to be some senior leaders in Al Shabab's top leadership based on qabill origins is ridiculous. I threw facts at your face but if you chose it ignore thats your problem. The top emir is omar Ahmed so take up to him but instead you won't do that because it's easier to point fingers ar low level Isaaq commanders and scream Somaliland is the bogeyman lol

isaaq/idoor are hating ass terrorist, Kulahaa they take orders from al-shabaab so their actions are negligible. Everybody knows u qaldan will do anything for ictraaf, so it’s really not a stretch to feel like you have a hand in some of the instability in the south. That’s why Inkaar ad qabtin and cannot never gain independence.

 

[Gantaal97]

isaaq/idoor are hating ass terrorist, Kulahaa they take orders from al-shabaab so their actions are negligible. Everybody knows u qaldan will do anything for ictraaf, so it’s really not a stretch to feel like you have a hand in some of the instability in the south. That’s why Inkaar ad qabtin and cannot never gain independence.

We already are independent mr buuqlander can you president ever visit Hargeisa or Booraama

 

[Daaamn]

We already are independent mr buuqlander can you president ever visit Hargeisa or Booraama

You are dysfunctional idiotic and failures. Waxas wa lagu faano miyaa? Allah ha idin xaafidho

 

[Gantaal97]

You are dysfunctional idiotic and failures. Waxas wa lagu faano miyaa? Allah ha idin xaafidho

Mr faan is you go deal with your terrorist kins we know PL is just a paper state that cant secure its territories from terrorists activities especially since they are settled outside their main economic port and city Bosasso

 

[Bernie Madoff]

How about you stop adding your own commentary? It says they are in communication. Secondly, it says in that same report that he's an Emir. So why do you have a problem with me saying it?

The UN report confuses the use of Emir & commander/leader in the same report it mentions 2 other Emirs of Al Shabab one is Darood the other is Hawiye in the report it says he's Emir, but in the following year's report (from the same source UN) they describe the same person as head (commander).

See in both reports he has been described as both Emir and a commander/leader, so why don't you point him out along with Kiwile is it because they're Darood? lol you reaching hard sxb.


There are many Emir commanders but Al Shabaab top emir recognised as the universal central leader is a Dir. Dir control an entire country called Djibouti why don't you call them out for supporting Al Shabaab? See that's how stupid you sound when you cherry-pick low level Isaaq members of Al Shabaab and portray them as a Somaliland conspiracy theory

 

[Som]

The reason AS cannot attack SL is not because they have a deal but because their community is alot more active and intelligence is your local mama down the street. One thing I admire about Rer SL is they dont let new people just move in there towns without verifying who they are. This is why they have been succesful while Koonfuris would help their own cousin terrorist

That's just BS. SL security forces may be good but they aren't on the same level as more developed african nations like Kenya. it's suspicious they got absolutely zero attacks, it's pretty obvious that AS is avoiding to attack SL and Ethiopia for some reason. If the terrorist wanted they could seriously harm SL just like they do with southern Somalia and Kenya

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Show me a reliable source that shows the makeup of Shabaab and I'll show you that the first, second and a current Emir Shabaab are all Isaaq.

Stick to being cannon fodder, we are speaking among free men.

Inflated ego, inflated currency even your politicians are inflated.
you guy got it all.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

That's just BS. SL security forces may be good but they aren't on the same level as more developed african nations like Kenya. it's suspicious they got absolutely zero attacks, it's pretty obvious that AS is avoiding to attack SL and Ethiopia for some reason. If the terrorist wanted they could seriously harm SL just like they do with southern Somalia and Kenya

This how I know you have no clue what you are talking about. 2008 triple bombing in Hargiesa killing 25 people but security measures has been beefed up ever since

You need to realize this. Somaliland is way less diverse in clans compared to the south where it’s more diverse. People in somaliland all snitch right away you have to get verified like tekkniko mention before so it’s not that hard to believe

 

[Calaf]

The difference is those have spent longer periods on jail and weren't higher ranking or conducted terrorist acts that are known to us but simply charged on being involved on jihadist acts unlike Qaahiye who was an active AS militant and now he is in Mozambique helping ISIS fighters with his experience he attained from Somalia

Speaking to the media Abdirahman Indho who warned of the convicts said he served 25 years behind bars before the Somaliland president pardoned him.

Two others served up to 17 years in prison, while the fifth one served for 3 years and 7 months.

Wow, 25 years? What was he jailed for 25 years (I get involved in Jihadist Acts, but such as what), in a Somali Prison??

 

[Abba Sadacha]

here's an interesting short radio broadcast on it

BBC World Service - Witness History, Somalia's Islamic Courts Union

How the Islamic movement brought a brief moment of peace to Mogadishu after years of war

www.bbc.co.uk

'' A controversial Islamic movement brought a brief moment of peace to Mogadishu in 2006 after years of war. The Islamic Courts Union (ICU) came to power after defeating rapacious American-backed warlords. They had no unified ideology or leadership. Some were moderates, some were hardline Islamists. But they brought law and order to the capital unseen since civil war began in 1991. But their rule would only last for six months and from the ashes would emerge the radical militant group Al-Shabab.''

 

[Bobthebuilder]

That's just BS. SL security forces may be good but they aren't on the same level as more developed african nations like Kenya. it's suspicious they got absolutely zero attacks, it's pretty obvious that AS is avoiding to attack SL and Ethiopia for some reason. If the terrorist wanted they could seriously harm SL just like they do with southern Somalia and Kenya

a professor from Vermont university exposed Somaliland funding AS in the Galgala mountains of Puntland. She got banned from entering SL after she exposed them.

It’s also odd that AS don’t even speak on the fact that Christianity is being openly taught in schools in SL.

 

[reer]

@Gucci mane you mixed up between icu and shabab in 2006 and 2008. 2006 icu captured kismayo from jva. in 2008 shabab and allies captured it from guddiga siyaasadda beesha sade.
in 2006 icu took the city from jva. icu was dominated by hawiye but was still multi clan. they had islamists from different clans.
lower juba governor = madoobe
mayor of kismayo = bashir jarato marehan
https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2006/Oct/wararka_maanta6-105.htm
shabab was different. they were more multi clan and used clan politics for gain. they took in barre hiiraales former amni chief of kismayo fiilow and later made him amni chief themselves. they reigned in and/or swallowed the xisbul islam and clan militias allied to them by 2009. they multiple militias allied to them like:

-ras kamboni og
-xisbul islam
-caanoole mj
-khalid bin walid mx
-defected clan miltias of mx led by future ambassador to oman and qatar

 

[TekNiKo]

That's just BS. SL security forces may be good but they aren't on the same level as more developed african nations like Kenya. it's suspicious they got absolutely zero attacks, it's pretty obvious that AS is avoiding to attack SL and Ethiopia for some reason. If the terrorist wanted they could seriously harm SL just like they do with southern Somalia and Kenya

Nah I been to Hargeisa they are very alert people. Almost too alert, I dont think any terror group has any breathing space to operate there

 

[reer]

Nah I been to Hargeisa they are very alert people. Almost too alert, I dont think any terror group has any breathing space to operate there

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[Som]

Nah I been to Hargeisa they are very alert people. Almost too alert, I dont think any terror group has any breathing space to operate there

Bro thats BS. How is Hargeysa more Allert than Nairobi? Please bro.

 

[Som]

This how I know you have no clue what you are talking about. 2008 triple bombing in Hargiesa killing 25 people but security measures has been beefed up ever since
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You need to realize this. Somaliland is way less diverse in clans compared to the south where it’s more diverse. People in somaliland all snitch right away you have to get verified like tekkniko mention before so it’s not that hard to believe

That's just one attack in many years.
How is that even possible? AS are not even trying that much to attack SL. It's obvious you won't get any attack if the terrorist are focused on attacking somewhere else (Xamar, PL , Kenya etc)

 

[Bernie Madoff]

a professor from Vermont university exposed Somaliland funding AS in the Galgala mountains of Puntland. She got banned from entering SL after she exposed them.
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It’s also odd that AS don’t even speak on the fact that Christianity is being openly taught in schools in SL.

Somaliland: U.S Citizen's Conspiracy puts Frankincense in Peril

Tears of the Somaliland Frankincense Somalilandsun- Dr. Anjanette DeCarlo is Assistant Professor of Environmental Studies at St. Micha

www.menafn.com

This was poorly written article by some random freelance Somali journalist who tried to link somaliland and al shabaab with very weak evidence

 

[Bernie Madoff]

That's just one attack in many years.
How is that even possible? AS are not even trying that much to attack SL. It's obvious you won't get any attack if the terrorist are focused on attacking somewhere else (Xamar, PL , Kenya etc)

You should stop having cuqdad and praise somaliland for being one region who knows how handle security. Try to read this article if you have the comprehension for it

How Somaliland Combats al-Shabaab – Combating Terrorism Center at West Point

Abstract: Al-Shabaab has struggled and largely failed to establish itself in the independent but unrecognized Republic of Somaliland. There, the government has, with limited means, denied al-Shabaab the operational space it requires through the implementation of a virtuous circle that builds on...

www.ctc.usma.edu

this article is from a well known organization that combats terrorismt that praised Somaliland's intelligence agencies and security measures they implemented after 2008 explosion despite the scarce resources they have it surpassed that of Al Shabaab itself. Have a read

 

[Som]

You should stop having cuqdad and praise somaliland for being one region who knows how handle security. Try to read this article if you have the comprehension for it

How Somaliland Combats al-Shabaab – Combating Terrorism Center at West Point

Abstract: Al-Shabaab has struggled and largely failed to establish itself in the independent but unrecognized Republic of Somaliland. There, the government has, with limited means, denied al-Shabaab the operational space it requires through the implementation of a virtuous circle that builds on...

www.ctc.usma.edu

this article is from a well known organization that combats terrorismt that praised Somaliland's intelligence agencies and security measures they implemented after 2008 explosion despite the scarce resources they have it surpassed that of Al Shabaab itself. Have a read

Dude AS doesn't even try to bother SL. Nothing can happen if they don't attempt any attack.
I praise Somaliland all the time when it deserves praise. Certainly SL has good security forces but the lack of attacks isn't just because of that, it's obvious that AS has a strategy of attacking federal member states and mostly ignores Somaliland