Why are Afro-centric Bantus allowed to be racist but other Africans cannot?

[Taintedlove]

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What is their point, though? It seems african societies in general are just racist towards each other. It's only seen as different if you live within the society you're being racist against. Like if a low-paid migrant worker in the gulf having anti arab sentiment will not be seen as bad as an emirati prince talking down on these migrant workers. It's all about who has the power in said society. But comments like in that video are just racist, but no one cares because their's an understanding of how anti-other African societies are. And there would be now outcry if Sudanese ppl said something similar.

 

[TheManWhoIsAlive]

I don't advocate for being racist because I don't believe two wrongs make a right, but to answer your question, anyone can legitimately just say racist things if they don't care about the consequences. Caring about social outcry from the very people you'd want to say racist things to never made sense to me.

 

[Bsblaster]

Museveni is a Hima. The Bahima LOVE dark skin, more than any group I know, and will choose a blue woman over a light skin any day. There's a reason light skin Bahima are rare: they are not desired. He was being complimentary in his own Museveni way. The reason the OP thinks this is racist is because Somalis have issues with colorism, and many posts in this thread are from that complexe.

 

[Waware]

Museveni is a Hima. The Bahima LOVE dark skin, more than any group I know, and will choose a blue woman over a light skin any day. There's a reason light skin Bahima are rare: they are not desired. He was being complimentary in his own Museveni way. The reason the OP thinks this is racist is because Somalis have issues with colorism, and many posts in this thread are from that complexe.

What about tutsi's do they also have colorism issue

 

[Bsblaster]

What about tutsi's do they also have colorism issue

Rwandans used to be like the Hima, up until about 10-15 years ago. They're still not as colorist as most of the world, but they are no longer as immune to it as they used to be. We have bleachers, too, but thankfully the government stepped in and banned any bleaching products, and society generally shames anyone known to bleach, so that helps.

 

[Daisybilaawe]

Museveni is a Hima. The Bahima LOVE dark skin, more than any group I know, and will choose a blue woman over a light skin any day. There's a reason light skin Bahima are rare: they are not desired. He was being complimentary in his own Museveni way. The reason the OP thinks this is racist is because Somalis have issues with colorism, and many posts in this thread are from that complexe.

I don't think Somalis have a Colourist Problem and any display of it is Extremely Recent and holds no weight outside of Mythical Beauty Standards.

Unlike the Rest of Africa and Much of the Global South, there has never been a point in Somali History where an Individual with "lighter skin" held more advantages than a person with darker skin. Bleaching is just a Product of External Influence and Failed State Status.

Somalis are more "Featurist" and focus more on Phenotype than something as Arbitrary as Complexion. and even Featurism we displayed is aimed at other groups rather than domestically.

A Dark-Skin Somali with Narrow/Straight Nose, High Cheekbones, Long-Neck, Curly Hair would be seen as More Attractive and Valued than say a Niger-Congo Bantu Individual who is just "light-skinned" without those features by Somali Societal Standards.

Somali don't buy into the Whole Complexion Game and all of that is an Extremely Recent Phenomenon.

Dark-Skin and Dark-Brown Complexion (Maarin) is even valued in Somaliweyn and that value is expressed through Poems that used to depict it in honour and beauty.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Somali don't buy into the Whole Complexion Game and all of that is an Extremely Recent Phenomenon.

Dark-Skin and Dark-Brown Complexion (Maarin) is even valued in Somaliweyn and that value is expressed through Poems that used to depict it in honour and beauty.

"the Somalis are great lovers of themselves, and of everything belonging to them; they think that there are no other men than themselves and no other world but them, their land and camels; and whenever they see a handsome foreigner they say “he looks like a Somali” and that “it is a great pity that he should not be an Somali”.

“The sophisticated Somali is also very vain about his personal appearance. A man earning good wages will spend most of them on the adornment of his person. Bright turbans, shirts, handkerchiefs, and coats, all of silk, and imposing walking sticks are most popular with the wage-earner of Berbera or Aden; and a Somali dandy will devote hours to combing his hair before a looking glass. Nor are his efforts in vain: for the general effect of all this adornment is most attractive. A Somali with aquiline nose, small lips, large glittering brown eyes, flashing white teeth, stately carriage, and the aristocratic look common to so many of his race,”

We were disgruntely seen as equals because of our intelligence and ego.

 

[Frank Castle]

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[sh-89]

Its an individual problem. Museveni doesnt give a shit about anything. His character is hilarious he cannot be cancelled.

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OMG this man is hilarious because we know where he learned what they do from some crazy pastor.

White people have favouritism, and humour is universal. They don't say shit to Jamaicans who sing about killing Gay people either, they will line up to go there. Jamaican culture is Irish culture you can even hear the accent. They developed a bizarre culture no one else has in the caribbean. They are just as insane as Somalis, Nigerians and the number 1 shit starters of the world the British.

 

[Unicorn]

I don't think Somalis have a Colourist Problem and any display of it is Extremely Recent and holds no weight outside of Mythical Beauty Standards.

Unlike the Rest of Africa and Much of the Global South, there has never been a point in Somali History where an Individual with "lighter skin" held more advantages than a person with darker skin. Bleaching is just a Product of External Influence and Failed State Status.

Somalis are more "Featurist" and focus more on Phenotype than something as Arbitrary as Complexion. and even Featurism we displayed is aimed at other groups rather than domestically.

A Dark-Skin Somali with Narrow/Straight Nose, High Cheekbones, Long-Neck, Curly Hair would be seen as More Attractive and Valued than say a Niger-Congo Bantu Individual who is just "light-skinned" without those features by Somali Societal Standards.

Somali don't buy into the Whole Complexion Game and all of that is an Extremely Recent Phenomenon.

Dark-Skin and Dark-Brown Complexion (Maarin) is even valued in Somaliweyn and that value is expressed through Poems that used to depict it in honour and beauty.

Thts a complete lie. Colorism is huge in somalia. Only dark skin men are spared from it since they dont hold men to same beauty standard. For women if she isnt light she isnt as beautiful thts why theres a whole bleaching thing. Its not new either. Light skins have always been praised before civil war. In tht famous xasan samatar song "markaan da'da 15 jiray" he describes the girls skin color as "Midibka biyo dahab sidoodee"= color like gold. Even with the whole featurist thing ur talking about ive seen so many times a dark skin girl with better features be less praised then an average light skin. Most in the community are color struck.

 

[Daisybilaawe]

Thts a complete lie. Colorism is huge in somalia. Only dark skin men are spared from it since they dont hold men to same beauty standard. For women if she isnt light she isnt as beautiful thts why theres a whole bleaching thing. Its not new either. Light skins have always been praised before civil war. In tht famous xasan samatar song "markan da'da 15 jiray" he describes the girls skin color as "Midibka biyo dahab sidoodee"= color like gold. Even with the whole featurist thing ur talking about ive seen so many times a dark skin girl with better features be less praised then an average light skin. Most in the community are color struck.

Well no it's not a "complete lie"

If you read carefully I did acknowledge it but in the same breath said that it is Extremely Recent Phenomenon also in Somali Society one will not rise just because they're a few shades light like other civilizations.

Also what you're describing solely exists in the Capital and nowhere outside of that.

 

[Unicorn]

If you read carefully I did acknowledge it but in the same breath said that it is Extremely Recent Phenomenon also in Somali Society one will not rise just because they're a few shades light like other civilizations.

Also what you're describing solely exists in the Capital and nowhere outside of that.

Well yes being a light skin women wont get u a higher position just based on color. No this isnt just in xamar. lol other places in somalia have this problem. Kenyan somalis are known for it as well. The only somali group tht doesnt bleach and isnt tht color struck is the western somalis.

 

[Daisybilaawe]

Well yes being a light skin women wont get u a higher position just based on color. No this isnt just in xamar. lol other places in somalia have this problem. Kenyan somalis are known for it as well. The only somali group tht doesnt bleach and isnt tht color struck is the western somalis.

No true at all, Somalia is mostly Baadiyo outside of Urbanized and Modern Cities like Mogadishu, Puntland spots, Hargesia and etc.

Outside of that it's pretty much non-existant with only the Internet amplifying its appearance.

 

[Xoriyo]

No true at all, Somalia is mostly Baadiyo outside of Urbanized and Modern Cities like Mogadishu, Puntland spots, Hargesia and etc.

Outside of that it's pretty much non-existant with only the Internet amplifying its appearance.

Exactly

As if most people back home can afford the ongoing costs of those products or have access to it. Especially when they live in rural areas on limited income and have far more important priorities.

Some of our people have run with this exaggeration to the point I see them placing themselves alongside communities who are far more notorious for this practice. Literally saw some argueing that its worse than it is in Nigeria. It’s like they crave notoriety and will magnify anything negative.

Also, your point about colourism back home is spot on. In many countries in Africa and the global South, your status in society and your whole trajectory in life can depend on your skin tone. From access to education and employment to marriage. Elites in these countries tend to be lighter or mixed. If colourism was as bad as some claim, the cad cads/Barwanis would be politically, economically and socially the most powerful. Our leaders would be married to light skin ajanabi/bi racial women.

None of this is the case and like you said Somalis care far more about your features and how powerful your clan is.