Why are madows claiming every civilization on planet earth?

[Menelik III]

Ahmed gurey was given 2000 ottoman soliders and he had another 10 thousand somali afar and yibir other soliders. It is a know fact that these were african kingdoms not Arabian.

In 1332, the King of Adal was slain in a military campaign aimed at halting Amda Seyon's march toward Zeila.[14] When the last Sultan of Ifat, Sa'ad ad-Din II, was also killed by Dawit I of Ethiopia at the port city of Zeila in 1410, his children escaped to Yemen, before later returning in 1415.[18] In the early 15th century, Adal's capital was moved further inland to the town of Dakkar, where Sabr ad-Din II, the eldest son of Sa'ad ad-Din II, established a new Adal administration after his return from Yemen.[2][19] During this period, Adal emerged as a center of Muslim resistance against the expanding Christian Abyssinian kingdom.[2]Adal would thereafter govern all of the territory formerly ruled by the Ifat Sultanate,[20] as well as the land further east all the way to Cape Guardafui, according to Leo Africanus.[10]

After 1468, a new breed of rulers emerged on the Adal political scene. The dissidents opposed Walashma rule owing to a treaty that Sultan Muhammad ibn Badlay had signed with Emperor Baeda Maryam of Ethiopia, wherein Badlay agreed to submit yearly tribute. This was done to achieve peace in the region, though tribute was never sent. Adal's Emirs, who administered the provinces, interpreted the agreement as a betrayal of their independence and a retreat from the polity's longstanding policy of resistance to Abyssinian incursions. The main leader of this opposition was the Emir of Zeila, the Sultanate's richest province. As such, he was expected to pay the highest share of the annual tribute to be given to the Abyssinian Emperor.[21] Emir Laday Usman subsequently marched to Dakkar and seized power in 1471. However, Usman did not dismiss the Sultan from office, but instead gave him a ceremonial position while retaining the real power for himself. Adal now came under the leadership of a powerful Emir who governed from the palace of a nominal Sultan.[22]

The rulers of adal as most coastal city states were Arab. The original dynasty of ifat were habesha Muslims, but were later replaced by the Arab family.

 

[Bahal]

@Menelik III it's just a painting you weirdo. It's how the painter viewed the scenario. Does that mean King Yagbea-Sion was also not Habesha. Even when a Portuguese traveller visited Ethiopian old churches he wrote that he feared the people back home wouldn't believe him even with everything he wrote about the place.

Btw I'm unable to answer your questions because my PMs have apparently been disabled kkkkkkkk

 

[anonimo]

So you don't think ahmed gurey is somali.

No he was not Somali. He never once refers to himself as Somali in Futuh Al Habash. Bar a few loyal leaders, the Somalis even plotted to abandon the campaign at one point after they had their fill of Booty.

Even though the influence of the Adal Sultanate extended to Somali territories East of Harar and Zaila, the nucleus of it was not Somali and most probably a Habasha Muslim led Sultanate. The Ethio-semitic speaking Harari people evince this. We owed allegiance to him just like the Afars and Harla.

Our position in the Sultanate is comparable to the Germanic tribes that lived in the Rhine frontier as subjects of the Roman Empire.

Knowing how unruly and fiercely independent we Somalis were, we probably disliked the authority of the Ifat/Adal Sultanate. We should have stabbed him in the back, taken Harar for ourselves and expanded to the heavenly Hadiya Bale mountains before the Bloody Oromos. All is fair in love and war.

 

[Menelik III]

No he was not Somali. He never once refers to himself as Somali in Futuh Al Habash. Bar a few loyal leaders, the Somalis even plotted to abandon the campaign at one point after they had their fill of Booty.

Even though the influence of the Adal Sultanate extended to Somali territories East of Harar and Zaila, the nucleus of it was not Somali and most probably a Habasha Muslim led Sultanate. The Ethio-semitic speaking Harari people evince this. We owed allegiance to him just like the Afars and Harla.

Our position in the Sultanate is comparable to the Germanic tribes that lived in the Rhine frontiers as subjects of the Roman Empire.

Knowing how unruly and fiercely independent we Somalis were, we probably disliked the authority of the Ifat/Adal Sultanate. We should have stabbed him in the back, taken Harar for ourselves and expanded to the heavenly Hadiya Bale mountains before the Bloody Oromos. All is fair in love and war.

@oday1kenobi

 

[fox]

Do you want them to be robbed and/or murdered?

Whats with the racism?

 

[Professor]

No he was not Somali. He never once refers to himself as Somali in Futuh Al Habash. Bar a few loyal leaders, the Somalis even plotted to abandon the campaign at one point after they had their fill of Booty.

Even though the influence of the Adal Sultanate extended to Somali territories East of Harar and Zaila, the nucleus of it was not Somali and most probably a Habasha Muslim led Sultanate. The Ethio-semitic speaking Harari people evince this. We owed allegiance to him just like the Afars and Harla.

Our position in the Sultanate is comparable to the Germanic tribes that lived in the Rhine frontier as subjects of the Roman Empire.

Knowing how unruly and fiercely independent we Somalis were, we probably disliked the authority of the Ifat/Adal Sultanate. We should have stabbed him in the back, taken Harar for ourselves and expanded to the heavenly Hadiya Bale mountains before the Bloody Oromos. All is fair in love and war.

No he was not Somali. He never once refers to himself as Somali in Futuh Al Habash. Bar a few loyal leaders, the Somalis even plotted to abandon the campaign at one point after they had their fill of Booty.

Even though the influence of the Adal Sultanate extended to Somali territories East of Harar and Zaila, the nucleus of it was not Somali and most probably a Habasha Muslim led Sultanate. The Ethio-semitic speaking Harari people evince this. We owed allegiance to him just like the Afars and Harla.

Our position in the Sultanate is comparable to the Germanic tribes that lived in the Rhine frontier as subjects of the Roman Empire.

Knowing how unruly and fiercely independent we Somalis were, we probably disliked the authority of the Ifat/Adal Sultanate. We should have stabbed him in the back, taken Harar for ourselves and expanded to the heavenly Hadiya Bale mountains before the Bloody Oromos. All is fair in love and war.

Seens u seem quite knowledgeable on somali history could you answer another question for me. Was mogadishu apart of of sultan of zanzibar and omani sultanate or did somalis rule it for its majority.

 

[anonimo]

@oday1kenobi

Menelik

I do not support your bloody claim that we did not play a vital role in making your ancestors acquire a taste for raw meat so why tag me?

Come on man, you post a 16th century painiting made by a guy who had never vistited the Horn, and claim it is an actual representation of Axmed Gurey, his army and the Christian Habashas. There are other ways of building a credible case that he was not Somali but that ain't it.

 

[Menelik III]

Menelik

I do not support your bloody claim that we did not play a vital role in making your ancestors acquire a taste for raw meat so why tag me?

Come on man, you post a 16th century painiting made by a guy who had never vistited the Horn, and claim it is an actual representation of Axmed Gurey, his army and the Christian Habashas. There are other ways of building a credible case that he was not Somali but that ain't it.

Don't falsify history along with the rest of the "we wuz sultans", kitfo comes from the gurage and predates the wars with adal.

On the picture, I'm not sure who painted it and when, but it was found in a 16th century manuscript meaning it was not the original.

 

[anonimo]

Seens u seem quite knowledgeable on somali history could you answer another question for me. Was mogadishu apart of of sultan of zanzibar and omani sultanate or did somalis rule it for its majority.

I have not read up on the Mogadishu Sultanate for a while so what I say might be prone to error. My understanding is that Mogadishu fell under the influence of the Ajuran Sultanate but was founded by Middle Eastern immigrants, just like other trading posts along the east african coast all the way to Mozambique. The Ajuran Sultanate was allied to the Arabs that partially dominated the eastern seaboard of Africa but maintained its independence. If one was to take into account the fact that the Omanis were a naval power in the Late Middle Ages and thereafter, Somali sultanates such as the Ajuran and those that followed cannot be thought of as their equal.

 

[anonimo]

Don't falsify history along with the rest of the "we wuz sultans", kitfo comes from the gurage and predates the wars with adal.

On the picture, I'm not sure who painted it and when, but it was found in a 16th century manuscript meaning it was not the original.

Apologies for the racist 'joke'.

Seriously man, check out the biography of the man who made that painting and I assure you he never set foot in the Dark Continent.

If you continue using that painting as evidence, get ready to be ridiculed and roasted.

 

[Saeedlfc]

Horta are you green? You're madow aswell so chill out with the self hatred. I've always wondered why Somalis are so arrogant. What have we ever accomplished to be this arrogant?

 

[Someone]

Horta are you green? You're madow aswell so chill out with the self hatred. I've always wondered why Somalis are so arrogant. What have we ever accomplished to be this arrogant?

Madoow is AA. We are africans.

 

[DeathWish]

No he was not Somali. He never once refers to himself as Somali in Futuh Al Habash. Bar a few loyal leaders, the Somalis even plotted to abandon the campaign at one point after they had their fill of Booty.

Even though the influence of the Adal Sultanate extended to Somali territories East of Harar and Zaila, the nucleus of it was not Somali and most probably a Habasha Muslim led Sultanate. The Ethio-semitic speaking Harari people evince this. We owed allegiance to him just like the Afars and Harla.

Our position in the Sultanate is comparable to the Germanic tribes that lived in the Rhine frontier as subjects of the Roman Empire.

Knowing how unruly and fiercely independent we Somalis were, we probably disliked the authority of the Ifat/Adal Sultanate. We should have stabbed him in the back, taken Harar for ourselves and expanded to the heavenly Hadiya Bale mountains before the Bloody Oromos. All is fair in love and war.

Ahmed Gurey is 100% Somali. In the original Arabic documents about him, they say he is either Marexaan or Isaaq. When he died, he gave his wife to a Marexaan official. If you know the culture, you would know that when a man dies his brother takes his wife. This is why some scholars believe he is Marexaan. An old document written by an Arab say he is from the Isaaq clan (I believe he is Isaaq, it makes more sense). Somalis completely dominated the Horn in the middle ages from North (Adal) to the South (Ajuran).

@Canuck is well versed in this topic.

Let's say the ancient Egyptians were invaded and mixed with Arabs, Greeks...their original DNA is still there. People don't go extinct, it's just their culture and language gets replaced (superimposed).

The Egyptians today are a mix of many different ethnicities. They have equal claim to Greece, Rome, Istanbul, Tehran, Madinah as they do to Egypt. The Egyptians barely controlled their country for 1500+ years (from 500 BC--1900 AD). Within 400 years, the Native American population has been decimated to the point that a 100% Native American is rare.

the madows are saying they are native to America and not Africa.

There is ample evidence of Africans in America before the arrival of Columbus (Europeans). In Columbus's diary, he writes about how the Native Americans told his men about a dark people that have been trading with the people in the South. The Natives gave him some of the arrows that they received from the Africans. Columbus sends the arrows back to Spain for examination and the Spanish people said that it truly was from Africa. There are 12 eye witnesses and all of them are of European descent.
http://thehouseofsankofa.com/books/Ivan-Van-Sertima-They-Came-Before-Columbu.pdf


Here is some more proof that Africans were already in the Americas in the 1400s.
https://www.livescience.com/3423-africans-columbus-world.html
Obviously, these European scientists will lie and say without evidence that these Africans came with Columbus for some reason.

 

[Von]

Can always trust @Menelik III to derail a thread

 

[Canuck]

Ahmed Gurey is 100% Somali. In the original Arabic documents about him, they say he is either Marexaan or Isaaq. When he died, he gave his wife to a Marexaan official. If you know the culture, you would know that when a man dies his brother takes his wife. This is why some scholars believe he is Marexaan. An old document written by an Arab say he is from the Isaaq clan (I believe he is Isaaq, it makes more sense). Somalis completely dominated the Horn in the middle ages from North (Adal) to the South (Ajuran).

@Canuck is well versed in this topic.


The Egyptians today are a mix of many different ethnicities. They have equal claim to Greece, Rome, Istanbul, Tehran, Madinah as they do to Egypt. The Egyptians barely controlled their country for 1500+ years (from 500 BC--1900 AD). Within 400 years, the Native American population has been decimated to the point that a 100% Native American is rare.


There is ample evidence of Africans in America before the arrival of Columbus (Europeans). In Columbus's diary, he writes about how the Native Americans told his men about a dark people that have been trading with the people in the South. The Natives gave him some of the arrows that they received from the Africans. Columbus sends the arrows back to Spain for examination and the Spanish people said that it truly was from Africa. There are 12 eye witnesses and all of them are of European descent.
http://thehouseofsankofa.com/books/Ivan-Van-Sertima-They-Came-Before-Columbu.pdf


Here is some more proof that Africans were already in the Americas in the 1400s.
https://www.livescience.com/3423-africans-columbus-world.html
Obviously, these European scientists will lie and say without evidence that these Africans came with Columbus for some reason.

Ahmed furry was Somali and after death his throne went to his nephew from the marehan clan. However at that time, the name Somalia didn't appear or use. Somalia was referred to land of Berber and other times land of zaylac to differentiate them from habashi. Give it rest, he was Somali man.

 

[TheAnswer]

Even Umar Johnson was claiming that Buddha was black

 

[Saeedlfc]

Madoow is AA. We are africans.

Madow means black. Africans, African American doesnt matter. You're telling me Nigerians and Jamiacans etc arent called Madow?

 

[Canuck]

Muslim African discovered America during king Musa Keita era. Oldest mosque is in Cuba per Columbus time and Turkish government is restoring it.

 

[Someone]

Madow means black. Africans, African American doesnt matter. You're telling me Nigerians and Jamiacans etc arent called Madow?

To the people of this site madoow means any black non-african.

 

[Canuck]

AA have right to claim Moors in Spain since the moors went with Colombus as sailors. Also, they can claim king Musa Keita and great Mali civilization since the slaves were from west Africa.